Beorn-eL-Feared
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Sounds like I'll be having fun with the new toys tonight 
MP9 - AWE Pangaea, Austria
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Leha
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Beorn-eL-Feared said:Sounds like I'll be having fun with the new toys tonight
Yeah!! Have fun
ThERat
Deity
a knight army, how sweet...
I think we should try and connect the gems to lower lux, also try and irrigate the east, I guess those towns are pretty corrupt and we better go science farming once our GL is expired.
I can see that 2 settlers are almost done, good to settle the north, try adn irrigate whatever is rather corrupt (even a 2 shield city won;t make much sense, rather get it to pop 6 and specialists)
I think we should try and connect the gems to lower lux, also try and irrigate the east, I guess those towns are pretty corrupt and we better go science farming once our GL is expired.
I can see that 2 settlers are almost done, good to settle the north, try adn irrigate whatever is rather corrupt (even a 2 shield city won;t make much sense, rather get it to pop 6 and specialists)
Beorn-eL-Feared
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We're showing signs of progress, and some illuminated guy with a sword has become a leader. So now what's up? 15 towns, 2 settlers about to settle, 2 towns about to be captured. We can therefore build an army next turn and we'll have enough towns to build another one when we get another leader.
Thing is we could build the HE and get more leaders. Our unit count is adequate for now, but we might fall back a bit if we make an offensive army. Making a defensive-purposed army might not be as good as building the HE either.
I'll wait for more input, am personnally tempted to build HE. We'd have to rush 2 knights to fill it with vets anyways at this point.
Thing is we could build the HE and get more leaders. Our unit count is adequate for now, but we might fall back a bit if we make an offensive army. Making a defensive-purposed army might not be as good as building the HE either.
I'll wait for more input, am personnally tempted to build HE. We'd have to rush 2 knights to fill it with vets anyways at this point.
Leha
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I was also fan of HE before, but AW gaming tought me that building HE isn't high priority, with all this warmongering MGLs pop here and there, so while we can build armies I vote for army.
MeteorPunch
#WINNING
As long as we keep generating MGLs faster thatn we have cities to support them, we have no need for the Heroic Epic.
Vienna is our settler/worker building city. Leha and ThERat seem to disagree with me on this, please say why. It has the most food bonus and a granary. It can make workers/settlers fast with no harm done. Taking a settler from our FP city (with no food bonus) is counterproductive. Change Eisenerz to something else, and have Vienna build a settler next.
I'm not trying to sound repetitive, because I think we're doing awesome.
I just want to know the reasoning here.
Vienna is our settler/worker building city. Leha and ThERat seem to disagree with me on this, please say why. It has the most food bonus and a granary. It can make workers/settlers fast with no harm done. Taking a settler from our FP city (with no food bonus) is counterproductive. Change Eisenerz to something else, and have Vienna build a settler next.
I'm not trying to sound repetitive, because I think we're doing awesome.
I just want to know the reasoning here.
ThERat
Deity
I agree with Vienna (why did they give all Austrian cities real Austrian names, but Wien is suddenly English 
) as a settler factory. During my turns however, I was short of defenders and there was no way I could have supported another town. Now, we should swap back to settler/workers.
) as a settler factory. During my turns however, I was short of defenders and there was no way I could have supported another town. Now, we should swap back to settler/workers.
Leha
ooseepoosee
I also totally agree with you about Vienna, MP. But as TheRat already mentioned, I was a bit short of troops. It's not exactly that I had not enough troops, it's just that I had no reserve for extreem cases, you know.
In short, you are right. Vienna should build settlers/workers.
In short, you are right. Vienna should build settlers/workers.
Beorn-eL-Feared
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I'll make an army, fill it when I can and call Vienna back to settlers/workers, down in size.
Beorn-eL-Feared
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Pre-Turns: Disband the swords army to rush a wall in Kliff Keep ... 
j/k
I'll try pulling the north off the Sumerians and Chinese and roading a few useful hill/mountain tiles for gems and artillery to have a wider area of effect around Bischofhofen.
IT: Sumerian knight comes from out there in the dark.
T 1.
Filled Knight army climbs up to Sumerian great north
Swords army headed towards the Chinese great north
Rushed walls in Kliff Keep.
