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MP12 - Winter Campaign
- Thread starter MeteorPunch
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Munterpipe
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I'm in for sure MP
. Who is doing the next turnset?
. Who is doing the next turnset?
ThERat
Deity
MP is up (Meteor), let's rock this game then
Munterpipe
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wohoo
MeteorPunch
#WINNING
okay off page 2 now... 1000 sign Open Borders with China...may help GPT a bit. I take Persepolis off the Hanging Gardens and put it on Heroic Epic.
1005 start on some catapults. We need to start building military in cities with nothing better to build.
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1035 Printing Press is discovered. This will be a huge economic boost. Islam is founded in Philadelphia, city of freedom.
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- 6th courthouse will be built in 3 turns, then start the Forbidden Palace in Tarsus.
- after Education, start a University in Persepolis.
- Persepolis should stay on Catapults and keep the Hanging Gardens in the queue.
- also after Education, see if we can get a nice deal for Philosophy, otherwise we may want to research it, then go for Liberalism. Otherwise, we need to go for Guilds to get started towards cannons.
- I don't know why the demographics aren't working for some of you, but here they are. First is from the start of my turns (1000AD), the next is from my last (1050AD). Notice the big jump in GNP because of the Printing Press. I think we're doing pretty good and could be a shoo-in for Space...but this is war.
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Munterpipe
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got it, but I can't play until tomorrow
Munterpipe
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0: We got ourselves a good lead in score and tech. We are a bit behind millitary, so I'll try to do something about that.
Rude Roosevelt has put Chicago on our Island. Maybe we should go culture war against it and convert i t to us? There is also room for another city on that island.
We also have room for a fishing village here:
and perhaps we should place a city here?
Concerning relations, we are ok. Huyana doesn't like us much, but Mansa Musa loves us. There Seems to be two teams here, the Buddhists against the Hindus. The Buds are perhaps strongest combined, so we should do something to split them up a bit before we go to war at least. (if we want to do that) Let's watch our back from Huana Capac, as he is quite unreliable. Our defence isn't much at the moment. I trade Feudalism with J.C. for Music and Drama.
1: Mansa wants us to declare war on J.C. At the time being we are not ready for that. two praetorians could take northeast Island as of now. They would certainly come for us first as we are placed between the two warring empires. Mansa is still friendly after I reject him.
Tarsus: catapult->longbowman
Persopolis: catapult->maceman
2: Bearfall galley-> Longbowman
Arbela aquaduct -> War Elehant
Persopolis Maceman->crossbowman
and the domographs doesn't work for me either.
3: Susa starts galley after courthouse
Tarsus starts the forbidden palace
adopt Theocrazy
and Vassalage
4: Anarchy over, Mansa steals fishing village on Tundra Island
5: Sidon forge-> Library
Susa Galley-> Catapult
Perso xbow->maceman
6: J.C wants us to declare war on Mansa Musa. hmmph!
no way
7: Perso starts on another maceman
8: Bearfall Longbowman-> galley
9: Arbela War Elephant-Settler
He is for the fishing village SE. Totally vetoable of course as I am unsure
10: An Army is forming in Bearfall but I am not quite sure what to do with it. If we want to make war on J.C. we should stop supplying him with Iron.
the save
http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=112863&stc=1&d=1137979972
Rude Roosevelt has put Chicago on our Island. Maybe we should go culture war against it and convert i t to us? There is also room for another city on that island.
We also have room for a fishing village here:
and perhaps we should place a city here?
Concerning relations, we are ok. Huyana doesn't like us much, but Mansa Musa loves us. There Seems to be two teams here, the Buddhists against the Hindus. The Buds are perhaps strongest combined, so we should do something to split them up a bit before we go to war at least. (if we want to do that) Let's watch our back from Huana Capac, as he is quite unreliable. Our defence isn't much at the moment. I trade Feudalism with J.C. for Music and Drama.
1: Mansa wants us to declare war on J.C. At the time being we are not ready for that. two praetorians could take northeast Island as of now. They would certainly come for us first as we are placed between the two warring empires. Mansa is still friendly after I reject him.
Tarsus: catapult->longbowman
Persopolis: catapult->maceman
2: Bearfall galley-> Longbowman
Arbela aquaduct -> War Elehant
Persopolis Maceman->crossbowman
and the domographs doesn't work for me either.
