Modability of the resource system

[Tomice]

Hi!
Has anyone found a way to make aluminum work like iron (lump sum instead of per turn)?
Or found a way to create dual requirements (e.g. knights needing 20 iron AND 1 horse/turn)?

It seems that you can only change which resource a unit uses, but not to require two of them.
It also seems hardcoded which resource is used per turn and which only during construction.

Did anyone have more success?

 

[Laurana Kanan]

It seems that you can only change which resource a unit uses, but not to require two of them.

Not possible because even with the new update there is still only a single StrategicResource column in the Units table.

 

[Tomice]

A pity
Have you found out if it's hardcoded which strategic resource is considered a "fuel" (per turn usage)?

 

[Laurana Kanan]

Now that I think about it you could technically have two strategic resources. One when the unit is built as defined in the StrategicResource column in the Units table, and a different one in the Units_XP2 table defined in the ResourceMaintenanceType column.

 

[CyberChrist]

It would appear that the "ResourceCost" value from the new "Units_XP2" table is in fact tied to the "StrategicResource" define in the old "Units" table. So you can have a one resource type/amount for production and another type/amount for maintenance.

 

[Tomice]

Unintuitive, but very interesting!!! Thank you both!

I'm glad this seems modable after all. I didn't think that the type of resource consumption is determined on a per-unit basis.

Gotta try some stuff soon - They seem to have implemented a system where the importance of resources is determined by era. (iron/horses until medieval, niter during renaissance, oil for most of the lategame, aluminum for planes and helicopters.
I'd rather like to see some ongoing importance especially for iron - it's not historic that having sufficient metal was a non-issue in later eras...

 

[JNR13]

Iron could see use as steel. Railroads for example use it, together with coal. However, this doesn't work for units - as already established, only one resource type can be used for construction. But I think all late game units should basically require either iron or aluminum for construction, and niter, oil, or uranium for fuel.

Maybe a "Steel Mill" building could consume iron and coal per turn and turn it into a new Steel resource, but I doubt the AI would be able to account for this properly and most likely just end up with a constant lack of steel, massively hindering their military industry.

 

[CyberChrist]

Maybe a "Steel Mill" building could consume iron and coal per turn and turn it into a new Steel resource, but I doubt the AI would be able to account for this properly and most likely just end up with a constant lack of steel, massively hindering their military industry.

So far I haven't spotted any easy way to make buildings produce resources (can it be done with Modifiers?), but it should be possible to make a building like the Steel Mill (with a iron+coal buildcost and/or maintenance) be a requirement to build certain units.

 

[criZp]

So far I haven't spotted any easy way to make buildings produce resources (can it be done with Modifiers?), but it should be possible to make a building like the Steel Mill (with a iron+coal buildcost and/or maintenance) be a requirement to build certain units.

there's a future era wildcard that makes spaceports produce 3 aluminium and 3 power

 

[CyberChrist]

there's a future era wildcard that makes spaceports produce 3 aluminium and 3 power

Cool! Yeah, I see that now - the modifer adds resource generation for a specified amount of a specified resource to any city that meets the requirment of having a specified building. This method should work just nicely!