My first big win on warlord

supaguruzebidy

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Hooray Ive only been playing for a year and Ive finally had a big arse kicking win on warlord. By arsekicking I mean Ive reduced my opponents to rubble just mere shadows of their former self. I have finally clued on to the fact that you need alot of cities to be powerful. Also that you need to build 'em quick. Wow one year it took me !!!!!. :D

Im hoping that in one years time I might actually be up to prince!!! :D

:D OOH this is my 200th post too. Only took me one year to do that too :D
 
Seeing how no one else has yet congratulated you, let me be the first one to say "Congratulations".

Congratulations.

(I speak on behalf of Trip, as well as myself :))
 
Good job! just last night i got my first Monarch win. Warlord is the stepping stone though, beat another game soundly on warlord and step it up to regent. Anyway good job.
 
supaguruzebidy said:
Hooray Ive only been playing for a year and Ive finally had a big arse kicking win on warlord.

Congratulations !

I've been playing since original Civ3 came out and I am still only playing at Monarch level :(

If you are looking to improve at the lower levels then I have found that understanding trading is particularly important, but there are a hell of a lot of different facets to the game and it takes quite a time to understand the subtleties of them all.

The jump from Monarch to Emperor is particularly horrible and I think I will still be learning at Monarch level for some time.

I have found the best way to learn the game here is by reading articles in the succession games forum (or even playing a succession game yourself) .

There are some very experienced and very good players in the SG forum .If you follow one of these games and don't understand why someone played as they did you can just ask and people will normally be very helpful in explaining what they are doing.

I learnt a lot from the successions games forum which helped me in my solo play and I am now playing succession games myself which teaches me even more !

I would also suggest reading the articles in the strategy forums.

Good luck for moving on to Regent !
 
Con-grat-u-ma-freaking-lation ;)
 
I feel ready for the next step now. I have a pretty good understanding of the basics of the game now. Mind you I still havent been able to do a settler factory yet. I have come close but invaribly I have to stop to let the population back up again.
 
Congratulations, you're a credit to the firm. We can always use a bright, hardworking, young man like yourself in our Elephant Department. Here's your broom and shovel.

Seriously, Sir Clive's advice about succession games is good. Watching the experts play is a good way to improve your own game.
 
supaguruzebidy said:
I feel ready for the next step now. I have a pretty good understanding of the basics of the game now. Mind you I still havent been able to do a settler factory yet. I have come close but invaribly I have to stop to let the population back up again.

This is my main problem as well. In reality, it's tough to have a settler factory without the presence of cattle, wheat, or flood plains...and with flood plains, you get no shields.

I modded a game once to make flood plains produce one shield. That was a trip! LOL :lol:
 
Eyeoftiger said:
This is my main problem as well. In reality, it's tough to have a settler factory without the presence of cattle, wheat, or flood plains...and with flood plains, you get no shields.

I modded a game once to make flood plains produce one shield. That was a trip! LOL :lol:
then just use good old archer rush to get more land
 
Generally I find that with settler farms production of shields outstrips production of food. Mind you I follow this simple strategy. Every city you found builds one settler. I find with this I can build up an empire quite quickly and make sure that all my cities have barracks, walls, and two defenders.
 
Well Im into my first regent game now. Im up to about 1400 AD and in the modern era, I am finding trading very hard. Many countries are making outragous demands for the techs, plus I am being attacked without warning quite a fair old bit. I am being attacked by 7 countries right now, despite being quite strong and well equiped, and having defended myself very effiecently on previous encounters. I cant think why they are all queuing to get their butts kicked. I've been fairly polite and co-operative, and willing to trade. Seems like I'm getting picked on.
 
Here are some ideas based on your last two posts:

Generally I find that with settler farms production of shields outstrips production of food.
Then its not a settler farm. Settler farm is when you have a balance. Sometimes it means you have to shuffle citizens around so that they work that river tile one turn and the hills tile the next.