3: Susa starts galley after courthouse
Tarsus starts the forbidden palace
adopt Theocrazy
and Vassalage4: Anarchy over, Mansa steals fishing village on Tundra Island
5: Sidon forge-> Library
Susa Galley-> Catapult
Perso xbow->maceman
6: J.C wants us to declare war on Mansa Musa. hmmph!
no way
7: Perso starts on another maceman
8: Bearfall Longbowman-> galley
9: Arbela War Elephant-Settler
He is for the fishing village SE. Totally vetoable of course as I am unsure
10: An Army is forming in Bearfall but I am not quite sure what to do with it. If we want to make war on J.C. we should stop supplying him with Iron.
the save
http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=112863&stc=1&d=1137979972
Munterpipe
Clums
Yeah baby. That's right
Hmm it seems from my initial scouting that we won't easily cross over to Caesar's main continent via galleys alone, and probably vice versa? In that case we probably won't be actively warring against him shortly..so I guess the question atm is whether to focus primarily on infra or military.
City that Roosevelt got on our island is pretty nice, with flood plains and seafood resource. I'm tempted to war against him at the cost of hurting our relations with Mansa a bit. I mean he's pretty far away from us so I doubt he'll be able to mount an effective counterattack quickly enough. I don't know, thoughts?
City that Roosevelt got on our island is pretty nice, with flood plains and seafood resource. I'm tempted to war against him at the cost of hurting our relations with Mansa a bit. I mean he's pretty far away from us so I doubt he'll be able to mount an effective counterattack quickly enough. I don't know, thoughts?
Munterpipe
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I'm pretty blank too. If we plant a city south of the american and build a lot of theatres and stuff, we could take it culturally as well without maybe hurting relations to much. Culture bomb maybe?
That's an option too although I don't know when we're going to get a great artist. Trying to keep both options open..
Basically going to write up a brief synopsis of what happened during my turns..
At my pre-turn Caesar suddenly cancels his ivory for iron resource trade out of the blue, he doesn't like us enough any longer (he and his praetorians out of their minds?
), so I just give him cow for 5 gpt instead 
Going to move some military to the other island just in case and focus on that for the most part
Capital had hanging gardens queued after the Maceman so I just leave it
Somewhere around my turn 2 or so Mansa Musa makes peace with Caesar!
Also we got Education comes in and I went for Gunpowder and we're 1 turn away from it at the end of my turns
We got Great Scientist in Arbela, built academy there because it has the highest beaker amongst cities without academy
Arbela also built Settler and I founded Tyre on the SE corner of our main continent, I choprushed a work boat and just waiting for the borders to expand
Roosevelt apparently settled another city on the tundra island right by Mansa Musa
Hanging Gardens will also be built soon, happiness doesn't seem to be a big issue atm
I moved a bunch of units to the island and as of now we could take Roosevelt's city if we wanted to, but I haven't declared war.
We could trade printing press (or education but want to hold on that one for a bit) w/Mansa Musa for guilds or philosophy plus a bunch of money but I haven't pulled the trigger yet, up to next player to decide.
Basically going to write up a brief synopsis of what happened during my turns..
At my pre-turn Caesar suddenly cancels his ivory for iron resource trade out of the blue, he doesn't like us enough any longer (he and his praetorians out of their minds?
), so I just give him cow for 5 gpt instead Going to move some military to the other island just in case and focus on that for the most part
Capital had hanging gardens queued after the Maceman so I just leave it
Somewhere around my turn 2 or so Mansa Musa makes peace with Caesar!
Also we got Education comes in and I went for Gunpowder and we're 1 turn away from it at the end of my turns
We got Great Scientist in Arbela, built academy there because it has the highest beaker amongst cities without academy
Arbela also built Settler and I founded Tyre on the SE corner of our main continent, I choprushed a work boat and just waiting for the borders to expand
Roosevelt apparently settled another city on the tundra island right by Mansa Musa
Hanging Gardens will also be built soon, happiness doesn't seem to be a big issue atm
I moved a bunch of units to the island and as of now we could take Roosevelt's city if we wanted to, but I haven't declared war.
