Leha
ooseepoosee
MP - up
ThERat - on deck
Leha
Beorn
markh - just played
MP9 - AWE Pangaea, Austria
- Thread starter MeteorPunch
- Start date
MP - up
ThERat - on deck
Leha
Beorn
markh - just played
ThERat
Deity
MP posted in other threads that he is very busy, but since this is 'his' game, I did not want to interfere.
MP, let us know whether you need a skip, it's not an issue at all.
MP, let us know whether you need a skip, it's not an issue at all.
Leha
ooseepoosee
I just hoped to finish this by 18-sep (I won't be available since then as I posted in my first post).
MeteorPunch
#WINNING
Sorry Leha, I don't think this one will be finished by then unless everyone gets on the ball (especially me 
). I will play this this afternoon ~6-8 hours today.
I did get really busy, but it's no excuse not to post a skip or something. I just thought I'd have time to play it.
). I will play this this afternoon ~6-8 hours today.I did get really busy, but it's no excuse not to post a skip or something. I just thought I'd have time to play it.
MeteorPunch
#WINNING
450AD-550AD
450
These cities need Libraries:
Salzburg
Krems
Landeck
Kufstein
Eisenerz
Bruck
460
470
Chinan (CHINA) razed.
480
Hangchow (CHINA) razed.
490
500
English complete Copernicus.
Budapest founded.
510
Shantung (CHINA) razed.
520
The Byzantines make contact.
TRADE Education for Printing Press and 38 gold.
they have 12 cities to our 24.
English make an interior landing at Lienz.
530
540
Zulu make a landing on the mountain by Feldkurch.
Chemistry discovered.
Pecs founded.
550
- China has Riders. I lost some workers because the Rider darted out of the fog at a range a knight couldn't have.
- The south has been much busier than the west in terms of military.
- I have not seen Byzantine units yet, but expect a large stack or two soon.
- There is a settler ready to build in the northwest under a sword army. a pike is on the way for defense.
- In AW, it seems you are always short of everything. In this game so far we have plenty of workers at the moment, and with Vienna being a settler factory available, plenty of settlers. Military is the #1 need.
- I think we should pillage our saltpeter source so we can build pikes. I just had this idea now writing this. Muskets are too expensive at the moment when you can have a knight for 10 shields more, but on the other hand, knights are too expensive for defense when we could have pikes.
- Isin has been in resistence this entire turn. I even left a sword army and another sword in there and the resistence was not calmed. consider disbanding the town and rebuilding there.
- I have neglected using armies to raze very much. They are needed to help the other frontline units.
- Enemies keep sending settlers to build, so we are getting lots of slaves.
- Need Library
Salzburg
Eisenerz (building)
Bruck (building)
MP - played
ThERat - up
Leha - on deck
Beorn
markh
450
These cities need Libraries:
Salzburg
Krems
Landeck
Kufstein
Eisenerz
Bruck
460
470
Chinan (CHINA) razed.
480
Hangchow (CHINA) razed.
490
500
English complete Copernicus.
Budapest founded.
510
Shantung (CHINA) razed.
520
The Byzantines make contact.
TRADE Education for Printing Press and 38 gold.
they have 12 cities to our 24.
English make an interior landing at Lienz.
530
540
Zulu make a landing on the mountain by Feldkurch.
Chemistry discovered.
Pecs founded.
550
- China has Riders. I lost some workers because the Rider darted out of the fog at a range a knight couldn't have.
- The south has been much busier than the west in terms of military.
- I have not seen Byzantine units yet, but expect a large stack or two soon.
- There is a settler ready to build in the northwest under a sword army. a pike is on the way for defense.
- In AW, it seems you are always short of everything. In this game so far we have plenty of workers at the moment, and with Vienna being a settler factory available, plenty of settlers. Military is the #1 need.
- I think we should pillage our saltpeter source so we can build pikes. I just had this idea now writing this. Muskets are too expensive at the moment when you can have a knight for 10 shields more, but on the other hand, knights are too expensive for defense when we could have pikes.
- Isin has been in resistence this entire turn. I even left a sword army and another sword in there and the resistence was not calmed. consider disbanding the town and rebuilding there.
- I have neglected using armies to raze very much. They are needed to help the other frontline units.
- Enemies keep sending settlers to build, so we are getting lots of slaves.
