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Flamand
The Visible Elder!
And now you're not... 
Sorry about that...
Sorry about that...
Assuming that aaglo gives his ok (as he made the city walls) I'd like to enter my Orc Cities.
"I made them, and all that jazz."
"I made them, and all that jazz."
aaglo
Furioso!
I'm cool with it. 
Flamand
The Visible Elder!
Oaths really are not what they used to be anymore...mrtn said:
Stormrage
Ever Present Taskmaster
Dammit varwnos, stop nagging!
Stormrage
Ever Present Taskmaster
Just give it a rest man.
Yorgos
imagine...
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This man knows how to insult with humor, while using very polite language at the same time. That's a rare ability, and I like it even if I'm their target (well, usually it's the opposite... I'm much more polite in this forum than my in real life)
Oh, Flamand, I recently saw V for Venteta and now I understand and respect your avatar and signature. Nice movie, especially for an adventure. I even liked it's content (obviously, just check my avatar and signature)
Now, where are the new submissions? We only had one during the last week. Varwnos, will you finish one of your projects in time to join the unit completion?
Oh, Flamand, I recently saw V for Venteta and now I understand and respect your avatar and signature. Nice movie, especially for an adventure. I even liked it's content (obviously, just check my avatar and signature)
Now, where are the new submissions? We only had one during the last week. Varwnos, will you finish one of your projects in time to join the unit completion?
Flamand
The Visible Elder!
Well in all fairness, he was right this time...Stormrage said:
Mrtn should have mentioned the conversion. It is included now...I also liked the quote that the governments should fear their people instead of the other way around. The way stuff is going these days in the worldI think more people should try to get the message of this movie and listen to "Imagine" all day...Yorgos said:
In my opinion my cities are not conversions. Conversions is what you get if you shrink something to the right civ 3 size, maybe make a change or two, and call it a day. Like my recent dwarf buildings.
However, these cities are compiled by loads of different graphics, from different places. Just like, for example, RedAlert's cities were made. If I had found these cities as a whole somewhere, that would be a conversion, this isn't.
You can't find any cities looking like this anywhere else.
So, I protest that they're called Spellforce conversions, that's an insult mostly to aaglo, but also to Kohan 2 and to me.
However, these cities are compiled by loads of different graphics, from different places. Just like, for example, RedAlert's cities were made. If I had found these cities as a whole somewhere, that would be a conversion, this isn't.
You can't find any cities looking like this anywhere else.
So, I protest that they're called Spellforce conversions, that's an insult mostly to aaglo, but also to Kohan 2 and to me.
Flamand
The Visible Elder!
I'm sorry, but I thought Spellforce and Kohan 2 were game I never heard about...mrtn said:
I get sick of this "conversion or not" discussion to a point where I can't follow it anymore... Ofcourse I change it back...So they are not conversions because they arent converted from one game, but from two. Ok. And also they are changed in size. So the rule should be:
"Files which are converted and also changed in size with the buildings placed in groups not found in the original file, are to be seen as non-converted and analogous to newly created files".
It is a good thing i am familiar with kafka's literature. Examining the obscure, never becomming fully known and apparently always morphing, law, is a skill needed in taking part in this contest
"Files which are converted and also changed in size with the buildings placed in groups not found in the original file, are to be seen as non-converted and analogous to newly created files".
It is a good thing i am familiar with kafka's literature. Examining the obscure, never becomming fully known and apparently always morphing, law, is a skill needed in taking part in this contest
Stormrage
Ever Present Taskmaster
The only thing needed to take part in this conest is to make something that makes you happy and share it with the community... 
Flamand
The Visible Elder!
Good thing you're not in charge of the rules here. As a Kafka fan, you would probably make a 3 page set of rules, with 9 pages of addenda, post scriptums, footnotes, etc to be read and signed in triplicate after which it needs to be send to the proper ministry for legalization, where after a small fee, a completely random but considerate collection of stamps is put on the forms, which, if you're lucky, can help you to enter something for the July 2010 competition.
