Need Help for Diplo Win

[Hawk Chieftain]

I have a few questions for anyone lurking:
How can I get Orleans to keep growing? I need it to keep growing so I can get The Great Lighthouse.
Is it alright that I researched Code of Laws & Philosophy after Map Making?
Should I go for Literature next so I can start The Great Library?
Or should I go right for Republic?

 

[wntrmute]

I would lean towards going Republic quickly so you can maintain a decent tech lead. Does the slingshot work in PTW? I think that's a Conquests thing.

I would have mined those grasslands around Orleans, since you can't get 3 food on that land until you leave despotism. At least mine the remaining Grasslands that haven't been irrigated yet. Mining bonus grassland would get you 2 shields and 2 food, so I would suggest doing that even if that means undoing the irrigation. Keep a 2 food surplus to grow Orleans as fast as it can. Without a food bonus (Fish, Cows, or Wheat) or two that will be as good as you will get.
There seems to be a plins in Orleans' radius, too, irrigating that will get you another shield. Don't put any production on the hill yet if you want to grow, and use the luxury slider to keep people happy instead of buying clowns.
I think in Chieftan, if you have 2 MP's, you can have 6 content people, but the 7th is unhappy, so watch out for that when Orleans gets close to growing. Lux slider would be your friend there, I think.
Be careful, though, when you do revolt if you go to Republic, since you will lose the MP happiness, and if you have a lot of irrigated grassland, your cities may grow too fast for you to manage happiness.

Take all this with a grain of salt, I'm still trying to win at Regent.

 

[Capt Buttkick]

Orleans: only thing I can think of is you have micromanaged the city to work two 1-shield, 1-food tiles. That seems to fit with the number of turns needed for the GLight to finish.
Like wntrmute said, don't irrigate grasslands before you're out of despotism (unless they also have a food resource). They'll still only yield 2 food.

A few general tips:
1) Lyons was imhso very well placed. You play PTW, which means you should take advantage of the RCP strategy (or loophole or exploit, whatever ). Afaics, RCP = 4 seems to be ideal here. See dot map for my proposed city placement at RCP=4.

If you don't know what RCP is, you should read this .
2) CoL --> Philo --> Rep would be my choice even before Maps, but that's pretty much down to personal preferences, I guess...
3) You seem to have a bad case of Wonder Addiction You don't have to build every wonder in every game. The Pyramids, for instance, are pretty useless in this game (like Queen of Swords said) since you're on such a small island.
4) There is more land to the west of Marseille. You can tell by the strip of light blue that indicates coast, just on the edge of the FoW.
5) There's too much unimproved land around Paris. I'd take care of that, even before I would mine around Orleans.

 

[Theryman]

Great Library on Cheiftan Level? You are kidding. You will not be able to get to the UN if you let the AI research for you.

 

[wntrmute]

The great lighthouse.
Well, the good lighthouse.
Well, it's ok.

 

[Marsden]

One thing I can add to the theory on diplomatic victory is know how many votes you need, then pick a few AI to be your "enemies" and beat on them and frequently have the others, your "friends" join in. Just try to make sure the friends always outnumber the enemies and you should be fine. It also helps that you pick the biggest strongest AI as your main enemy, as they will likely be your opponent and AI never votes against itself.

 

[Hawk Chieftain]

Turn 61 (1500 BC)
-Tours riots. Hire a taxman. Lower Science to 40%.Raise luxury to 40%. Philosophy in 1 turn
Galley is lost
Worker stack near Paris mines
Worker stack near Orleans changes tile from irrigation to mine
Worker roads near Tours
Change Lyons from Worker to Warrior
Philosophy done. Start The Republic (36 turns)
Raise Science to 80%, luxury to 10%. The Republic in 20 turns

Turn 62 (1475 BC)
Lyons-Warrior<Galley (5 turns)
Besancon-Warrior<Granary (30 turns)
Worker stack roads on cow near Tours
Warrior fortifies in Besancon
Move Warrior from Lyons towards Orleans
Worker stack near Paris moves SE

Turn 63 (1450 BC)
Worker stack near Paris mines
Warrior fortifies in Orleans. The Great Lighthouse in 43 turns.
Worker stack near Orleans moves S, changes tile from irrigation to mine
Worker stack near Tours finishes road, mines cow

Turn 64 (1425 BC)
Marseilles-Galley<Galley (4 turns)
Galley heads W, finds Indians
India has BW, WC, CB & 38 gold.
Trade Writing & Masonry & BW, WC, CB, & 25 gold
Trade Iron Working & Territory Map for Code of Laws
They have 6 towns w/4 Incense
Worker stack near Paris finishes mine
Worker stack near Tours finishes mine, moves to 2nd cow