- Need Library
Salzburg
Eisenerz (building)
Bruck (building)
MP - played
ThERat - up
Leha - on deck
Beorn
markh
ThERat
Deity
save
Pre-Turn
MM a bit, get us to metal in 16 at -4gpt (reduced lux to 20%, increased science to 60%)
IMHO we have overmined the fringes, we need to stat to have specialist farms in those corrupted towns
IT one of the many exposed knights gets attacked but defeats archer (it's not a good idea to expose units)
1. 560AD
found Maribor defeating the settler pair next to it, defeat 4 units and raze Kaifeng
try and regroup some workers, again I have to say, I will never understand what is so appealing to let workers do the job alone
In groups they are way more efficient
2. 570AD
we have far too few defenders for the amount of enemies approaching
defeat 3 units and raze Tatung netting us 6 slaves
3. 580AD
defeat a settler pair, trying to strengthen all fronts
IT Macao gets attacked by a Russian knight, luckily our pike holds it off
4. 590AD
found Ljubljana in the west, stretching us even thinner
while taking out a dropped Byz spear in the east, we get a MGL, this will be to rush the Pentagon
2 elite victories later, we have another MGL!!!, this one will from an army
then I want to attack a knight unit and this happens
reload and see this
5. 600AD
defeat a Russian settler pair and send 1 knight army east
raze newly founded Der
6. 610AD
this is to pay back for the last time round, get a 3rd MGL taking out 2 knights
we can still from and army, which I gladly do
7. 620AD
quiet turn of advancing and waiting for the enemy to come
8. 630AD
found Kranj to expand southwest towards fur
start to attack Sumer and Liverpool
IT quite a few knights are near Kranj now
9. 640AD
defeat some of the knights, but armies are wounded, one badly
raze Liverpool for 2 slaves, raze Sumer with Oracle for 6 slaves
IT more units approaching the west, we are in trouble there
10. 650AD
kill a few units and put 3 defenders into Pecs
have to heal 2 armies, in case we lose town, we should be able to take it back with 3 knight armies and 1 sword army around
metal is due in 3 at -22gpt. I did not disconnect salt since we will soon face Russian cossacks and we better have stronger defenders for such a case
Pre-Turn
MM a bit, get us to metal in 16 at -4gpt (reduced lux to 20%, increased science to 60%)
IMHO we have overmined the fringes, we need to stat to have specialist farms in those corrupted towns
IT one of the many exposed knights gets attacked but defeats archer (it's not a good idea to expose units)
1. 560AD
found Maribor defeating the settler pair next to it, defeat 4 units and raze Kaifeng
try and regroup some workers, again I have to say, I will never understand what is so appealing to let workers do the job alone
In groups they are way more efficient
2. 570AD
we have far too few defenders for the amount of enemies approaching
defeat 3 units and raze Tatung netting us 6 slaves
3. 580AD
defeat a settler pair, trying to strengthen all fronts
IT Macao gets attacked by a Russian knight, luckily our pike holds it off
4. 590AD
found Ljubljana in the west, stretching us even thinner
while taking out a dropped Byz spear in the east, we get a MGL, this will be to rush the Pentagon
2 elite victories later, we have another MGL!!!, this one will from an army
then I want to attack a knight unit and this happens
reload and see this
5. 600AD
defeat a Russian settler pair and send 1 knight army east
raze newly founded Der
6. 610AD
this is to pay back for the last time round, get a 3rd MGL taking out 2 knights
we can still from and army, which I gladly do
7. 620AD
quiet turn of advancing and waiting for the enemy to come
8. 630AD
found Kranj to expand southwest towards fur
start to attack Sumer and Liverpool
IT quite a few knights are near Kranj now
9. 640AD
defeat some of the knights, but armies are wounded, one badly
raze Liverpool for 2 slaves, raze Sumer with Oracle for 6 slaves
IT more units approaching the west, we are in trouble there
10. 650AD
kill a few units and put 3 defenders into Pecs
have to heal 2 armies, in case we lose town, we should be able to take it back with 3 knight armies and 1 sword army around
metal is due in 3 at -22gpt. I did not disconnect salt since we will soon face Russian cossacks and we better have stronger defenders for such a case
Leha
ooseepoosee
Got it.
I'll try to play tomorrow (12 hours from now)
I'll try to play tomorrow (12 hours from now)
Beorn-eL-Feared
Idiot riding pedals
Wonderful. 4 knight armies ?! Full at 4 ?!!! They better be watching themselves, we're coming in 
However that reg english archer near our wall-fortified musket gives me creepy goosebumps
Out of curiosity, where would the Pyramids and Art of War be again? Does anyone remember? Not that important anyways, I'll see when it's my turn.
However that reg english archer near our wall-fortified musket gives me creepy goosebumps
Out of curiosity, where would the Pyramids and Art of War be again? Does anyone remember? Not that important anyways, I'll see when it's my turn.
