Mongolian Unit Line Workshop

[Sandris]

Reference images with descriptions/argumentation for completing Mongolian unit line are needed. Historical accuracy is preferred.

Proposed historical period lines (could be changed during working process):

1. ... (Nomads)
2. ...
3. Huns
4. ...
5. ...
6. Golden Horde
7. ...
8. ...
9. ...

 

[ShiroKobbure]

1. Nomads Chun?
2. Xiongnu (200bc-460ad)

Spoiler :

3. Xianbei - Northern Toba Wei (93-200s - 386–535)

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3b. Rouran Khaganate (330–555)

Spoiler :

4. Göktürks (552–747)

Spoiler :

7. Uighur Empire (742–848)

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6. Khitan/Liao (915–1125)

Spoiler :

7. Mongol Empire (1206–1368)

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8. Northern Yuan (1368–1635)

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9. Manchuria/Qing Dynasty (1644–1912)

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nice to see you back,
i'll start posting resources.

 

[ShiroKobbure]

Xiongnu
http://a4.att.hudong.com/25/95/01300000178518124727954318357.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o95/tsubame1/hsiung-nusword.jpg
http://a2.att.hudong.com/14/70/01300000307427124705708229538.jpg
http://www.thaisamkok.com/images/bg/armor_han_chariot-small.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1271/xiongnubymilitaryhistorzq0.jpg
http://img150.echo.cx/img150/9058/heykel01a3sc.jpg

Xianbei
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3296/warringstatesoz4.jpg
http://img250.echo.cx/img250/7350/nanbeichao5qg.jpg
http://www.chnmus.net/admin/upload_file/img/2007-12/1196834036486.JPG
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:aNyvSKC1vRLbMM:http://img.zol.com.cn/group/134/a1337129.jpg&t=1
http://img.blog.163.com/photo/luYDkisryPwcOdxao6btVg==/5112992951949669370.jpg
http://liaoning.nen.com.cn/78002653409312768/20070228/805058.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8550/xianbeiorlatexiongnuod5.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5267/attilaandnomadhordes03czq4.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...8.jpg/530px-Cernuschi_Museum_20060812_128.jpg

Göktürks
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2118/turksql4.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9633/gorelik6us6in1.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7074/gorelik5hd9zi1.jpg

Uighur Empire
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/Uighur_Prince.jpg
http://historyfacebook.wikispaces.com/file/view/uighur.jpg/30559256/uighur.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9628/kyrgyzwarriorxixiithcvx4.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6394/kyrgyzwarriorarmingforbhn1.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1808/kyrgyzlightcavalryviixtjx8.jpg
http://www.opa.kg/uploads/posts/2009-07/1247742635_kirgiz-big.jpg

Khitan/Liao
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3974/543311245jb2.jpg
http://images.ummunaisha.multiply.c...14-local.jpg?et=mQY+4Vrj,vw8fFveRO9Phw&nmid=0
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1892/whwqy0414019liaokhitanpj8.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/4007/xixiaamorit6.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4214/karakhitaief3.jpg (#3)
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/6292/heavycavpb7.png
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3585/thekidanheadquartersxitwo4.png



more later

 

[ShiroKobbure]

Mongol Empire
Light Horse Archer
http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae124/damnuandurbucket/italeri-6020-golden-horde.jpg

Mid Heavy Horse Archer
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4153/mongolnv1.jpg

Heavy Mounted Maceman
http://medieval2.heavengames.com/m2tw/history/historical_battles_folder/ain_jalut/mongols8.jpg
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/at...9806d1268868868-mongol-empire-kypchak1tm6.jpg

Mid Heavy Horseman
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/at...s/19053d1266941986-mongol-empire-036jyfh5.jpg
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/at...s/19051d1266941860-mongol-empire-bar17zc6.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_KezhQ6waZT0/R1ITUqtr9DI/AAAAAAAABLA/1bD1YFdDzXE/s1600-R/monrus1.jpg
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=10182&d=1206017594
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/743/036jyfh5cn4.jpg

Western Allies
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8702/turcomongolheavycavalryin1.png

Swordsman
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p89/thrashing_mad/ZdobyciePlock.jpg
http://www.figuren-modellbau.de/stammeskrieger/dba-army-159b-mongols-tamerlane.jpg

Spearman
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41873000/jpg/_41873420_ap_phones416.jpg
http://bbsimg.ali213.net/attachments/day_070212/2_tG5IdQghpddf.jpg

Spearman II
http://www.historyofjihad.org/mongol9.jpg

Heavy Archer
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/at...0d1266942629-mongol-empire-crusaders11gj6.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7843/097kqpb8wy6.jpg

Heavy Swordsman
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9642/nfognlgt0.jpg

Transoxiana's Turkomanic Ally
http://usera.imagecave.com/anthoniusii/turcomannoble.jpg

