MSAV REVISION OF "ATARASHIKA DOCTRINE"

[Provolution]

MSAV REVISION OF "ATARASHIKA DOCTRINE"

As we are about to set foot in Atarashika, we need to develop geopolitical contigencies for these vulnerable overseas bases.

We have presently two issues which require MSAV oversight.

1. Shall we settle West of Salzburg, to get us a port to American Heidelberg?
This may be one of our last chances to build a new city.

2. How shall we handle Coal City in case of a war.

Abandon the site?
Defend it fiercely as the Vietcong Highlands?
Capture Sverdlovsk to get in reinforcements and get a port?
Capture Macao and Anyang to get a port?
Should we consider an Atarashikan partner we should defend with bases, adding to regional security and troop access?

Otherwise, I leave diplomatic relatons to Godfather at FAMILIA

 

[Donovan Zoi]

I think that since we apparently didn't do it beforehand, we should go for an MPP and and RoP with Russia. IIRC, Russia's territory provides the most direct route to that city and would keep us from trespassing just to gain access there. Let's start to act honorably in our military dealings.

NOTE: this is just my personal opinion, and may not reflect that of the Foreign Ministry.

 

[Ashburnham]

I agree with Donovan. The time has come to start cementing friendships with our neighbors both at home and abroad. Russia, due to her central location and friendly disposition towards us, is a prime contender for a MPP.

 

[Provolution]

I am glad the doves have realized the need to commit, in order to preserve peace. Isolationism and greedy capitalist trading throws the initiative into the hands of other nations. Strategy and Ethics must be balanced.

 

[Provolution]

Well, I see no initiative on the foreign policy in Atarashika. If there is no foreign policy hammered out pretty soon, I need to plan around all contigencies with doctrine. Do you want that ?

 

[blackheart]

Don't plan on another city over there anytime soon, no good settling spots open.

 

[Provolution]

Seems like developments have preceded my preplanning, curious to see how much popout of the woodwork to make last minute fixes, where hardly anyone wants to plan ahead.

 

[Nobody]

there will be policy before the next turnchat, or we will be at war.

 

[Provolution]

Ok MSAV denies any responsibility for any build-up to military conflict if the Russians declare war after we have given the Coal City to some nation, and thus have no permanent presence there. However, the responsibility of workers and settlers are jointly Presidential and Domestic, whereas all treaties and trades are FA and TA. MSAV and CA has no responsibility for this crisis.

 

[blackheart]

Ok MSAV denies any responsibility for any build-up to military conflict if the Russians declare war after we have given the Coal City to some nation, and thus have no permanent presence there. However, the responsibility of workers and settlers are jointly Presidential and Domestic, whereas all treaties and trades are FA and TA. MSAV and CA has no responsibility for this crisis.

Ah, denying any involvement in this? Didn't you want a city there (I know I did, but I was wrong)? No involvement?... Really... I guess MSAV won't be doing anything to help then.

 

[Provolution]

We will fight the war if diplomacy fails.

But I am all for evacuation.

I wanted a city there, conditionally backed with a strong pro-Russian foreign policy. However, coal was denied to the Russians, and profits extracted without building any lasting relationships. This is proof that civplayers should not take diplowins for granted.

I can guarantee you to win the war, but no one wants it.

 

[blackheart]

We will fight the war if diplomacy fails.

But I am all for evacuation.

I wanted a city there, conditionally backed with a strong pro-Russian foreign policy. However, coal was denied to the Russians, and profits extracted without building any lasting relationships. This is proof that civplayers should not take diplowins for granted.

I can guarantee you to win the war, but no one wants it.

Of course we will drive the spear through their throats if diplomacy fails. But given our current ability and power, it should not.

 

[Nobody]

i said i want to make the peace, but if this was my game and not the demogame, or even if i was just a citizen not the FA ministry i would proberly tell russia to go to hell, and smash cathys face in.

