More Wonders Please
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I think "Earth Day" as a wonder could be a nice addicion because every body can identify themselves with it.
Earth Day could even become the FIRST holyday to be celebrated the same day they all over the world.
Some people will think that there is already one but ther is none, you may say christmas but there is people that do not celebrate christmas like idians, asiana and jewish people, and then you may say that new year is celebrated all over the world the same day, but no Asian, Indian and some Middle East cultures don't.
In conclusion, the only holyday that could be celebrated all throughout world is Earth Day because no matter where you are from or what religion or and culture you are part of, we all live in the same planet.
Earth Day could even become the FIRST holyday to be celebrated the same day they all over the world.
Some people will think that there is already one but ther is none, you may say christmas but there is people that do not celebrate christmas like idians, asiana and jewish people, and then you may say that new year is celebrated all over the world the same day, but no Asian, Indian and some Middle East cultures don't.
In conclusion, the only holyday that could be celebrated all throughout world is Earth Day because no matter where you are from or what religion or and culture you are part of, we all live in the same planet.
joespaniel
Unescorted Settler
The militaristic civs would ignore it anyway.
Maybe, but maybe not, considering religious civs don't have to waste 400 or so shields.
Then again, you're probably right. If there's a wonder that a civ's trait takes care of, we should have wonders for all of the traits, to make it fair. And I guess I'd rather have no new wonders with effects found in a trait.
changing government in one turn already exists with religious societies. not too powerful. so the statue of liberty wouldn't be too powerful. as for the taj mahal. it being used as a second forbidden palace is a good idea even if it is a tomb. what about the hagia sophia putting temples in all cities on the continent.
No, but it's like having a wonder that replicates a Civ specific trait and instead of 2 traits, human players can use their usual tricks (tech brokering and pre-builds) to secure 3 traits instead of 2.
It's not fair. It's like having a wonder that replicates the industrious trait. No thank you.
It's not fair. It's like having a wonder that replicates the industrious trait. No thank you.
Yeah, it would unbalance the religious trait. However, that would be incentive for a religious civ to get it: to keep another civ in anarchy that much longer.
Maybe make it so that the Statue of Liberty guarantees two or three (maybe three for the higher levels) turn anarchy. it would help out the non-religous civs, especially on higher levels, and still let the religous civs have an advantage.
As for the rest, I'd just like to point out that a lot of these wonders are in the DyP mod. . ..I'd say at least a third of them. . . .
Lux_willow
Chieftain
I vote for:
Eiffel tower (or some other building... maybe the "conventions of war") - better reputation, industrial age wonder
Earth Day - reduces pollution in all cities (player and AI) by a factor of 25% requires ecology
Small wonder - "colonial governor's palace" reduces corruption in a small area, smaller effect than FP requires several courthouses, available after navigation
Human Genome Project - requires genetics... can't think of an appropriate bonnus though
Crusades/holly war - allows mobilization (and maybe even drafting) before nationalism, available with monotheism... small wonder?
Hollywood - makes 2unhappy citizens happy in every city in every continent, high culture available with new industrial age tech: movie making
Eiffel tower (or some other building... maybe the "conventions of war") - better reputation, industrial age wonder
Earth Day - reduces pollution in all cities (player and AI) by a factor of 25% requires ecology
Small wonder - "colonial governor's palace" reduces corruption in a small area, smaller effect than FP requires several courthouses, available after navigation
Human Genome Project - requires genetics... can't think of an appropriate bonnus though
Crusades/holly war - allows mobilization (and maybe even drafting) before nationalism, available with monotheism... small wonder?
Hollywood - makes 2unhappy citizens happy in every city in every continent, high culture
available with new industrial age tech: movie makingNo, it will be an incentive for a human player to get it for themselves, religious or not. And will make the AI even weaker. It is not a secret wonder building isn't the AI's strong suit and they usually loose out because humans employ prebuilds.
Whether pre-building is exploit or borderline is not the issue. The issue is we add yet another wonder that the AI won't get 80% of ther time.
slothman
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I think that wonders should give advantages to all players who have it regardless of traits and something other than "He doesn't have it" pluses.
Lux_willow:
Earth Day could remove 1 pollution but allow it to take 1 away from the 2 minimum you currently have.
Human Genome Project is like the Cure for Cancer.
Lux_willow:
Earth Day could remove 1 pollution but allow it to take 1 away from the 2 minimum you currently have.
Human Genome Project is like the Cure for Cancer.
Sorry. . . disagree with you there. There are Wonders that i try to get just to deny them to the AI. I'm sure the AI could be programmed to be smart enough to shoot for a wonder so the human can't have it. I mean, it's just setting a variable. In fact, after playing several games of DyP, and seeing the AI go for two different wonders that have the same, non-cumulative bonus just to deny it to other players, I'd say the code is already there.
So yes, you could say that it's an incentive for a human player to get it, but still, regardless of human or AI, MP or SP, if the religous civs get the wonder allowing shorting anarch between turns, then the other civs that aren't religious will suffer for it.
I would like to see these ones added:
First Alien Contact - after future tech 5
( haven't though of in any beneffits )
Por industry - after radio ( it will be better if they added comunicacions or television)
2 hapay faces to every male citizen
First Alien Contact - after future tech 5
( haven't though of in any beneffits )
Por industry - after radio ( it will be better if they added comunicacions or television)
2 hapay faces to every male citizen
fitchn
Civ Fanatic
Likewise, perhaps the Panama Canal that would allow you to send ships across a one-tile wide piece of land....
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