Sarevok
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Anyone checked it out yet? Im almost done with my game as Russia, and i killed Austria and Prussia and im now allied with napoleon to beat up the British.
Napolenic Europe
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I'm in the middle of playing as Napoleon right now. I've got Italy and England, am threatening Scotland and about to land an improvement-destroying army on Ireland, except that I just got dragged into war with the Spanish thanks to my "friends" in Denmark. Meanwhile, Austria, Russia, and the Ottomans are mostly waging a round-robin during which they've managed to largely overcome Prussia in their spare time. If I can just defend against the Spanish long enough to take the rest of Britain, then after that I'll be having a lot of troops heading for Iberia.
Previous (unfinished) game as the Brits I got all of Denmark and half of France - except I built the FP in Paris, at about the same time Austria, Spain, Prussia, and the Ottomans declared war on me and things went downhill quickly. Did you know you can't sell the FP?
Previous (unfinished) game as the Brits I got all of Denmark and half of France - except I built the FP in Paris, at about the same time Austria, Spain, Prussia, and the Ottomans declared war on me and things went downhill quickly. Did you know you can't sell the FP?
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I was playing as Britain, allied with everyone against the French. Captured most of Denmark and most of France until those Hussars captured Marseilles, which had a victory point location with my name on it! Now I am at war with Sweden and I think Prussia, I can't remember my own political affairs! But I have made a "slightly" altered version where Poland managed to survive through those greedy Prussian and Russian annexations. I conquered Prussia, Hanover, and Austria. And am about to conquer the Ottomans, Algiers, Tunis, Morocco, Papal States, and Tuscany. And you can probably tell: I added Hanover, Papal States, Tuscany, Morocco, Algiers, Tunis, and the Kingdom of Sardinia.
i find this scenario one of the hardest of the 9 for some reason, tried it as France and lost, went down a level, tried it as Spain, lost, went down a level, tried it as Britain, won easily, back up, blah blah
seems to me that this scenario doesn't suit my playing style or the levels in this scenario are harder than the equivalent level in the epic whereas in other scenarios they seem easier
seems to me that this scenario doesn't suit my playing style or the levels in this scenario are harder than the equivalent level in the epic whereas in other scenarios they seem easier
EmperorJay
Chieftain
In the epic game a rifleman is a rifleman and there is only 1 unique unit. In most of the conquests, almost all units are unique. In this scenario for instance, the French starting unit, the Voltiguer is 6.5.1 IIRC and is better than the Spanish best defender, Soldados, who are 4.3.1 IIRC. Maybe that makes it seem more difficult.
Woohoo, instead of hunkering down to survive the Spanish attack on southwest France I saw a bunch of Austrian cavalry headed for Portugal and was able to diplomatically sway them into an alliance against Spain. A whole bunch of cavalry-vs-cavalry battles later, and now neither Austria nor Spain has many left and I'm on the offensive with Pamplona already falling...
I'm playing as France and I have killed Naples, killed Portugal, killed Britian, killed Netherlands, and Prussia only has a few cities left. I was friends with Spain, but was pulled into a war with them due to my MPP with Austria. I am also at war with Russia, but I haven't taken any action yet.
I thought it was confusing at first, with all of the different units, but I got the hang of it. My advice is tackle one country at a time, even though you are at war with multiple countries. Don't try sending troops to Britian, troops to Naples, ect.
I thought it was confusing at first, with all of the different units, but I got the hang of it. My advice is tackle one country at a time, even though you are at war with multiple countries. Don't try sending troops to Britian, troops to Naples, ect.
microbe
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I just finished it as France, won 60000 VP at turn 88 (Monarch).
It was easy to take out Netherland and Kingdom of Naples in a few turns, do that first.
Then I signed ROP with Spain and sent some units to take out Portugal at about turn 25. There was a British city nearby with an VP location, but it was far more difficult to take out (British kept sending reinforcement).
The most important techs are Advanced Tactics, Military Logistics, Naval Tactics and Seapower.
This was the easy part. By then I had about 4 armies (including two France had at the beginning), two of them loaded with Imperial Cavalry and two loaded with Imperial Guards.
Ottoman allied with Britian and declared war. I took two of its cities but when Britian bribed Spain and Prussia I had to sign peace with Ottoman and focus on them.
Fighting Spain was the most difficult part, partly because Prussia was also attacking me, and then Austria which was less annoying. If I were to do it over again, I probably would just attack Spain before Portugal, and ally with Prussia and Austria against Britian. It was a little uneasy to invade Spain while also protecting cities taken from Portugal, with Britian constantly sending off reinforcement.
