Native America Mod

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Ok listen up. I'm going to make a new patch for this mod within the next day or so. I shall be looking over ALL the unit ini files to make sure they match the files within, and I shall be included a Brand-New Silent Hunter unit, along with some new units and UU's for each tribe that didn't have much in that department in the last version.

Oh and thankyou for you fantastic suggestions Mourndraken. One question: Should WOOD AND CEDAR be two separate resourches? And do you know where I can find a descent Glider unit?

 

[mourndraken]

timber and cedar. I like that.

How about hot air balloon instead of glider. I think I remember seeing a hot air balloon around here somewhere..

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Ok I can do that I suppose

Progress Report:

1. Permanently fixed Silent Hunter and Native Archer errors
2. Added a NEW Silent Hunter Unit(No more Impis yeah!)
3. Added the Grizzly Warrior
4. Fixed Units_32 file(correct icons for most units)
5. Fixed Unit combat values for many units
6. Added Wood and Cedar resourches. Wood is required for Totem Poles, Guards, and all Naval Units(such as Canoes and Pahrumps)


Next I shall add the Balloon Unit(What tech in the Kingdom Era should allow it?)

Let me know if theres any other suggestions in that quick mind of yours Mourndraken...by all means

 

[mourndraken]

how about a champion like Hiawatha or Quezocotl (?) who was known to many nations. a unit who can travel across borders without causing war. like an explorer. or Raven a more destructive unknown nationality unit who can wreck roads and capture workers. operates like a paratrooper.. european contact should make air units obsolete.

 

[jorde]

Let me know if theres any other suggestions in that quick mind of yours Mourndraken...by all means

Make a revision of the pre-existing resources... for example, I think wheat should be replaced with maize (or some other American crop, potato maybe?), and cattle should be replaced with buffalo (the icon could be the one from Civ II)
And make the Civilopedia clearer for these resources... It's weird seeing in one place Wines are available with some tech, and reading there its available from the beginning...

And then, somehow I kinda dislike the fact that Silent Hunters are invisible... It just sucks when a rival settler "commits suicide" attacking your SH...

I think I had a couple of extra suggestions, but those are the ones I can remember ATM

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

The idea with the Silent Hunter unit was to promote more strategic warfare. Sneak attacks were a staple of Native American warfare as well.

Maize is already in the mod actually. As for Bison...I agree but I lack the ability to create Unit_32 files and anything similiar, like Resource icon sheets(Believe me...i've tried, Windows Paint just doesn't work)

Ok the Balloon is in.., next comes some new UU's for the civs that didn't have any or could use another(The Inuit should have a Dog Sled, its not right that they don't)

 

[Rob (R8XFT)]

I've done an updated resources pcx that you can use. In case you don't know, you need to first of all add the resource under the "natural resources" tab, but you also need to click on the "terrain" tab and highlight the resource in each terrain type that you want it to appear. You'll see what I mean when you go into the editor.

The new resources (in the order they appear) are bison, wood, clay, cotton, sugar, coffee, tobacco, crab, moose and poppy
You'll have to rename the file to "resources.pcx"
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/resources1.pcx

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Thankyou R8XFT. Its good to know I've got someone I can count on.

BTW R8XFT....your pretty good at the Leaderhead creation thing...ever think about branching off and trying your hand at unit creation? I myself am interested in learning.

BTW ALL: Is it ok if the Inuit's Dog Sled unit has orcs on it(Not noticably except for the civilipedia icon) I'm using Embyrodead's Wolf Chariot unit...since thats the closest thing out there to an actual Dog Sled...

 

[Rob (R8XFT)]

BTW R8XFT....your pretty good at the Leaderhead creation thing...ever think about branching off and trying your hand at unit creation? I myself am interested in learning.

I've thought about it, and might do it in the future, but for now, I want to concentrate on leaderheads.
I therefore can't do the Haida galley for you , but I'm sure that Aaglo will pick up the challenge soon. After all, it will be something a little different from his other naval units and, if he does it, I'm sure it will be brilliant.

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

You thought I was asking you! Oh well. I really hope Aaglo picks the Haida Galley up. BTW I thought your mod was going to replace ALL the civs with new ones...but Byzantium is still there(Although with Justinian rather than his wife as the leader). What civs are going to be in the R8XFT mod?

I'm currently using Polynesia(Sween's Masked leaderhead of coarse), Nubia, Khymer, Brazil, Ethiopia and Israel as new civs(Still waiting for Rita Poon's Israeli leaderhead).

 

[mourndraken]

awesome. could add salt and limestone as luxuries. I think wood should be called timber or add bamboo for the tropics. anyways keep up the great work.

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

There is no Bamboo in the Americas silly. Thats an asian plant.

Well noone seems to mind if Orcs fill in for Inuits in the Dog Sled unit(see my above post). Guess its in then...

Any other tribes in need of a UU?

 

[mourndraken]

like i was saying.. oops

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Its not a problem Mourndraken. Tommorow I'll finish up work on unit and resourse additions....then I'll begin the task of bug screening.

 

[mourndraken]

introduce shaman unit who can attack any land unit without causing automatic war . they are appointed by the tribe to test outsiders in any way they choose. shaman are guided by the life cycle and are beyond retribution and not accountable for the destruction they cause. during ritual war, they can be attacked by other units without causing a war but are not neutral. not sure if this kind of rule is even possible.. if shaman attacks become too much then its time to teach your neighbor a lesson.. bring out the war drums, declare war and destroy them.

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Currently Shaman have the enslave ability, but do not have the hidden nationality ability. I think your idea is interesting though.

 

[mourndraken]

There is a book by Gary Jennings called Aztec. In it he describes a vivid picture of the Aztec in their prime and into their quick destruction. The main character is a traveller and trader. there are different types of dyes and trade. after I read it I was dreaming in Aztec for a while.. he has another about the time of Theodoric the Great, called Raptor.

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

MournDraken:Thanks for the book recommendation...I ought to check that one out sometime.

Progress Report:

1. Added Dog Sled Inuit UU
2. Changed Cattle to Buffalo using R8XFT's new resource icon sheet.


Once again...any late game bugs?

 

[mourndraken]

about the shaman and silent hunter thing:
give the option to make nationally hidden versions or normal versions. perhaps with different shield cost .. would be cool to be able to engage in ritual war without a full war response .. anyways keep up the great work.

BTW. Burry My Heart at Wounded Knee is another interesting book.

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Ive had bad expierences with Hidden Nationality land units in the past(on the receiving end its not very fun).