MM so that Graz can reach 7
IT: That knight retreats off our unscathed pike
T 2.
Many kills, spot 2 zulu knights.
IT:Lose a knight to the first one, second dies off a pike
Spot our first templar buddy
T 3.
Pentagon, HE, Army ... Army.
T 4.
Anyang captured allows an army. 1 knight in 2 remain to come.
IT:
T 5.
The north is ours.
2nd knight army ready to roll.
Good turn as we gather 7 new slaves and set up for several new towns.
IT: Lose Villach to a sneak attack Sumerian knight. North armies will be back on time.
Zulus have longbows
T 6.
Some haggling around
IT: A Sumer settler pair conveniently enters our territory on an unimproved tile
T 7.
Gems connected
T 8.
Capture Macaco off the chinese.
IT: England drops an AC over the border. Sending reinforcements.
T 9.
Education is out. GL is now obsolete.
We also learn Gunpowder and Astronomy from Russia and England.
Research is set on Chemistry for now. We have one saltpeter on the small desert pocket by our capital.
Take out a redlined knight with a MDI, cover it with a pike. Habitual but
IT: A knight takes out the pike. A redlined knight attacks the MDI, dies and we get a leader.
However, a redlined archer attacks the now redlined MDI and takes it out !
And I thought bombarding them to redline would make them go away
...
T 10.
Both swords armies going into Sumeria for some burning. I'd personnally send the knight armies to Zululand, since they are the ones who send most units at the moment and they have bigger badder ones too. But mainly, they come from hills, and that's bad for us.
As can be found out on the picture, we need a few more defensive units to cover those towns in the north, although there is no immediate threat to them.
England has been supiciously silent in those turns, all I saw from them was an AC boat-dropped near the iron. Need I remind you that I moved the army and they would now be free to attack a fortified hill/wall, but conceivably vulnerable, spearman as they want.
Zululand sends Templars from the SW, Knights from the SE and longbows from the S, approximately. It would be a good idea to pay them an excursion with those knight armies to shut down a few production centers and ressources.
Russia has sent forth a pike/settler pair. China has only MDI's and archers to offer, which are easily thwarted again and again.
j/kI'll try pulling the north off the Sumerians and Chinese and roading a few useful hill/mountain tiles for gems and artillery to have a wider area of effect around Bischofhofen.
IT: Sumerian knight comes from out there in the dark.
T 1.
Filled Knight army climbs up to Sumerian great north
Swords army headed towards the Chinese great north
Rushed walls in Kliff Keep.
MM so that Graz can reach 7
IT: That knight retreats off our unscathed pike
T 2.
Many kills, spot 2 zulu knights.
IT:Lose a knight to the first one, second dies off a pike
Spot our first templar buddy
T 3.
Pentagon, HE, Army ... Army.
T 4.
Anyang captured allows an army. 1 knight in 2 remain to come.
IT:
T 5.
The north is ours.
2nd knight army ready to roll.
Good turn as we gather 7 new slaves and set up for several new towns.
IT: Lose Villach to a sneak attack Sumerian knight. North armies will be back on time.
Zulus have longbows
T 6.
Some haggling around
IT: A Sumer settler pair conveniently enters our territory on an unimproved tile
T 7.
Gems connected
T 8.
Capture Macaco off the chinese.
IT: England drops an AC over the border. Sending reinforcements.
T 9.
Education is out. GL is now obsolete.
We also learn Gunpowder and Astronomy from Russia and England.
Research is set on Chemistry for now. We have one saltpeter on the small desert pocket by our capital.
Take out a redlined knight with a MDI, cover it with a pike. Habitual but
IT: A knight takes out the pike. A redlined knight attacks the MDI, dies and we get a leader.
However, a redlined archer attacks the now redlined MDI and takes it out !
And I thought bombarding them to redline would make them go away
...T 10.
Both swords armies going into Sumeria for some burning. I'd personnally send the knight armies to Zululand, since they are the ones who send most units at the moment and they have bigger badder ones too. But mainly, they come from hills, and that's bad for us.
The hostiles' situation
As can be found out on the picture, we need a few more defensive units to cover those towns in the north, although there is no immediate threat to them.
England has been supiciously silent in those turns, all I saw from them was an AC boat-dropped near the iron. Need I remind you that I moved the army and they would now be free to attack a fortified hill/wall, but conceivably vulnerable, spearman as they want.