 

[ali]

well ppl we wouldnt be in this situation if operation rays of freedom had been put into a effect (sorry lol)

 

[Provolution]

Ali, you were right, but don't hurt their feelings, they are kind of frail.

 

[Provolution]

This was posted November 30, 14 days ago. It seems that some citizens and officials are more interested in blaming MSAV than anything else, judging from the tone, wording and clear intention of some negative posts. This campaign is pretty much proven, due to the ignorance of this post, where I questioned the settler, which was given no directions or no poll was posted.
This posting was actually prior to the Zulu War, but no one took it seriously.


No one ever crafted a foreign and security policy for Atarashika, the prevailing policy that Apatheticans and Capitalist Doves with no interest in diplomatic relations rejected any proposals from both FA and MSAV. Now that these same people want MSAV to bend over, having succesively ignored commenting the open questions in this post, I will not give their advise any merit in the last minute, but to perfect invasion plans.

As we are not polling the settler by Stuttgart (CIA), merely retreating him, MSAV loyally supports that Ministerial action of movement instruction and will leave the area unless someone makes a poll sacrificing the settler for activating MPPs. As planned, MSAV will now strike at Russia by 1520, and take some of their cities. It is now up to the doves to work diplomacy and trades in order to make this war as short as possible.

Hairando may reject any proposals, but I am confident Itakaji, Edo, Kitakinu and Minami will help out in the war effort, hopefully Zarnia too.

I am also amazed that CIA has three settlers, but hardly posted a word about new city localizations, or if we should simply add them to a city.
These three buggers cost 3 gold per turn, now having been around for some 2 Terms, at least costing us 200 gold.

MSAV REVISION OF "ATARASHIKA DOCTRINE"

As we are about to set foot in Atarashika, we need to develop geopolitical contigencies for these vulnerable overseas bases.

We have presently two issues which require MSAV oversight.

1. Shall we settle West of Salzburg, to get us a port to American Heidelberg?
This may be one of our last chances to build a new city.

2. How shall we handle Coal City in case of a war.

Abandon the site?
Defend it fiercely as the Vietcong Highlands?
Capture Sverdlovsk to get in reinforcements and get a port?
Capture Macao and Anyang to get a port?
Should we consider an Atarashikan partner we should defend with bases, adding to regional security and troop access?

Otherwise, I leave diplomatic relatons to Godfather at FAMILIA

 

[blackheart]

well ppl we wouldnt be in this situation if operation rays of freedom had been put into a effect (sorry lol)

Yes, we would. Your little border forts and isolated garrisons would have been killed before anything could be done. Operation Rays of Aggression would have put us at odds with America and China as well.

I am also amazed that CIA has three settlers, but hardly posted a word about new city localizations, or if we should simply add them to a city. These three buggers cost 3 gold per turn, now having been around for some 2 Terms, at least costing us 200 gold.

Did you not learn anything from this episode? Look what happened to our foothold. Someone got pissed and was about to overrun it. Settling 3 cities on crappy land won't be much better. Having a city in the tundra would equal us pissing off China or America and having them attack us. Good job for that one. If the settlers are costing so much, why don't we disband some workers or military units since they number so much more and cost that much more? The settlers are reserves, incase a viable city location DOES pop up.

 

[Provolution]

Still, it should be resolved. discussed and polled, regardless on how stupid it is, and I still see the iron-coal location for iron-works plus a couple of other locations.

 

[blackheart]

Still, it should be resolved. discussed and polled, regardless on how stupid it is, and I still see the iron-coal location for iron-works plus a couple of other locations.

Why bog down people with worthless polls? Officials are elected for a reason: to filter out the unworthy choices. IF someone requests it, however, the official would then have to comply.

You nag people about shooting down your proposals without any plans of their own, I'd like to see a colonization plan from you then.

 

[Provolution]

I am not having a colonization plan, but I am the one stuck to defend them.
But again, this is a foreign policy issue.

for settlements, I see a combined Iron-coal location by Port Solema, plus there are a location by the Iroqi-Babylon border. I think there is room for three cities on our lands.