Turn 65 (1400 BC)
Chartres- Galley<Swordsman (5 turns). There is iron next to Paris.
Galley out of Chartres moves S
Worker stack near Paris move NE, N, start mine
Worker stack near Orleans move SW, start irrigation
Worker stack near Tours mine on 2nd cow
Galley near India moves N, they have iron, not hooked up

Turn 66 (1375 BC)
Tours- Granary<Swordsman (4 turns)
Orleans worker stack irrigate plains
Chartres galley moves SE
Rouen founded. Start Granary (30 turns)
Move fortified Warrior in Rouen
India galley moves N, it looks like they are either on an island also, or they are on the tip of a continent
Raise science to 90%, The Republic in 11 turns

Turn 67 (1350 BC)
Paris-Granary<Settler (3 turns)
Chartres riots. Hire a taxman. Tried to adjust luxury, but it does no good
Lyons- Galley<Galley (5 turns)
Chartres galley goes around southern part of France
Move Tours workers to 3rd cow
Fire a clown in Orleans. Growth in 5 turns
Orleans worker stack move NE, mine
Lyons galley move N
India galley move N

Turn 68 (1325 BC)
India is building The Pyramids
Chartres Galley move NE
Tours workers mine 3rd cow
Paris workers mine
Lyons Galley moves NW, finds island w/cow & fish
Marseilles- Galley<Swordsman (4 turns)
Marseilles Galley move SW

Turn 69 (1300 BC)
Lose Lyons Galley & Marseilles Galley
Tours- Swordsman<Swordsman (3 turns)
Tours workers finish mine, move S
Chartres galley moves E, finds another civ
India Galley moves SW

Turn 70 (1275 BC)
Avignon- Granary<Worker (2 turns). Now size 4, growth in 1 turn
Lose Chartres Galley
Switch Tours from Swordsman to Galley (2 turns)
Tours workers mine
Paris workers road
Paris-Settler<Swordsman (3 turns)
Settler goes NW
Orleans workers replace irrigation with mine
India Galley SW

Turn 71 (1250 BC)
Chartres- Swordsman<Galley (5 turns)
Paris workers SW
Settler NW above Lyons
Tours workers finish mine, road
Orleans workers NE
Trade Philo to India for WM & 20 gold
India is on an island. Maybe I should invade them?

Turn 72 (1225 BC)
Lyons- Galley<Spearman (4 turns)
Marseilles-Swordsman<Swordsman (4 turns)
Avignon- Worker<Worker (2 turns)
Tours- Galley<Barracks (4 turns)
Tours Galley move E
Tours workers move W of Tours
Orleans workers finish mine, move SW
Have a stack of Swordsman near Marseilles
India Galley S

Turn 73 (1200 BC)
India Galley lost
Paris- Swordsman<Swordsman (3 turns)
Paris workers mine
Orleans workers mine
Tours workers mine
Avignon worker mines
Tours Galley finds Korea
Trade Contact w/Indians for Contact w/Chinese, The Wheel, & 5 gold
Trade Philo & Code of Laws for WM, Territory Map, and Contact w/Japanese

Turn 74 (1175 BC)
Japan wants to trade Territory maps. Change that to trade Territory Map & Writing for WM, Territory Map, & 19 gold
Trade Writing, WM, Territory Map, & 50 gold for Mysticism & Territory Map
Avignon- Worker<Galley (5 turns)
Tours workers finish mine
Paris workers finish mine, moves SE
Tours Galley N

Turn 75 (1150 BC)
Tours Galley lost
Paris- Swordsman<Spearman (2 turns)
Tours workers S
Avignon workers roads
Lower Science to 30%, raise luxury to 50%, The Republic in 1 turn
36 gold, +2gpt

Turn 76 (1125 BC)
The Republic is done. Mathematics in 6 turns
Change Science to 80%, luxury to 10%. Math in 4 turns
Tours- Barracks<Harbor (7 turns)
Lyons- Spearman<Granary (10 turns)
Settler & Spearman board galley
Galley moves NW
Marseilles-Swordsman<Swordsman (4 turns)
Chartres- Galley<Galley (5 turns)
Paris workers mine
Paris- Spearman<Temple (3 turns)
Orleans workers finish mine
Tours workers mine

Turn 77 (1100 BC)
Orleans workers SE
Paris workers finishes road, moves on horse
Tours workers S
Galley 1 turn away from island w/cow

Turn 78 (1075 BC)
Avignon- Galley<Worker (1 turn)
Orleans workers finish mine
Spear & Settler unloaded on island
Move Science to 50%, luxury to 30%, Math still in 2 turns

Turn 79 (1050 BC)
Paris- Temple<Spearman (1 turn)
Avignon-Worker<Worker (2 turns)
Grenoble founded. Start Granary (30 turns)
Paris workers road
Avignon workers road
Tours workers mine
Trade Code of Laws to Chinese for WM & 60 gold

Turn 80 (1025 BC)
Math done. Start Currency (9 turns)
Paris workers finish mine, move NW
Paris- Spearman<Cat (1 turn)
Marseilles- Swordsman<Swordsman (4 turns)
100 gold, 0gpt

 

[Queen of Swords]

You could get incense by either settling on India Island (they've left nice gaps) or attacking India. If you have enough units, you could try an attack; hopefully the Indians haven't discovered Chivalry yet.