Zululand sends Templars from the SW, Knights from the SE and longbows from the S, approximately. It would be a good idea to pay them an excursion with those knight armies to shut down a few production centers and ressources.
Russia has sent forth a pike/settler pair. China has only MDI's and archers to offer, which are easily thwarted again and again.
MeteorPunch
#WINNING
Pre-Turns: Disband the swords army to rush a wall in Kliff Keep ...
whew..!
Nice turn, Beorn.
Looks like things have gone in our favor. It is very odd to get Astronomy with the Great Library, but we'll take it. Russia is at peace with us - we need to declare war on the immediately. I assume we got contact with them in turn 9 with an Astronomy trade between England and Russia.
We need about 4-5 more towns up north for scientist farms. These towns are extremely vulnerable to a coastal landing and need defenders.
Our culture is actually very favorable vs. China, so at the moment we can keep Chinese cities. Good thing you noticed that.
I would send a knight from Innsbrook to attack the wounded zulu knight before it kills our vulnerable swordsman.
Vienna may be able to build settlers/workers faster by keeping the population under size 7, because there is less food needed to fill the box.
one more city = one more army.
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Beorn-eL-Feared
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Whoops! sorry for Russia 
Astronomy should have made me notice it was a new contact.
I did keep the Chinese cities because their culture blows and they were pop 2 anyways. I razed the sumerian city W of Wiener Neustadt but kept Akshak, since a flip there wouldn't threaten us and it made for a faster army. I don't think it will be very inclined to flip, and if it does I'll wear the flip dunce hat (I've got one crocheted for volcanoes from sana03, I'll make another one for flips).
Problem with the Innsbruck knight is that it won't have backup out there. I'd rather use it to cover the swordsman.
Astronomy should have made me notice it was a new contact.I did keep the Chinese cities because their culture blows and they were pop 2 anyways. I razed the sumerian city W of Wiener Neustadt but kept Akshak, since a flip there wouldn't threaten us and it made for a faster army. I don't think it will be very inclined to flip, and if it does I'll wear the flip dunce hat (I've got one crocheted for volcanoes from sana03, I'll make another one for flips).
Problem with the Innsbruck knight is that it won't have backup out there. I'd rather use it to cover the swordsman.
Here it is :
350AD : Declare war on Russia, No trades possible. They are equal to us
IBT : eSwordsman defeats knight on defense
Kufstein builds pikeman -> pikeman
England starts Copernicus
1) 360AD : Take Lagash
enight kills Chinese spear and gets us two new slaves
IBT : eKnight lost to a Chinese MDI
Vienna completes settler -> worker
Bischofshofen completes pikeman -> knight
2) 370AD : eKnight kills Zulu knight
Raze Intombe killimg a knight and 2 Impis
Mdi kills English spearman
IBT : Vienna completes worker -> knight
Innsbruck completes pikeman ->library
Krems completes knight -> knight
Lienz completes library -> knight
3) 380AD : MDI kills Chinese spearman -> promotes to elite
we take Isin
abandon Lagash, we cannot hold it ibt and flip chances are at 65%, we have too few units imo
IBT : -
4) 390AD : army kills two units
knight lost to an English AC
IBT : Salzburg completes knight -> knight
Landeck completes knight -> knight
England lands another AC
5) 400AD : knight kills AC
found Eisenstadt -> walls
eMDI kills Sumerian LB
found Breclev -> walls
IBT : pikeman defeats crusader on defense
Bruck completes settler -> settler
Russians complete Sistine's
England begins Leo's and Copernicus
6) 410AD : MDI kills AC
army kills Zulu knight
knight kills Zulu knight -> promotes to elite
IBT : Villach completes worker -> treb
Eisenerz completes granary -> treb
Akshak completes spearman -> harbor
7) 420AD : eSwordsman kills Zulu archer
IBT : pikeman kills Zulu MDI on defense
8) 430AD :eMDI kills Chinese MDI
eSwordsman lost against Sumerian knight
Feldkirch founded -> worker
eKnight kills Zulu LB
army kills Chinese MDI and Suemrian LB
eknight kills Sumerian knight
Raze Kish
IBT : eknight lost against Sumerian MDI
Vienna completes knight -> settler
9) 440AD : eMDI kills Englsih spearman
knight kills Zulu knight
IBT : Landeck completes knight -> library
Kliff Keep completes barracks -> harbor
England completes Leo's
10) 450AD : knight kills Sumerian LB
knight lost against Chinese pikeman
raze Swazi
knight army kills 2 Chinese MDIs
eMDI kills Chinese MDI
We have no direct borders to other civs any more. Sumeria is down to 5 cities. I would suggest to expand west to grab the spices SW of Graz.
