MP Game - RewriteHistory - 18civ EARTH map historical start position

[Provolution]

I think you apply the patch as a mod you load every time.

 

[zenspiderz]

@slaze

Yes there are few places left open. How soon will you be moving and for how long are you going to offline? Can you find a sub to play for you while you are off?

 

[Indiansmoke]

Ah sorry as you will see from post 93 I have finished editing the map which means the civ script too. Germany has been disabled. If you want another civ you will have to choose one of the remaining unclaimed civs

Egypt
Mali
Ottoman
viking

That is fine then leave me with Portugal

 

[Indiansmoke]

I'm could join if spots are needed although i'm expecting to move soon and may be without internet for a time. Another issue is that of Bhuric's patch. I'm in other games without the patch and I wonder how this will affect things. Will I have to delete the patch every time i switch taking turns in games? Or does everything run smoothly?

I don't habe the patch either, it doesn't make any difference, you can still play fine.

 

[slaze]

Well, it's possible that it may be a day or two, and i could probably get a sub if I need it. Whatever, count me in. I'll be Ragnar.

 

[zenspiderz]

Well, it's possible that it may be a day or two, and i could probably get a sub if I need it. Whatever, count me in. I'll be Ragnar.

Ok great. If it is just a day or two you could probably just queue builds and moves. We probably won't be starting for a few more days as well.

 

[Provolution]

Can you please set me up with Charlemagne with Aztecs?

 

[whiplash_CDC]

And if we go with AI's I would prefer Egypt.

I would like Egypt afterall regardless of how the game starts. So, switch me please. Thanx in advance.

 

[adyyc]

We will have the map?

 

[zenspiderz]

@ whiplash - ok you now have egypt.

@ provolution - this game isn't unrestricted leaders.

@ adyyc - um i think the game would be better if players don't see the map before hand. But if the majority of players want to see it before hand then I will allow it. I suppose I'll have to upload it to civfanatics and then give a link for you to access it. Or maybe email it.

Civs still available

China - Qin
Ottoman - Mehmed
Mali

 

[adyyc]

I need to know if you changed the location for India. Because a bad terrain/possition can unbalance the game.
I liked the position where it starts in normal map.
You also know the map.

 

[Provolution]

I would like the game to be a full surprise.

 

[Ulfang]

I would like the game to be a full surprise.

Same here

 

[classical_hero]

This game is more for rewriting history, so the places and civs and leaders need to be historical, so unrestricted leaders would not be such a good idea considering the thread.

 

[zenspiderz]

I need to know if you changed the location for India. Because a bad terrain/possition can unbalance the game.
I liked the position where it starts in normal map.
You also know the map.

I have edited the map to give all players a balanced start. I have taken into account all possible advantages and disadvantages, from room for expansion, proximity to coastline, aridity of terrain, bonus resources, presence of jungle, isolation, potential for trade routes and so on.

For example where one civ starts in a position that makes expansion difficult I will compensate by giving them extra bonus resources. Where another has lots of room for unhampered expansion bonus resources will be sparser and the terrian somewhat poorer.

Of course when I say I have balanced the start postions doesn't mean I have made them identical. I have also tried to keep the historical flavour (oil in arabia, ivory in india/africa, sugar and corn in south america, rice and silk in the far east and so on.

So you don't have to worry about having a disadvantaged start, this isn't a random map.

Of course I have seen the map; that was unavoidable. As I said if the majority of players think this is unfair and want to see the map too then I will allow it.

 

[adyyc]

I'm would likes to see the map. At least India start screened.

I don't want to see the whole map... just india start...
India was recognized for lot of luxuries.

 

[whiplash_CDC]

I would prefer that the map be a "surprise".

 

[Provolution]

Map surprise for me too. Its just a game, so historicity of the fog of unmapped land is half the fun. If someone sees this as a soccer match, I am sorry for them, as there are no awards. If we see the host benefit too much from know the map design (he should actually start himself with a small handicap, to be fair), that may impact that diplomacy and so on.

 

[zenspiderz]

Map surprise for me too. Its just a game, so historicity of the fog of unmapped land is half the fun. If someone sees this as a soccer match, I am sorry for them, as there are no awards. If we see the host benefit too much from know the map design (he should actually start himself with a small handicap, to be fair), that may impact that diplomacy and so on.

I do have quite a big handicap actually, I start on the rather dry deserty arabian pennisula, expansion west is blocked by egypt, expansion east by persia, north by ottomans, and south (east coast of africa) by water and the zulu. I will very likely be boxed in quite early. Also the one special resource I have in abundance (oil) is not available until very late in the game. In my situation knowledge of the map won't help me because the big advantage of knowing the map is knowing where the settlable islands are but my location is too far from any of them to help me. Also there are no goodie huts. Another thing it is a big map so after some time of playing I will have probably have forgotten where all the unrevealed resources are.

If you think that is not sufficient a handicap then how about I be the only civ that can't declare war for the first 40 turns (but anyone can declare war on me)?

 

[classical_hero]

Well you should also have sources of Incense since that is traditionally where it is found.