 

[AutomatedTeller]

I downloaded the 1025 save. You don't have to worry about the indians having chivalry, of course - they don't even have the wheel.

I am confused as to why you are still in despotism when you know republic.

I wouldn't bother with the granary in lyons - make it a harbor or a galley.

You are also running 30% luxury, and I don't think you need it. paris should probably keep running settlers.

It may make sense to put a town in between Pusan and Osaka so you can build a harbor and trade for silks - the AI won't build a harbor for at least 1000 years, if not more.

You should probably research literature at least reasonably soon - libraries are key to a fast research game, especially since you have a couple of gold resources you can use.

 

[Queen of Swords]

I downloaded the 1025 save. You don't have to worry about the indians having chivalry, of course - they don't even have the wheel.

My bad. I'm used to Emperor-level games where the AIs research faster than I do.

 

[Hawk Chieftain]

AT- I haven't revolted to The Republic yet b/c I want to finish The Great Lighthouse first. I'll switch Lyons to galley like you suggested.
I'll try an attack on India. Will that hurt my reputation? Should I raze any Indian towns? Or should I just take over the whole Indian island?

 

[Theryman]

To hell with your reputation. You will not need to be trading for anything since it is Cheiftan, and if the other civs have something you want, you can take it. What are they going to do about it?

THe trick to winnning a Diplomatic victory is be mean as hell until the turn before you hold elections. Then buy everyones votes.

 

[AutomatedTeller]

I can understand waiting... but you aren't going to lose the wonder, and republic is much better for research and growth. and the more cities you have, the longer your chaos is.

 

[Queen of Swords]

Should I raze any Indian towns?

Depends on whether you anticipate them flipping back or not. If you feel you have sufficient culture and sufficient garrisons to hold them, keep them. But I'd definitely put another city to take full advantage of all that incense - otherwise an AI may fill the gap instead.

 

[Hawk Chieftain]

Turn 81 (1000BC)
Indians are building The Colosseus
Switch Lyons to Galley (1 turn)
Paris- Cat<Cat (1 turn)
Chartres- Galley<Galley (4 turns)
Avignon- Worker<Harbor (10 turns)
Paris workers move NE, E
Chartres galley move toward Marseilles
Avignon workers mine, then start road
Tours workers road
Orleans workers start mine
Move 2 Galleys w/4 Swordsman over to India between Kolhapur & Karachi
Lower luxury to 10%. Currency in 8 turns
100 gold, +12gpt

Turn 82 (975 BC)
Paris- Cat<Cat (1 turn)
Lyons- Galley<Galley (4 turns)
Avignon workers finish road
Tours workers move SE
Move Science to 90%, Currency in 4 turns
Trade Mysticism to Japan for 4 gold
112 Gold, -6gpt

Turn 83 (950 BC)
Orleans riots. Buy 2 taxmen
Tours- Harbor<Galley (3 turns)
Paris- Cat<Settler (2 turns)
Load 2 Cats, 3 Swords, & 1 Spear into Galley, move to India
Paris workers finish road
Avignon workers finish mine
Tours workers finish mine

Turn 84 (925 BC)
Besancon- Granary<Harbor (20 turns)
Marseilles- Sword<Sword (4 turns)
Load Cat & Spear into Galley to India
Paris workers mine cow
Avignon workers finish road, move E
Tours workers finish road, now Rouen is hooked up
Orleans workers move S

Turn 85 (900 BC)
Paris- Settler<Settler (5 turns)
The Great Lighthouse is completed
Orleans starts Harbor (5 turns)
Chartres- Galley<Galley (4 turns)
Switch to Anarchy for 5 turns
Move 2 Cats & 2 Spears into stack, 7 swords into another stack
Orleans, Tours, & Avignon workers mine
96 gold, +6gpt

Turn 86 (875 BC)
Orleans, Lyons, Marseilles, Besancon, Avignon, Chartres, & Tours all riot
Paris workers start irrigation next to cow

Turn 87 (850 BC)
Avignon workers start mine
Trade Math to China for WM & 30 gold
Trade Math to India for 65 gold (all they have)

