Modmods Requests Thread
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Supercheese
Zeppelin Commander
Ok, I think I detect sarcasm there, but since this is the Internet and we lack the wonderful communication device known as "tone of voice", I could be wrong. (I suppose italics are a sort of tone-of-voice device for text, but it is still rather ambiguous compared to face-to-face auditory input.)
Anyway, I understand the sarcasm (should it exist), as per my post above... but my point is still valid, as if the max trade route XML had not been changed, the problem would have indeed existed.
Afforess
The White Wizard
There. I made it painfully obvious in case someone else asks.
True, but of all the problem's I've encountered in modding, this falls right in between batch-renaming files and creating new folders; difficulty-wise.
Supercheese
Zeppelin Commander
You are quite correct, sir.
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The discussion of llamas has reminded me of The Llama Song...
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Afforess
The White Wizard
No. Bad. Evil. I heard that song years ago, but it still sucks, even today.
The Olympics were from the classical era Greece, besides, many arenas were/are prepared for a variety of different games, not just a single arena for only one purpose. However I have a different idea for the Olympics the Olympic Stadium can be a world wonder until a later tech (maybe mass media) then it will become obsolete however it will be handled like the 'world circus' that Afforess has goin on in his mods. only +5for the city(over crowded) and +5
for the extra revenue.
I've got the tech's 100% done, but I need the building's a little more detailed. An obsolete tech and the building's effect would be nice. Also, I was thinking that some of the stadiums should give a nice big +
bonus but cost 
since sports costs the economy money.
Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
1. Because its +1 for llama and +1 for alpaca. The farm produces both species.
2. Hmm. That's a good idea. But what about alpine reindeer that live high up in the snowy mountains that just happen to be on the equator like Mount Kilimanjaro?
3. I would say for camels to be limited to the equator but there are Bacterium Camels that live in the cold tundra of the Gobi Desert. So climate would not apply to them.
4. I am not sure what would be obsolete for animals. I mean people still breed dogs and cats and horses. I would expect people would still be breeding them in the future.
Afforess
The White Wizard
Makes sense, kinda.
But these aren't resources, they are building to be built in a city. And Building on Mountains isn't unlocked until algebra, so I'm not too worried about it.
You don't need to limit all of them. I just thought some general limits would add some flavor, and make different areas of the world more diverse.
Falconry is obsolete today. That's the one I had in mind, with obsoletes.
Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
Ok here i a list of the obsolete techs. Cloning Seems to fit most of them except a select few.
Falcony - Telegraph
Donkey Farm - Cloning
Camel Farm - Cloning
Llama and Alpaca Farm - Cloning
Yak Farm - Cloning
Reindeer Farm - Cloning
Oxen Farm - Cloning
Goat Farm - Cloning
Cat Breeder - Cloning
Chicken Coop - Cloning
Homing Pigeon Coop - Telegraph
Parrot Aviary - Cloning
Turkey Farm - Cloning
Duck and Goose Farm - Cloning
Rabbit Hutch - Cloning
Rodent Breeder - Cloning
Guinea Pig Farm - Cloning
Koi Pond - Cloning
Bear Trainer - Motion Pictures
Snake Charmer - Motion Pictures
Dog Breeder - Cloning
Falcony - Telegraph
Donkey Farm - Cloning
Camel Farm - Cloning
Llama and Alpaca Farm - Cloning
Yak Farm - Cloning
Reindeer Farm - Cloning
Oxen Farm - Cloning
Goat Farm - Cloning
Cat Breeder - Cloning
Chicken Coop - Cloning
Homing Pigeon Coop - Telegraph
Parrot Aviary - Cloning
Turkey Farm - Cloning
Duck and Goose Farm - Cloning
Rabbit Hutch - Cloning
Rodent Breeder - Cloning
Guinea Pig Farm - Cloning
Koi Pond - Cloning
Bear Trainer - Motion Pictures
Snake Charmer - Motion Pictures
Dog Breeder - Cloning
Afforess
The White Wizard
Thanks. Now, could you add some more info to that sports modmod idea we got sidetracked on, as a result of the SimCity Societies discussion?
Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
Ok some additional Animal Stuff ...
Pet Shop
Cost: 500
Happiness: +1
Culture: +1
Commerce: +1
Requires: Biology
Obsolete: Cloning
Special Abilities
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Cloned Pet Store
Cost: 1000
Happiness: +2
Culture: +2
Commerce: +2
Requires: Cloning Laboratory
Special Abilities
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Monkey Breeder
Cost: 500
Happiness: +1
Culture: +1
Commerce: +1
Requires: Animal Husbandry, Music
Obsolete: Cloning
Special Abilities
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Also the dog should probably add.