Leha
ooseepoosee
Preturn
Scary
IT
Zulu knight dies on our elite knight.
Second zulu knight kills our knight.
English longbows attack our city and...
Well, leader survives
660 AD (1)
Build army, there are not enough knights to fill it.
IT
Russians lose 3 knights on our army in Kranj
Zulus and china start JB's
670 AD (2)
Metallurgy in 1 turn - sci 50%
680 AD (3)
start MT at 60% (due in 14 turns)
Send two sword armies on pillage missions
IT
Russians start Newtons
690 AD (4)
Raze Hastings (here I took picture but forgot to post it, there was some wonder in Hastings, Copernicus's I think)
700 AD (5)
Raze Kua (sumer)
710 AD (6)
I send leader to Salzburg for future cav army
720 AD (7)
pillage sumerian saltpeter
Raze Tugela (zulu)
Build Klagenfurt
730 AD (8)
Build New vienna
IT
Russian Knights kill knight army in Klagenfurt
740 AD (9)
Build another army
Abandon Klagenfurt to save second army
750 AD (10)
Some killings
Well, I should say not much of a progress
We must pillage AI.
SAVE
Scary
IT
Zulu knight dies on our elite knight.
Second zulu knight kills our knight.
English longbows attack our city and...
Well, leader survives
660 AD (1)
Build army, there are not enough knights to fill it.
IT
Russians lose 3 knights on our army in Kranj
Zulus and china start JB's
670 AD (2)
Metallurgy in 1 turn - sci 50%
680 AD (3)
start MT at 60% (due in 14 turns)
Send two sword armies on pillage missions
IT
Russians start Newtons
690 AD (4)
Raze Hastings (here I took picture but forgot to post it, there was some wonder in Hastings, Copernicus's I think)
700 AD (5)
Raze Kua (sumer)
710 AD (6)
I send leader to Salzburg for future cav army
720 AD (7)
pillage sumerian saltpeter
Raze Tugela (zulu)
Build Klagenfurt
730 AD (8)
Build New vienna
IT
Russian Knights kill knight army in Klagenfurt
740 AD (9)
Build another army
Abandon Klagenfurt to save second army
750 AD (10)
Some killings
Well, I should say not much of a progress
We must pillage AI.
SAVE
MeteorPunch
#WINNING
you guys have been generating lots of leaders - I like.
I think we need a game strategy now. The way I see it, couldn't these armies form a wall and make their way south razing everything as they go along? I think Sumeria and China are the first targets, then Zulu? Actually, I would keep China and Sumerian cities (low culture), no razes for them.
I don't think we should have advanced east past the choke, as that place was easy to defend. The military can go forward, but not new cities. It's just an unproductive thing we have to watch.
My last AWM pangea game (GA6) ended up with about ~50 cities and all the rest was razed land. There is really no point to own the whole map on this difficulty level. We can just keep sending armies out and raze the whole map. We will want to get rails, but we can win this game with cav/hussar armies. Leha was in that game. This is what the end minimap looked like:
Vienna needs to go back to settlers.
In Summary:
1. capture Chinese and Sumerian cities.
2. We need to build maybe 5-10 more cities in the gaps between our core and China/Sumerian lands.
3. send armies forward to raze everything.
Cavalry armies can raze rifle guarded cities well, and hussars have one more attack point.
I think we need a game strategy now. The way I see it, couldn't these armies form a wall and make their way south razing everything as they go along? I think Sumeria and China are the first targets, then Zulu? Actually, I would keep China and Sumerian cities (low culture), no razes for them.
I don't think we should have advanced east past the choke, as that place was easy to defend. The military can go forward, but not new cities. It's just an unproductive thing we have to watch.
My last AWM pangea game (GA6) ended up with about ~50 cities and all the rest was razed land. There is really no point to own the whole map on this difficulty level. We can just keep sending armies out and raze the whole map. We will want to get rails, but we can win this game with cav/hussar armies. Leha was in that game. This is what the end minimap looked like:
Vienna needs to go back to settlers.
In Summary:
1. capture Chinese and Sumerian cities.
2. We need to build maybe 5-10 more cities in the gaps between our core and China/Sumerian lands.
3. send armies forward to raze everything.
Cavalry armies can raze rifle guarded cities well, and hussars have one more attack point.
Leha
ooseepoosee
MP, i've sent two sword armies for pillage missions and discovered that Sumeria and china are pretty weak. Continent is making turn southward, Sumerians and China are in the north corner and don't pose a threat.