350AD : Declare war on Russia, No trades possible. They are equal to us
IBT : eSwordsman defeats knight on defense
Kufstein builds pikeman -> pikeman
England starts Copernicus
1) 360AD : Take Lagash
enight kills Chinese spear and gets us two new slaves
IBT : eKnight lost to a Chinese MDI
Vienna completes settler -> worker
Bischofshofen completes pikeman -> knight
2) 370AD : eKnight kills Zulu knight
Raze Intombe killimg a knight and 2 Impis
Mdi kills English spearman
IBT : Vienna completes worker -> knight
Innsbruck completes pikeman ->library
Krems completes knight -> knight
Lienz completes library -> knight
3) 380AD : MDI kills Chinese spearman -> promotes to elite
we take Isin
abandon Lagash, we cannot hold it ibt and flip chances are at 65%, we have too few units imo
IBT : -
4) 390AD : army kills two units
knight lost to an English AC
IBT : Salzburg completes knight -> knight
Landeck completes knight -> knight
England lands another AC
5) 400AD : knight kills AC
found Eisenstadt -> walls
eMDI kills Sumerian LB
found Breclev -> walls
IBT : pikeman defeats crusader on defense
Bruck completes settler -> settler
Russians complete Sistine's
England begins Leo's and Copernicus
6) 410AD : MDI kills AC
army kills Zulu knight
knight kills Zulu knight -> promotes to elite
IBT : Villach completes worker -> treb
Eisenerz completes granary -> treb
Akshak completes spearman -> harbor
7) 420AD : eSwordsman kills Zulu archer
IBT : pikeman kills Zulu MDI on defense
8) 430AD :eMDI kills Chinese MDI
eSwordsman lost against Sumerian knight
Feldkirch founded -> worker
eKnight kills Zulu LB
army kills Chinese MDI and Suemrian LB
eknight kills Sumerian knight
Raze Kish
IBT : eknight lost against Sumerian MDI
Vienna completes knight -> settler
9) 440AD : eMDI kills Englsih spearman
knight kills Zulu knight
IBT : Landeck completes knight -> library
Kliff Keep completes barracks -> harbor
England completes Leo's
10) 450AD : knight kills Sumerian LB
knight lost against Chinese pikeman
raze Swazi
knight army kills 2 Chinese MDIs
eMDI kills Chinese MDI
We have no direct borders to other civs any more. Sumeria is down to 5 cities. I would suggest to expand west to grab the spices SW of Graz.
MeteorPunch
#WINNING
Looks good mark, lots of razing.
I'll play tomorrow, as I am up now in several games
I'll play tomorrow, as I am up now in several games
Leha
ooseepoosee
He he, we are getting big (or is it large?)
(or is it large?)
ThERat
Deity
this looks good and promising
markh
markh
Beorn-eL-Feared
Idiot riding pedals
Pink borders in former zulu land ? 
Nice breaking onto the Zulu; with them and sumeria gone, and China's slow-moving MDI's and LB's coming from 20 lightyears away, we should be good.
@Leha: both do fine, big and large.
I strongly wonder though: why does England lands troops rather than attacks us ? :shakehead
And out of curiosity, how much gold would we get for selling old walls in protected cities? 2, 5?
BTW the hill SE of the army looks like a good new frontline and it claims the Dyes
Nice breaking onto the Zulu; with them and sumeria gone, and China's slow-moving MDI's and LB's coming from 20 lightyears away, we should be good.
@Leha: both do fine, big and large.
I strongly wonder though: why does England lands troops rather than attacks us ? :shakehead
And out of curiosity, how much gold would we get for selling old walls in protected cities? 2, 5?
BTW the hill SE of the army looks like a good new frontline and it claims the Dyes