After Spain was taken, all was easy and I had got 6 armies, so in a few turns most Prussia's cities were mine.
So if you were France, I recommand you: 1) Ally with Prussia (and maybe Austria) against Britian; 2) Take out Netherland and Kingdom of Naples quickly; 3) Use all our forces to invade Spain and then take out Portugal; 4) Do whatever you want, probably take out Prussia.
I never bothered invading Britian, as that would be time-consuming, and this scenario is really short (96 turns). But they were annoying indeed, especially they kept bribing your neighbors to attack you.
It was easy to take out Netherland and Kingdom of Naples in a few turns, do that first.
Then I signed ROP with Spain and sent some units to take out Portugal at about turn 25. There was a British city nearby with an VP location, but it was far more difficult to take out (British kept sending reinforcement).
The most important techs are Advanced Tactics, Military Logistics, Naval Tactics and Seapower.
This was the easy part. By then I had about 4 armies (including two France had at the beginning), two of them loaded with Imperial Cavalry and two loaded with Imperial Guards.
Ottoman allied with Britian and declared war. I took two of its cities but when Britian bribed Spain and Prussia I had to sign peace with Ottoman and focus on them.
Fighting Spain was the most difficult part, partly because Prussia was also attacking me, and then Austria which was less annoying. If I were to do it over again, I probably would just attack Spain before Portugal, and ally with Prussia and Austria against Britian. It was a little uneasy to invade Spain while also protecting cities taken from Portugal, with Britian constantly sending off reinforcement.
After Spain was taken, all was easy and I had got 6 armies, so in a few turns most Prussia's cities were mine.
So if you were France, I recommand you: 1) Ally with Prussia (and maybe Austria) against Britian; 2) Take out Netherland and Kingdom of Naples quickly; 3) Use all our forces to invade Spain and then take out Portugal; 4) Do whatever you want, probably take out Prussia.
I never bothered invading Britian, as that would be time-consuming, and this scenario is really short (96 turns). But they were annoying indeed, especially they kept bribing your neighbors to attack you.
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Your empire looks likes the real Napoleonic empire! Even the Illyrian provinces ruled directly from Paris.
Black Waltz
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Apart from Portegual it does look extremly close!
Tavenier
King
Since it looks so historical, lucky for you they didn't include a little town called Waterloo! 
By the way. There is one thing I don't understand with this scenario. Here Austria is probably (one of the) weakest opponents for France. Britain, Russia and other playable nations are stronger or just as strong. But in real history Austria was, at least on the continent, by far the biggest threat for France. Especially in the beginning of Napoleonic rule.
The Austrian army was after France the largest army. After the defeat of Austria (and to a lesser extend Russia) at the (in)famous Austerlitz France became the undoubted strongest power in the world. And this all was after the starting date of this scenario.
By the way. There is one thing I don't understand with this scenario. Here Austria is probably (one of the) weakest opponents for France. Britain, Russia and other playable nations are stronger or just as strong. But in real history Austria was, at least on the continent, by far the biggest threat for France. Especially in the beginning of Napoleonic rule.
The Austrian army was after France the largest army. After the defeat of Austria (and to a lesser extend Russia) at the (in)famous Austerlitz France became the undoubted strongest power in the world. And this all was after the starting date of this scenario.
Scorpio05
Chieftain
Tavenier, that was the biggest problem I had with this scenario, it has bugger all to do with histroical reality. I know that you can't get everything right in terms of accuracy, otherwise the games would be far too detailed and scewed in favour of the human player too much, but this was ridiculous!
I played as France and I had the weakest army on the continent! I found myself overwhelmed in the beginning by the Spanish who Napolean whipped very early on. At this point I quit, not because I couldn't ahve resued the situation, but becasue I thought it was a bit idiotic.
At the beginning of the wars, France was the most powerful nation due to the revoultionary wars it had been fighting for the past 10 years. That's why you play the scenario, to see if you can conquer Europe as the little French Master, or defend as the other nations, not to watch as it takes 30 turns of a 96 turn game to build one unit!
This is not a scenario I'll be revisiting soon.
JazzToucan
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Not sure what you were doing, but as France I was able to churn out quite a few Imperial Cavalry and Imperial Guard due to the early GA.
As far as someone mentioning Austria. I played as them and won on Monarch. The Hussar is an impressive unit... possibly the best in the scenario.