God only knows what the winner of the competition would need to do to claim his prize...
God only knows what the winner of the competition would need to do to claim his prize...
They are games you never heard about.Flamand said:
But aaglo is not a game. And I still stand by the point that they're not a conversion. Unless (general-) you want to change the definition of that word to include 90% of the cities and units posted here, including most of varwnos' stuff, as he changes his old buildings (converting, geddit?), and adds some new for his cities.Cities based on civ 3 gfx is as much conversions as mine are.
But I'm sure that no one wants 4 pages of rules. Or?
I am sick of it too, but I'm even more sick of the fact that whenever I (or Ogedei_the_Mad, or aaglo, or...) post a file in this thread, varwnos tries to find a loophole to get me/him disqualified.Flamand said:
This rule-set is enough for me.Stormrage said:
Flamand
The Visible Elder!
Luckily I am judge, jury and executioner in this competition... When I say it is in, it is... 
When I say it is in, it is...
Stormrage
Ever Present Taskmaster
Flamand said:
Wow.. You`re like that ..that Judge Fred guy!
mischief:
)The trouble with our *contest* laws
The thread where these arguments took place was the monthy PCX contest thread. As of late there have been various discussions, perhaps not very prolonged, however at any rate even so having given at least in some respects quite evident impressions of the existense of division in views about the clarity or even the general accurateness of the old rules of the PCX contest. The discussion started by Varwnos, or rather after a brief note by Yorgos, one of the observers of the competition, with Varwnos being a regular contributor in them. Yorgos had mentioned that, in his view, copy/pasted, converted, or otherwise modified graphics should not be taking part in opossition to entirely original graphics. His comment probably was not meant as one which would trigger a discussion, and it is agreed that one was forced to take place only after Varwnos picked it up and noted in a lot less uncertain terms that his opinnion was that definately original work should not be placed next to modified unoriginal one. The discussion which started in earnest following that post, however, resulted in nothing less of a very straight-forward denial of the notion that modified graphics should not be allowed, as was stated by the rule-maker of the contest, Flamand. Varwnos decided to back from his request, and so the first instance of the talk regarding the status of the modified graphics in the competition was brought to an end.
However, after some more posts, the matter was again revived, this time though not as an issue of whether or not unoriginal graphics should be allowed entry to the competition, but whether a specific such graphic should be allowed to participate without being labelled as a modified one. The owner of that graphic, mrtn, who had before that taken part in the first discussion as well, supporting the inclusion of modified graphics, now argued that his graphic should not carry the title of modified or copy/pasted, or converted, whereas very briefly Flamand had agreed to label it as such. Mrtn's argument was that his graphic is not a converted one, since it consisted of graphics from two different games, which were not to be found in the arrangement particular to them in his own creation. He also mentioned the fact that another creator, aaglo, had provided a part of them.
Mrtn's argument was accepted as true by Flamand, and thus the labeling of his file was taken away again, at which point Varwnos remarked again about the state of the laws of the competition.
It is to be understood that Varwnos's argument - he noted that the rules of the competition appeared to be ever-changing, semi-whimsically or at least partly very obviously out of mere reaction to the requests of the posters- was centered on the rather obscure logic of the dismissal of the labelling. In earnest, what appeared to have happened was that the simple note by mrtn that his graphic was modded from two different games carried some weight in Flamand's decision, whereas this did not seem to be in accordance with what had been previously expected of him. Also it is theorised that Varwnos's note also was one in the formation of which there had been made consideration of the labelling of another creators graphic, Storm Grant's as a mopdified/copy-pasted one, when that graphic too consisted of edited graphics taken from two different sources. This part was not mentioned by Varwnos, probabgly because of an estimated general lack of a will to revive in full the old discussion about modded graphics, however it is quite probable that it was part of his own comment. The discussion, being seen however despite all that supposed attempt to downplay it as such, in the end as trully one which would potentially escalate to another version of the older one, was ended by Flamand, in a midly sarcastic note which possibly was formed in such a way so as to allow for a soothing end to it, without really answering the comments which had been made, and taking advantage also of the probable general negative mood which had surrounded the matter, despite of the downplay.