And Rodent Breeder ...
Pet Shop
Cost: 500
Happiness: +1
Culture: +1
Commerce: +1
Requires: Biology
Obsolete: Cloning
Special Abilities
- +1 with Fish Resource.
- Upgrades to Clone Pet Store.
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Cloned Pet Store
Cost: 1000
Happiness: +2
Culture: +2
Commerce: +2
Requires: Cloning Laboratory
Special Abilities
- +1 with Fish Resource.
- Upgrades Pet Shop.
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Monkey Breeder
Cost: 500
Happiness: +1
Culture: +1
Commerce: +1
Requires: Animal Husbandry, Music
Obsolete: Cloning
Special Abilities
- +5%
with Hinduism (Monkey God) - +5% with Biology (Organ Grinder Monkey, Circus Monkey and Zoo Monkey)
- +5%
with Medicine (Assistant Monkey) - +5%
to Laboratory (Lab Monkey) - +5% Production Speed for Apollo Program (Space Monkey)
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Also the dog should probably add.
- +5% with Medicine (Seeing Eye Dog / Assistant Dog)
And Rodent Breeder ...
- +5% with Hinduism (Rat God)
Afforess
The White Wizard
Ok some additional Animal Stuff ...
Pet Shop
Cost: 500
Happiness: +1
Culture: +1
Commerce: +1
Requires: Biology
Obsolete: Cloning
Special Abilities
- +1
- Upgrades to Clone Pet Store.
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Cloned Pet Store
Cost: 1000
Happiness: +2
Culture: +2
Commerce: +2
Requires: Cloning Laboratory
Special Abilities
- +1
- Upgrades Pet Shop.
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Monkey Breeder
Cost: 500
Happiness: +1
Culture: +1
Commerce: +1
Requires: Animal Husbandry, Music
Obsolete: Cloning
Special Abilities
- +5%
- +5%
- +5%
- +5%
- +5% Production Speed for Apollo Program (Space Monkey)
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Also the dog should probably add.
- +5%
And Rodent Breeder ...
- +5%
I can't give a % Health with a tech (How do you give a percent Health anyways. Percent of what, base health?), but I can give whole numbers of health at a tech. (So +1
with Medicine)Otherwise, looks fine.
Edit:
I would rename the Clone Pet shop to "RePet"
Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
I've got the tech's 100% done, but I need the building's a little more detailed. An obsolete tech and the building's effect would be nice. Also, I was thinking that some of the stadiums should give a nice big +
Ok happiness for money sounds like a good balance.
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Ok for the obsolete sports list.
Gladiator School - Realism
Wrestling School - Realism
Aikido Dojo - Modern Sports
Judo Dojo - Modern Sports
Jujutsu Dojo - Modern Sports
Kendo Dojo - Modern Sports
Sumo Wrestling Arena - Modern Sports
Jousting Arena - Vertical Flight
Fencing Academy - Modern Sports
Cricket Field - Space Colonies
Rugby Field - Space Colonies
Polo Field - Space Colonies
Basketball Court - Space Colonies
Croquet - Space Colonies
Football Field - Space Colonies
Golf Course - Space Colonies
Hockey Rink - Space Colonies
Softball Field - Space Colonies
Soccer Field - Space Colonies
Tennis Courts - Space Colonies
X-Games - Space Colonies
Major League Stadium - Space Colonies
Minor League Stadium - Space Colonies
Racetrack - Space Colonies
Battlebot Arena - NEVER
Note that the more familiar sports are obsoleted by Space Colonies because of the Zero G Arena building that's already in the game. I also think there should be ...
- Spaceship Racing (Req Motor Sports, Orbital Flight)
This would never become obsolete and would be a good replacement for the racetrack.
Afforess
The White Wizard
Seems good. I would name the new tech Interstellar Racing, but that's just me.
Now, I'm working on these, but I'm stuck here. Filling Factory doesn't work, and Garrison doesn't seem right. Also, is Recruitment Center a new building? And, I think that the units under Filling Factory should go to the Recruitment center too.
Also, I'm thinking that the DryDock and Factory give too many units. I support the creation of a "Manufacturing Plant" or "Heavy Factory." Also, some sort of Seabase or Sea Unit factory (for lack of a better name) is needed.