Korean Axillary
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8008/kamakuraperiod1185ad133.jpg
http://www.totalwar.org/hosted/TotalwarShogun/mongol/kskirmisher.jpg
http://www.totalwar.org/hosted/TotalwarShogun/mongol/kguardsman.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/530/mongolparadeqg3ka6.jpg
--Korean Axillary, Thunder Bombers Thrower--
http://www.totalwar.org/hosted/TotalwarShogun/mongol/thunder.jpg

Chinese Calvary
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1755/medievalchinesearmies12qj7.jpg

SE Asian Axillary
http://img.qihoo.com/qhimg/bbs_img/0_0/1/336/289/ea3d1d.jpg

Tibetan Axillary
http://www.chrome.hu/ornamentum/public/forum/forum/pictures/pict_1511.jpg

Random
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/at...0d1266942629-mongol-empire-crusaders11gj6.jpg
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/at...7d1266941986-mongol-empire-crusaders10kt8.jpg
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/at...19061d1266942629-mongol-empire-mon66oaqw9.jpg
http://home-4.worldonline.nl/~t543201/web-mongol/mongol-images-photos/mongol-armour2.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2434/crusaders10kt8ni7.jpg

 

[ShiroKobbure]

Northern Yuan
Musketman
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j116/lws0624/11228920351299921997730524381313034.jpg
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j116/lws0624/12122892781420026310362884630340199.jpg

Horseman
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9004/mongols04nm3dw1.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/440/mongols01gm7nd3.jpg

Light Horseman
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8827/medievalchinesearmies12vx3.jpg

Infantry
http://www.doncroner.net/uploaded_images/amursana.2-748920.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8948/yuanvg2ie2.jpg
http://img250.echo.cx/img250/1130/yuanarmor3yy.jpg
http://img262.echo.cx/img262/3557/w0200311043680782844362gk.jpg
http://chinese-armour.freewebspace.com/images/arm11a.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6069/for057plated25944720stdxc1.jpg

 

[ShiroKobbure]

Manchu (Qing)...(Early Qing)
Swordsman
http://www.thomaschen.freewebspace.com/images/newstuffqqq.jpg

Manchu Spearman
http://www.megaloceros.net/Pencils/Qing_soldier.jpg
http://image2.club.sohu.com/pic/e5/57/7aa2a0271ffac0e89fe61f45851b57e5.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/76/173443531_7c8f0cde3f_z.jpg?zz=1
http://chinese-armour.freewebspace.com/images/arm9.jpg
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/3416/taipingrebellion1851660vm0.jpg

Light Archer
http://chineseswords2.freewebspace.com/images/j7fb_cemcukjab2.jpg
http://chineseswords2.freewebspace.com/cgi-bin/i/images/zhan2.jpg

Archer
http://chineseswords2.freewebspace.com/images/general1xxx.jpg
http://chineseswords2.freewebspace.com/images/kang.jpg

Musketman
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...15px-ChineseSoldierByWilliamAlexander1793.JPG
http://www.fymil.com/bbs/attachments/Mon_0702/26_57567_ba6951e4129d901.jpg

Cavalry
http://warandgame.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/hhqv_qianlong4.jpg
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/3416/taipingrebellion1851660vm0.jpg

 

[Sandris]

Shiro, thank you very much.

Soon, I`ll start to make sketches.

 

[ShiroKobbure]

Nomads
Bronze Age
http://img250.echo.cx/img250/9296/shang9qb.png
http://img250.echo.cx/img250/2944/westernzhou7rg.png
http://chinaahistoryofwarfare.devhub.com/img/upload/tyjtyjjytjyutytju.jpg

 

[Goldflash]

HOLY CRAP SANDRIS IS BACK. Happy day!

 

[T-mun]

Yay! I wish I had something more to say or post about the Mongols

 

[96nn]

Hmmm... I must say, Sandris... Manchu as a Tungus phylum nation, was neither nomad nor a nation lived in mongolia. Their ancestors were Joutchens, a forest-hunter nation, who had crushed the Empire of Khitan and built the Jin(means "Gold", not the Jin in 3th ~ 5th century) dynasty in Beijing in 12th century, and were destroyed by Mongols in 13th century.

 

[ShiroKobbure]

Hmmm... I must say, Sandris... Manchu as a Tungus phylum nation, was neither nomad nor a nation lived in mongolia. Their ancestors were Joutchens, a forest-hunter nation, who had crushed the Empire of Khitan and built the Jin(means "Gold", not the Jin in 3th ~ 5th century) dynasty in Beijing in 12th century, and were destroyed by Mongols in 13th century.

I suggested the Manchu or Qing Dynasty for the 9th era of the Mongol line because of this:

The Manchu are not ethnically Mongolian, but it is the same as using Spain, New Spain, Mexico for the Aztecs.

 

[96nn]

I see.

But I think the Joutchen Jin(Gold) dynasty should be included since their posterity in this line. They have conquered the Inner Mongolia, and made all Mongol tribes submitted to them.


These are the army of Jin dynasty.