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Whether out of sheer ignorance or vile dishonesty the PC left enjoys nothing more than to demonise the U.S. and the West.
The following are the assertations of a very vocal, but very misguided PCist:
Note here how he labels the U.S. war on Iraq and Ahfganistan an "Imperial Aggression", and that the U.S. has caused more death and destruction then this misunderstood and vicitimized terrorist al-Zarqawi.
Our PC friend here purposely omits the moral equation. The civilian casualties inflicted by the U.S./coalition war were not in any way deliberate, while the "poor" terrorist al-Zarqawi's full intention was to target and murder civilians.
He also seems to forget the Islamic terrorist attack on 9/11 that killed over 3,000 innocent civilians, the suicide attack on the U.S.S. Cole that killed 17 sailors, the terrorist bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya that killed over 200 innocents and injured 4,000 more, the list goes on.
This U.S. "Imperial aggression" is merely the long awaited response to the many many Islamic terrorist attacks that have gone unanswered for far too long.
The typical PC cliche: "The U.S. created the Islamic terrorists".
Is there any truth or logic in this absurd accusation? Let us analyse this claim.
-The U.S. aided Muslim Ahfganistan to successfully repel the Soviet invasion.
How does this translate to the U.S. creating Muslim terrorists and Muslim anger toward the U.S. and the West?
Would it not be logical to deduce that U.S. aid would have increased favorable Muslim sentiment toward the U.S.?
-The U.S. defended Bosnian Muslims from Serbian aggression.
Again, how does this constitute Muslim animosity towards the U.S.?
-The U.S. and coalition forces come to the defence of Kuwait (a small, weaker Muslim nation) from the invasion and "vandalisation" of Iraq.
Does this U.S. aid create monsters such as Osama bin Laden and al-Zarqawi?
If you apply a little logic, the answer is no.
Mr. PC then confidantly asks:
MobBoss hits the nail on the head:
Islam creates Muslim terrorists. These terrorist acts are not only justified but are divinely mandated by the Islamic doctrine.
The proof is in the Quran and the Hadith, all one must do is read them.
Its time we start calling a spade a spade without the fear of offending Muslim sensitiveties.
Terrorism is a crime motivated by an ideology. Islamic terrorism is a crime of faith. The Muslim terrorists are Islamic to the core.
It is the PC and Muslim apologist view that Islam is certainly not the problem, they just can't understand that the problem is within Islam and will not go away, or be neutralized, until this fact is recognized.
I am not saying that every Muslim iis the problem, many who identify themselves as Muslims have only a glancing acquaintance with and interest in the Islamic doctrine.
Many shy away from admitting the deep crises in Islam today on the pretext that it will demoralize and anger the moderate Muslims. If they are genuine moderates, there is no reason why this should happen.
If any moderate Islam project is to succeed, it will only do so by identifying the elements in the Islam doctrine that give rise to violence and terrorism, they must work in whatever way possible to change the Muslim understanding of those elements so that jihad recruiters can no longer convince disillusioned young men to join them by appealing to their desire to live out "pure Islam"
If moderate Muslims were to do this, would they succeed in changing millions of Muslims understanding of Islam? that is an open question, however it has no chance of happening unless they acknowledge why Islam creates people like Osama bin Laden and al-Zarqwai.
Moderator Action: Please attribute your quotes to the people they're from, given that they're from other threads. You can do this by adding =Poster Name right after Quote in the first Quote tag. - The Yankee
The following are the assertations of a very vocal, but very misguided PCist:
let's never forget while we all vilify and demonise this man[al-Zarqawi] and his cause - that he has not been responsible for as much destruction - and not as many deaths - as US Imperial Aggression has done, all over the Middle East.
Note here how he labels the U.S. war on Iraq and Ahfganistan an "Imperial Aggression", and that the U.S. has caused more death and destruction then this misunderstood and vicitimized terrorist al-Zarqawi.
Our PC friend here purposely omits the moral equation. The civilian casualties inflicted by the U.S./coalition war were not in any way deliberate, while the "poor" terrorist al-Zarqawi's full intention was to target and murder civilians.
He also seems to forget the Islamic terrorist attack on 9/11 that killed over 3,000 innocent civilians, the suicide attack on the U.S.S. Cole that killed 17 sailors, the terrorist bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya that killed over 200 innocents and injured 4,000 more, the list goes on.
This U.S. "Imperial aggression" is merely the long awaited response to the many many Islamic terrorist attacks that have gone unanswered for far too long.
I just said there are many countries around the world who maintain prosperity and security for their citizens, without vandalising other, weaker nations and therefore creating terrorist monsters such as this thread is concerned with. That's all. Have a nice day
The typical PC cliche: "The U.S. created the Islamic terrorists".
Is there any truth or logic in this absurd accusation? Let us analyse this claim.
-The U.S. aided Muslim Ahfganistan to successfully repel the Soviet invasion.
How does this translate to the U.S. creating Muslim terrorists and Muslim anger toward the U.S. and the West?
Would it not be logical to deduce that U.S. aid would have increased favorable Muslim sentiment toward the U.S.?
-The U.S. defended Bosnian Muslims from Serbian aggression.
Again, how does this constitute Muslim animosity towards the U.S.?
-The U.S. and coalition forces come to the defence of Kuwait (a small, weaker Muslim nation) from the invasion and "vandalisation" of Iraq.
Does this U.S. aid create monsters such as Osama bin Laden and al-Zarqawi?
If you apply a little logic, the answer is no.
Mr. PC then confidantly asks:
If I'm so wrong, what is it that motivates him[terrorists] then?
MobBoss hits the nail on the head:
As an offhand guess I would say Islam-faschism.
Islam creates Muslim terrorists. These terrorist acts are not only justified but are divinely mandated by the Islamic doctrine.
The proof is in the Quran and the Hadith, all one must do is read them.
Its time we start calling a spade a spade without the fear of offending Muslim sensitiveties.
Terrorism is a crime motivated by an ideology. Islamic terrorism is a crime of faith. The Muslim terrorists are Islamic to the core.
It is the PC and Muslim apologist view that Islam is certainly not the problem, they just can't understand that the problem is within Islam and will not go away, or be neutralized, until this fact is recognized.
I am not saying that every Muslim iis the problem, many who identify themselves as Muslims have only a glancing acquaintance with and interest in the Islamic doctrine.
Many shy away from admitting the deep crises in Islam today on the pretext that it will demoralize and anger the moderate Muslims. If they are genuine moderates, there is no reason why this should happen.
If any moderate Islam project is to succeed, it will only do so by identifying the elements in the Islam doctrine that give rise to violence and terrorism, they must work in whatever way possible to change the Muslim understanding of those elements so that jihad recruiters can no longer convince disillusioned young men to join them by appealing to their desire to live out "pure Islam"
If moderate Muslims were to do this, would they succeed in changing millions of Muslims understanding of Islam? that is an open question, however it has no chance of happening unless they acknowledge why Islam creates people like Osama bin Laden and al-Zarqwai.
Moderator Action: Please attribute your quotes to the people they're from, given that they're from other threads. You can do this by adding =Poster Name right after Quote in the first Quote tag. - The Yankee