The key to this scenario, and the epic game in general is making alliances at the right time and knowing when to stab someone in the back at the right time. You can't take on the entire continent of Europe at once... of course you'll lose that way.
As far as someone mentioning Austria. I played as them and won on Monarch. The Hussar is an impressive unit... possibly the best in the scenario.
The key to this scenario, and the epic game in general is making alliances at the right time and knowing when to stab someone in the back at the right time. You can't take on the entire continent of Europe at once... of course you'll lose that way.
Tavenier
King
The long time it takes to build units dissapointed me too.
And of course you can win as Austria. You can win on monarch with every nation. But my problem was that when you're playing France, the least you have to worry about is Autria. While in reality Napoleon feared Austria more then England or Russia or whatever. He knew if he defeated Austria he would be lord and master of Europe.
With this scenario your worries are more with Spain then Austria. Spain was in reality a pain to Nap too, but it should be easier to conquer then Austria. And that isn't the fact.
And of course you can win as Austria. You can win on monarch with every nation. But my problem was that when you're playing France, the least you have to worry about is Autria. While in reality Napoleon feared Austria more then England or Russia or whatever. He knew if he defeated Austria he would be lord and master of Europe.
With this scenario your worries are more with Spain then Austria. Spain was in reality a pain to Nap too, but it should be easier to conquer then Austria. And that isn't the fact.
Commander Bello
Say No 2 Net Validations
Having played (and won) it with the Prussians, I had to re-develop the idea of the 'battle of combined forces' (WW2 Guderians concept 'Gefecht der verbundenen Waffen').
First, I stayed neutral to build up Prussian military. Then, getting some money from the French for joining them against GB, I took Amsterdam, that giving me another victory point location.
With the FP finished at Frankfurt, I upgraded my little Prussians to fusiliers and switched sides, successfully attacking Brussels and Boulogne (the later I lost some turns later back again).
The French build an alliance against me, incorporating France, Spain, Russia and the Ottomans.
So, my barricades in the Hunsrueck area (west of Frankfurt) and east of Konigsberg, being garrisoned with lots of fusiliers, cannons (later large batteries) and some curassiers really paid off.... :tank:
Although there was no idea of further expansion, I won a nice victory point win in 1813, having graped down the French and Russian armies down at my barricade walls.. and, of course, with some counter-attacks of my 'Zieten' currassiers (historically they have been hussars) against the screamingly fleeing worn down imperial guards, imperial cavalry and russian troops....
First, I stayed neutral to build up Prussian military. Then, getting some money from the French for joining them against GB, I took Amsterdam, that giving me another victory point location.
With the FP finished at Frankfurt, I upgraded my little Prussians to fusiliers and switched sides, successfully attacking Brussels and Boulogne (the later I lost some turns later back again).
The French build an alliance against me, incorporating France, Spain, Russia and the Ottomans.
So, my barricades in the Hunsrueck area (west of Frankfurt) and east of Konigsberg, being garrisoned with lots of fusiliers, cannons (later large batteries) and some curassiers really paid off.... :tank:
Although there was no idea of further expansion, I won a nice victory point win in 1813, having graped down the French and Russian armies down at my barricade walls.. and, of course, with some counter-attacks of my 'Zieten' currassiers (historically they have been hussars) against the screamingly fleeing worn down imperial guards, imperial cavalry and russian troops....
Tavenier
King
Sounds like an interesting game you played, Comm Bello.
Didn't you get the chance to get some Danish territory?
Didn't you get the chance to get some Danish territory?
SuperBeaverInc.
Groucho
In this scenario the AI kept backstabbing each other and me. I was playing as Britain, and signed a military alliance with Prussia against the Ottomans to stop the Sipahis from attacking my possessions in Denmark. The next turn, they sign a military alliance with France against me. And a while later, the Prussians had signed a military alliance against me with the Russians, and the next turn they came to me with a peace treaty. 
Besides that, it is a pretty fun scenario.
Besides that, it is a pretty fun scenario.
Commander Bello
Say No 2 Net Validations
Not at all! My fusiliers entrenched at the horseground next to Denmark, and managed to keep them out of my territory, but that was all I could do at the northern front.
Every new built unit was to head east or west, depending on the current situation... and sometimes I had to re-locate some of them to defend my furs next to Leipzig, since that was the area at which the Ottomans attacked over and over again.
Luckily, the Austrians were at war with the Russians all the time, so they had no intention to open a front against me....
Tavenier
King
Then I find it quite an accomplishment that you still managed to win by VP!