We could trade printing press (or education but want to hold on that one for a bit) w/Mansa Musa for guilds or philosophy plus a bunch of money but I haven't pulled the trigger yet, up to next player to decide.
ThERat
Deity
got it, what are our plans for the future? We said we want to conquer the world so we need to start somewhere.
Munterpipe
Clums
We've played much of the game without a clear plan. Are we trying to win on conquest? If we do, we should start conquesting soon. I think taking out Rome would benefit us the most since it gives us a lot of nice close cities to our capital. Also we won't get in trouble from Lois since he doesn't know J.C.
Attacking Huyana, or Roosevelt might get us the whole Buddhist branch on our backs. Can we handle that?
Attacking Huyana, or Roosevelt might get us the whole Buddhist branch on our backs. Can we handle that?
ThERat
Deity
save
Pre-Turn
first attempt to open the game ends in a CTD
2nd attempt succeeds however
since I can't check the demographics, I have to guess how well we do
research at 70% at some deficit
Mansa Theodore and Mao seems to be positive about us whereas the rest isn't
get guilds and 580gold for PP
increase research we would like to get liberalism first
I think we get too many good resources to attack Roosevelt
IT get gunpowder
1.1155AD
in order to go for liberalism need to get philo which I get in exchange for gunpowder
go for 100% research with big deficit but liberalism down to 6 turns
our civics ain't that great, heriditary rule would help us for happiness especially after the HG
go for it and bureaucracy
IT as a first sign of an impending war Caesar cancels open borders
2. 1160AD
nothing much but will bring back the stack to our mainland so we can eventually invade Caesar
3. 1165AD
we get Hanaging Gardens
4. 1170AD
slowly get back our units, with 1 galley that's really a yawn process
recuce science to 90%, liberalism still in 4
5. 1175AD
Mansa now has banking and divine rights over us and somehow aquired education
6. 1180AD
we get the FP that improves our financial situation a lot
reduce science to 80% at -32gpt
7. 1185AD
Gordium finished theater as part of a culture push in the north
IT we get liberalims and can select a free tech, chose chemistry since nobody else has that yet
8. 1190AD
Roosevelt does not want to trade astronomy, but he has divine rights
get it plus 350gold for PP
go for sci methods since biology would be huge for us
9. 1195AD
zzz
10. 1200AD
sci methods in 9, but we need astronomy to think about fighting Caesar
we have some units now in the west next to our capital and Bearfall
Mansu would trade banking but the deal wouldn't be in our favor at all, better wait for more techs to show up
Pre-Turn
first attempt to open the game ends in a CTD
2nd attempt succeeds however
since I can't check the demographics, I have to guess how well we do
research at 70% at some deficit
Mansa Theodore and Mao seems to be positive about us whereas the rest isn't
get guilds and 580gold for PP
increase research we would like to get liberalism first
I think we get too many good resources to attack Roosevelt
IT get gunpowder
1.1155AD
in order to go for liberalism need to get philo which I get in exchange for gunpowder
go for 100% research with big deficit but liberalism down to 6 turns
our civics ain't that great, heriditary rule would help us for happiness especially after the HG
go for it and bureaucracy
IT as a first sign of an impending war Caesar cancels open borders
2. 1160AD
nothing much but will bring back the stack to our mainland so we can eventually invade Caesar
3. 1165AD
we get Hanaging Gardens
4. 1170AD
slowly get back our units, with 1 galley that's really a yawn process
recuce science to 90%, liberalism still in 4
5. 1175AD
Mansa now has banking and divine rights over us and somehow aquired education
6. 1180AD
we get the FP that improves our financial situation a lot
reduce science to 80% at -32gpt
7. 1185AD
Gordium finished theater as part of a culture push in the north
IT we get liberalims and can select a free tech, chose chemistry since nobody else has that yet
8. 1190AD
Roosevelt does not want to trade astronomy, but he has divine rights
get it plus 350gold for PP
go for sci methods since biology would be huge for us
9. 1195AD
zzz
10. 1200AD
sci methods in 9, but we need astronomy to think about fighting Caesar
we have some units now in the west next to our capital and Bearfall
Mansu would trade banking but the deal wouldn't be in our favor at all, better wait for more techs to show up