This was a brief account of the recent events in the contest thread. Such is the state of affairs in it, and yet one has to lower his fingers once again, and allow them to dance from key to key, so as to form yet another carefully thought-through, but even more carefully examined as of its general pointlesness in sight of so powerfull urges against the supporting of any argument which essentially would be again echoing of the will for division between types of graphics, sentence.
(ps: before stormrage suffers a heart-attack: the above was written as a parody of a small text by kafka )
The thread where these arguments took place was the monthy PCX contest thread. As of late there have been various discussions, perhaps not very prolonged, however at any rate even so having given at least in some respects quite evident impressions of the existense of division in views about the clarity or even the general accurateness of the old rules of the PCX contest. The discussion started by Varwnos, or rather after a brief note by Yorgos, one of the observers of the competition, with Varwnos being a regular contributor in them. Yorgos had mentioned that, in his view, copy/pasted, converted, or otherwise modified graphics should not be taking part in opossition to entirely original graphics. His comment probably was not meant as one which would trigger a discussion, and it is agreed that one was forced to take place only after Varwnos picked it up and noted in a lot less uncertain terms that his opinnion was that definately original work should not be placed next to modified unoriginal one. The discussion which started in earnest following that post, however, resulted in nothing less of a very straight-forward denial of the notion that modified graphics should not be allowed, as was stated by the rule-maker of the contest, Flamand. Varwnos decided to back from his request, and so the first instance of the talk regarding the status of the modified graphics in the competition was brought to an end.
However, after some more posts, the matter was again revived, this time though not as an issue of whether or not unoriginal graphics should be allowed entry to the competition, but whether a specific such graphic should be allowed to participate without being labelled as a modified one. The owner of that graphic, mrtn, who had before that taken part in the first discussion as well, supporting the inclusion of modified graphics, now argued that his graphic should not carry the title of modified or copy/pasted, or converted, whereas very briefly Flamand had agreed to label it as such. Mrtn's argument was that his graphic is not a converted one, since it consisted of graphics from two different games, which were not to be found in the arrangement particular to them in his own creation. He also mentioned the fact that another creator, aaglo, had provided a part of them.
Mrtn's argument was accepted as true by Flamand, and thus the labeling of his file was taken away again, at which point Varwnos remarked again about the state of the laws of the competition.
It is to be understood that Varwnos's argument - he noted that the rules of the competition appeared to be ever-changing, semi-whimsically or at least partly very obviously out of mere reaction to the requests of the posters- was centered on the rather obscure logic of the dismissal of the labelling. In earnest, what appeared to have happened was that the simple note by mrtn that his graphic was modded from two different games carried some weight in Flamand's decision, whereas this did not seem to be in accordance with what had been previously expected of him. Also it is theorised that Varwnos's note also was one in the formation of which there had been made consideration of the labelling of another creators graphic, Storm Grant's as a mopdified/copy-pasted one, when that graphic too consisted of edited graphics taken from two different sources. This part was not mentioned by Varwnos, probabgly because of an estimated general lack of a will to revive in full the old discussion about modded graphics, however it is quite probable that it was part of his own comment. The discussion, being seen however despite all that supposed attempt to downplay it as such, in the end as trully one which would potentially escalate to another version of the older one, was ended by Flamand, in a midly sarcastic note which possibly was formed in such a way so as to allow for a soothing end to it, without really answering the comments which had been made, and taking advantage also of the probable general negative mood which had surrounded the matter, despite of the downplay.
This was a brief account of the recent events in the contest thread. Such is the state of affairs in it, and yet one has to lower his fingers once again, and allow them to dance from key to key, so as to form yet another carefully thought-through, but even more carefully examined as of its general pointlesness in sight of so powerfull urges against the supporting of any argument which essentially would be again echoing of the will for division between types of graphics, sentence.
(ps: before stormrage suffers a heart-attack: the above was written as a parody of a small text by kafka
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