Every city you found builds one settler
An interesting strategy. Better to have your one or two quickest growth cities produce settlers and find a city or two that is a powerhouse producer and have it make units. To keep things focused on their strengths. Having every new city produce a worker asap is better than having them use their growth to produce a settler. If you have citizens in any city that are working tiles that don't have a road and another improvement, then you don't have enough workers.


make sure that all my cities have barracks, walls, and two defenders
Don't build any of these at first. Walls ONLY in cities on borders and remember that walls are useless after your city grows above 6 (good thing is that they cost no maintenance). Maintenance is the problem with barracks. They cost you money per turn so only build them in a couple core cities which will be unit producers. Other place would be in remote areas where you may need to retreat and heal units.


I am being attacked without warning quite a fair old bit.
Hit F8, select the Power section and look at where you stand. That's most likely why you are getting attacked (or you have all the resources). Better to have a LOT of regular warriors than 3 veteran swordsman. Seriously. If the war comes it will suck but the war won't come because you will look like you have a big army. You can upgrade or disband them later.

The other reason may be because of your diplomacy. Any time you break a promise (20 turn agreement) you get on EVERYONE's bad side. Just NEVER do it if at all possible. And never start wars while you have trades or RoP.

I am finding trading very hard.
Trade early and trade often. Don't hoard. That was my biggest mistake with science and what has probably helped my most in moving up. Research the obscure path and trade at absurd losses just to trade. See what everyone has and pay a fortune if you find one civ has a tech that another civ doesn't have - that way you can immediately sell it to the other civ. Also, NEVER make mid-turn trades (on their turn) or they will sell your trade to everyone and you won't get to.

Big thing that helped me was realizing that maintaining tech parity for all civs is actually beneficial - so I often give techs to the little guys in the hopes that they'll research something I don't have and I can buy it from them.

Just some ideas...
 
Trading is the best way to keep yourself from getting embroiled in endless stupid wars that you don't want to fight. Buy other civs' luxes, sell techs and resources, whatever. Having active 20-turn deals going at all times is without a doubt the best way to stay out of "annoyance wars".

Renata
 
besides lots of trading the best way i know to avoid being ganged up by everyone else is to form alliances once the FIRST ai attacks you. bribe a couple strong powers to attack him and then you accomplish two goals at once. you avoid having to fight the whole world. and you get that one enemy off your back since he has to deal with the others.

i cant say enough how overpowering alliances are. learn how to make the ai fight each other and this strategy alone will enable you to advance at the minimum one difficulty level. probably more.
 
Thanks for the advice guys. I must say though that this has been the most blood thirsty game I have played yet. Nations that were allied against me three turns ago are now tearing each other apart. It is the bizzarest thing. They ally against one nation then turn around a few turns later and attack their ally. Right now I have used my political skills to stay out of it and just kick one nations arse, but all the other nations are fighting in like two or three conflicts. For example the Iroquios are allied with the Inca and are fighting the portugese who are in turn allied with the aztecs and are fighting the babalonians. The russians and the celts are fighting each other, with the dutch and hitities (how do you spell it?) involved in a long running war that I actually started. The sumerians are also at war with the byzantines. Hears the twist. The celts are allied with the aztecs and are fighting the babalonians. The sumerians are also allied with the aztecs and are fighting them too (babalonians) with their allies who are the russians!! The portugese are fighting the persians with their allies the indians who are at war with the sumerians, who are allied with the portugese in fighting the byzantines. My head is starting to spin a bit but there are more of these freaky alliances going on. I have no idea who is fight who now. My foriegn ministers screen has red lines going all over the place.
 
How did the game turn out?

In terms of diplomacy, as a human player, you have the best advantage. The AI is usually quite fickle and are programmed to act like that. They make war and peace at their own leisure and the best strategy is often for the human player to check the diploacy screen and get a picture who is against whom and build that mental map.

Once you get it down, you can pretty much run the show from your capital. Pick a goal, find a rival and squeeze. If they are stronger than you, wait for them to get into a war, wait until their reserve units are used up and attack. You can ride the bandwagon like that and get away with it.
 
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