I'd propose to leave them for now. It is very convenient as other more powerful civs can't settle there. All major attacks come from south from Bizantines and Russia, we need pillage them fast - cavalry is coming soon.
I'd propose to leave them for now. It is very convenient as other more powerful civs can't settle there. All major attacks come from south from Bizantines and Russia, we need pillage them fast - cavalry is coming soon.
MeteorPunch
#WINNING
Leha: interesting strategy. We could let the sword armies hang around and pillage the saltpeter/horses resources from Russia and Byzantines - our 2 strongest rivals. I would never attack with these 2 units, so they don't risk losing health, if we choose to do this. The main problem is that they are slow, but if the Byz/Rus each have 3 resources, the swords can pillage, run to the next resource, pillage, in a circular fixed route. Hopefully, they didn't build on top of a resource or two. They would also obviously serve as scouts.
I think the single knight army should continue slowly razing Englands lands, while the main Southern frontline takes out Sumeria, China, and Zulu.
MP
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Leha - just played
Beorn - up
markh - on deck
I think the single knight army should continue slowly razing Englands lands, while the main Southern frontline takes out Sumeria, China, and Zulu.
MP
ThERat
Leha - just played
Beorn - up
markh - on deck
Beorn-eL-Feared
Idiot riding pedals
If markh can have it soon, I can't, so he might want to grab it. Consider it a swap request with provisions for a total skip 
MeteorPunch
#WINNING
alrighty
MP
ThERat
Leha - just played
Beorn - skip/swap?
markh - up
MP
ThERat
Leha - just played
Beorn - skip/swap?
markh - up
750AD : Hire a scientist in Bischofshofen to prevent riots
lower science to 50% - MT still in 5
IBT : Maribor completes barracks -> musketman
Landeck completes knight -> knight
Villach completes musketman -> knight
1) 760AD : knight army kills 2 Zulu knights
IBT : Innsbruck completes knight -> knight
2) 770AD : eknight kills Sumerian MDI
knight-army kills 2 byz pikes
knight kills byz warrior
knight-army kills Zulu crusader
knight-army kills Russian musket
IBT : Graz completes musketman -> knight
Feldkirch completes cannon -> settler
3) 780AD : knight lost against Chinese MDI
knight-army kills 2 Russian knights
knight-army kills Russian MDI and Russian longbow
knight kills Chinese longbow
eknight kills Russian musketman
IBT : Vienna completes knight -> settler
Eisenstadt completes cannon -> cannon
4) 790AD : eknight kills byz warrior
knight-army kills 2 byz knights
lower science to 40% -> MT still in 1
IBT : first Russian frigate bombards Innsbruck
MT is in -> banking in 6 at -12gpt
5) 800AD : knight kills Chinese pikeman -> promotes elite
knight lost against Chinese longbow
IBT : Salzburg completes hussar -> hussar
6) 810AD : eknight kills Chinese MDI
knight kills Chinese MDI
knight-army kills 2 English ACs
knight-army kills Zulu knight and longbow
One Swords-army discovers Russian rifleman
IBT : Vienna completes settler -> hussar
Krems completes hussar -> hussar
Kranj completes barracks -> musketman
7) 820AD : Capture York with Leo's -> walls, ivory connected
hussar kills Chinese MDI - WE ENTER OUR GOLDEN AGE
knight kills Chinese MDI
eknight kills English AC
knight-army kills Zulu crusader
knight-army kills Zulu musketman
eknight kills Chinese longbow
lower lux to 10%
IBT : Byz and Russia seem to be at war as they remove all units from our front
Landeck completes hussar -> marketplace
Lienz completes hussar -> hussar
Eisenerz completes marketplace -> hussar
New Vienna completes walls -> cannon
8) 830AD : Suddenly the front is clear, I have almost nothing to kill
upgrade some units now that we have Leo's
hussar kills Russian knight
knight-army kills impi and Zulu knight
eknight kills Chinese longbow
eknight kills Chinese longbow
IBT : Russians come back
Gmuend completes settler -> harbor
Bischofshofen completes hussar -> hussar
Anyang completes cannon -> settler
Budapest completes cannon -> cannon
Bruck completes musketman -> hussar
9) 840AD : hussar kills Zulu longbow -> promotes elite
lower science to 40% -> banking still next IBT
IBT : Byz offers a round of poker, but as I have no luck in games I refuse.