One last thing. I'm extremely backlogged on requests here. It may take me a while to get to them.
Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
I can't give a % Health with a tech (How do you give a percent Health anyways. Percent of what, base health?), but I can give whole numbers of health at a tech. (So +1
Otherwise, looks fine.
Edit:
I would rename the Clone Pet shop to "RePet"
Oops! Yeah I ment +1 Health.
"RePet"? Ha! That's funny.
I like that name better! Also we should have some sort of sports for like boats and airplanes. I am just not sure what to call them yet or if they should have like "Boat Sports" or "Water Sports" any ideas?
Afforess
The White Wizard
See, I do other thing than mod. I watch movies too. (Comment directed at Os79)
Wave Racing?
Supercheese
Zeppelin Commander
For air racing, one could have the national wonder "National Air Races".
As per:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Air_Races
And:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_Air_Race_World_Championship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reno_Air_Races
As per:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Air_Races
And:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_Air_Race_World_Championship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reno_Air_Races
Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
1. Ack I don't know. What about an "Army Base"?
2. What about an "Auto Factory" for like to motor cycles, jeeps and stuff and then a "Tank Factory" for all the tanks?
3. How about "Naval Base" or "Naval Yard"?
I am happy to help if there are things i can help with.
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Is could you ever post the ones you have done so I can test them? I have no idea if they will make the game unbalanced or not.
Dancing Hoskuld
Deity
Because RoM is the only mod which diverges from the resource is either health or luxury or strategic. That is what the AI knows and uses to decide what it will pay for stuff. So in RoM incense is strategic but not needed for units or buildings therefore it has no value. Whereas in other mods it is a luxury so has value.
But lets face it the Civ trade system just does not work with RoM and would require a complete rewrite to fix
Afforess
The White Wizard
Because RoM is the only mod which diverges from the resource is either health or luxury or strategic. That is what the AI knows and uses to decide what it will pay for stuff. So in RoM incense is strategic but not needed for units or buildings therefore it has no value. Whereas in other mods it is a luxury so has value.
But lets face it the Civ trade system just does not work with RoM and would require a complete rewrite to fix
The trade system isn't as bad as you say it is. Just the AI logic of it. Here, look. Even if you don't know C++, the code is written fairly logically. We just need add a part for considering commerce effects of the resources. This is the AI code for Resources:
Spoiler :
JaeChunDaeSung
Prince
I may have found a way to potentially add Shinto to available religions.
Aaranda originally made it available after researching Feudalism, but historically, the religion has been synonymous with Japanese civilization from the beginning of its written history. So it would involve a new, but early age technology, along the lines of Dualism providing Zoroastrianism.
If this were to be done, I would also add an early age structure for this tech, just so that researching this wouldn't be such a dead end like Dualism (only providing a religion and the Hanging Gardens).
Shamanism (Requires Priesthood) - First to discover founds Shinto, can build Shaman's Hut
Shaman's Hut - Provides +1, +1 , +1 with Folklore/Prophets, Obsolete with Theology or Divine Right? (Religions based around local belief and practices often fell on the wayside when state leadership or organized religion advanced well enough to put these practices down)
Also personally, I wasn't too fond of Monotheism being the immediate prerequisite with Meditation (for founding Judaism before Buddhism), even though I'm sure its for the sake of balancing due to the Church Welfare civic, I thought, "What if there were an alternate way to reach it?" So in this case, what if...
Priesthood > Shamanism + Writing = Meditation
Aaranda originally made it available after researching Feudalism, but historically, the religion has been synonymous with Japanese civilization from the beginning of its written history. So it would involve a new, but early age technology, along the lines of Dualism providing Zoroastrianism.
If this were to be done, I would also add an early age structure for this tech, just so that researching this wouldn't be such a dead end like Dualism (only providing a religion and the Hanging Gardens).
Shamanism (Requires Priesthood) - First to discover founds Shinto, can build Shaman's Hut
Shaman's Hut - Provides +1
, +1 , +1 with Folklore/Prophets, Obsolete with Theology or Divine Right? (Religions based around local belief and practices often fell on the wayside when state leadership or organized religion advanced well enough to put these practices down)Also personally, I wasn't too fond of Monotheism being the immediate prerequisite with Meditation (for founding Judaism before Buddhism), even though I'm sure its for the sake of balancing due to the Church Welfare civic, I thought, "What if there were an alternate way to reach it?" So in this case, what if...
Priesthood > Shamanism + Writing = Meditation