Banking is in -> physics at 60%, +23gpt
Kufstein completes hussar -> hussar
Feldkirch completes settler -> barracks
10) 850AD : hussar kills Russian musketman -> promotes elite
eknight kills Sumerian longbow
hussar kills Russian knight -> promotes elite
knight-army kills byz knight
1st swords-army spots Russian borders
knight kills Zulu knight
hussar kills Russian knight -> promotes elite
eknight kills Russian knight
hussar kills Russian knight
hussar kills Zulu knight
hussar kills Russian knight
lower science to 50% - MT still in 5
IBT : Maribor completes barracks -> musketman
Landeck completes knight -> knight
Villach completes musketman -> knight
1) 760AD : knight army kills 2 Zulu knights
IBT : Innsbruck completes knight -> knight
2) 770AD : eknight kills Sumerian MDI
knight-army kills 2 byz pikes
knight kills byz warrior
knight-army kills Zulu crusader
knight-army kills Russian musket
IBT : Graz completes musketman -> knight
Feldkirch completes cannon -> settler
3) 780AD : knight lost against Chinese MDI
knight-army kills 2 Russian knights
knight-army kills Russian MDI and Russian longbow
knight kills Chinese longbow
eknight kills Russian musketman
IBT : Vienna completes knight -> settler
Eisenstadt completes cannon -> cannon
4) 790AD : eknight kills byz warrior
knight-army kills 2 byz knights
lower science to 40% -> MT still in 1
IBT : first Russian frigate bombards Innsbruck
MT is in -> banking in 6 at -12gpt
5) 800AD : knight kills Chinese pikeman -> promotes elite
knight lost against Chinese longbow
IBT : Salzburg completes hussar -> hussar
6) 810AD : eknight kills Chinese MDI
knight kills Chinese MDI
knight-army kills 2 English ACs
knight-army kills Zulu knight and longbow
One Swords-army discovers Russian rifleman
IBT : Vienna completes settler -> hussar
Krems completes hussar -> hussar
Kranj completes barracks -> musketman
7) 820AD : Capture York with Leo's -> walls, ivory connected
hussar kills Chinese MDI - WE ENTER OUR GOLDEN AGE
knight kills Chinese MDI
eknight kills English AC
knight-army kills Zulu crusader
knight-army kills Zulu musketman
eknight kills Chinese longbow
lower lux to 10%
IBT : Byz and Russia seem to be at war as they remove all units from our front
Landeck completes hussar -> marketplace
Lienz completes hussar -> hussar
Eisenerz completes marketplace -> hussar
New Vienna completes walls -> cannon
8) 830AD : Suddenly the front is clear, I have almost nothing to kill
upgrade some units now that we have Leo's
hussar kills Russian knight
knight-army kills impi and Zulu knight
eknight kills Chinese longbow
eknight kills Chinese longbow
IBT : Russians come back
Gmuend completes settler -> harbor
Bischofshofen completes hussar -> hussar
Anyang completes cannon -> settler
Budapest completes cannon -> cannon
Bruck completes musketman -> hussar
9) 840AD : hussar kills Zulu longbow -> promotes elite
lower science to 40% -> banking still next IBT
IBT : Byz offers a round of poker, but as I have no luck in games I refuse.
Banking is in -> physics at 60%, +23gpt
Kufstein completes hussar -> hussar
Feldkirch completes settler -> barracks
10) 850AD : hussar kills Russian musketman -> promotes elite
eknight kills Sumerian longbow
hussar kills Russian knight -> promotes elite
knight-army kills byz knight
1st swords-army spots Russian borders
knight kills Zulu knight
hussar kills Russian knight -> promotes elite
eknight kills Russian knight
hussar kills Russian knight
hussar kills Zulu knight
hussar kills Russian knight
Here is the save and another pic.
We should gather a force to finish the Sumerians and the Chinese now. The hussars should have no problem to take them out.
MP - up
ThERat - on deck
Leha
Beorn
markh - just played
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/Mp09_850_AD.sav
We should gather a force to finish the Sumerians and the Chinese now. The hussars should have no problem to take them out.
MP - up
ThERat - on deck
Leha
Beorn
markh - just played
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/Mp09_850_AD.sav
Beorn-eL-Feared
Idiot riding pedals
Nice GA
Should we consider a research halt and go wild with hussar rushing ?
On a side note I'll have to be skipped.
Should we consider a research halt and go wild with hussar rushing ?
On a side note I'll have to be skipped.
MeteorPunch
#WINNING
looks pretty good. I'll play tomorrow probably.
I would not stop research. Our GA should get us into industrious age. Our cities can build hussars fast enough and we should build more marketplaces in core cities. There is a settler below the yellow knight to fill the gap- In the East beware of a byz knight. We should fill towards York with Leo's. A settler is on the way, but we need more units there to hold it. Expanding in the SW can get us furs.