Turn 88 (825 BC)
Mob at Chartres destroys Granary. Buy a taxman. Switch to Granary.
Buy a clown at Tours
Buy a taxman at Besancon, Avignon, Lyons, & Marseilles
Buy 2 taxmen at Orleans
Paris workers irrigate

Turn 89 (800 BC)
Paris riots, buy a taxman
Order is restored in towns

Turn 90 (775 BC)
Order restored in Paris.
Switch to The Republic
Declare war on India
Move Cat stack SE to Kolhapur
Move Sword stack S

Turn 91 (750 BC)
Currency done. Start Lit in 4 turns
Korea start The Oracle
Lyons- Galley<Sword (5 turns)
Tours- Galley<Galley (3 turns)
Cats kill 1 citizen in Kolhapur
Sword stack S
Paris workers start mine
Fire a taxman in Chartres
194 gold, -43gpt

Turn 92 (730 BC)
Paris- Settler<Marketplace
Sword kills Indian Spear, promoted to Elite
Kolhapur is destroyed, take 1 gold
Orleans workers move SW to cow
Cat stack move S
Science move to 30%, Lit still in 3 turns
Gift Math to Korea & Japan, they are now polite
152 gold, +4 gpt

Turn 93 (710BC)
Indians building The Oracle
Galley is lost
Marseilles- Sword<Sword (3 turns)
Settler & Sword unload onto old Kolhapur
Orleans workers move W

Turn 94 (680 BC)
Avignon- Harbor<Sword (2 turns)
Tours- Galley<Galley (3 turns)
Cat & Sword stack move S
Dijon founded. Start Barracks (10 turns)
Paris workers move NE
Orleans workers irrigate, start road

Turn 95 (650 BC)
Lit done. Start Horseback Riding (4 turns)
Orleans- Harbor<Marketplace (7 turns)
Rouen- Granary<Spear (5 turns)
Lyons- Sword<Sword (4 turns)
Cats hit Indian Spear at Delhi
Sword stack move SW
Trade Lit to Korea for Horseback, WM, & 1 gold
Trade Lit to China for WM & 20 gold
Construction started (13 turns)

Turn 96 (630 BC)
Paris- Marketplace<Horseman (2 turns)
Marseilles- Sword<Sword (3 turns)
Avignon- Sword<Horseman (2 turns)
Increase science to 50%, Construction in 5 turns
3 Indian Spears killed, Delhi is captured w/1 gold
Start Granary in Delhi (30 turns)
Orleans workers irrigate cow
Delhi riots, buy 2 clowns
Orleans riots, buy 2 taxmen
Sword kills Indian Warrior, capture settler
Send Cats & Swords S
Send Settler in India towards Dijon
Turn 97 (610 BC)
Chartres- Granary<Spear (3 turns)
Korea starting The Great Library
Paris- Horseman<Horseman (1 turn)
Orleans workers finish road
Avignon workers irrigate 1st cow neat Tours
Avignon- Horseman<Horseman (2 turns)
Indian Archer kills Sword, captures 2 workers
Trade Currency to Korea for WM & 30 gold
Gift Map Making to Japan

Turn 98 (590 BC)
Grenoble riots. Buy 2 Taxmen
Lyons- Sword<Spear (3 turns)
Paris- Horseman<Horseman (1 turn)
Kill 3 Indian Spears, capture Bangalore, 1 gold & 2 workers
Bangalore- start Spear (10 turns)
Tours workers irrigate 2nd cow
2 Swords unloaded near Dijon

Turn 99 (570 BC)
2 Horse protect Dijon
Send 2 Swords & Cats into Delhi to rest
Paris- Horse<Horse (1 turn)
Increased luxury to 70%, Science down to 30%
Construction in 2 turns
Avignon- Horse<Marketplace (7 turns)
Rouen- Spear<Horse (8 turns)

Turn 100 (550 BC)
We Love The Saint Day in many towns
Galley is lost
Tours- Galley<Marketplace (9 turns)
Horses kill 2 Indian Warriors
Paris- Horse<Library (3 turns)
Chartres-Spear<Spear (3 turns)
Irrigation near Besarcon
Move Cats & Swords out of Delhi
Decrease Science to 10%, luxury at 60%
Construction in 1 turn
103 Gold, -29 gpt

 

[AutomatedTeller]

why are you losing galleys? Are they exploration galleys? or ones carrying the fight to the indians?

and 60% luxuries will really slow down your research! I assume you are running into a situation where reasonably corrupt towns are rioting?

A better way of dealing with that is specialists and drop your lux tax down to what is needed to keep the core of the empire happy.

edit: I noted that you were ratcheting down science as you got nearer the end and ratcheting up luxes, i assume to help with score.

I wouldn't worry about that - money is becoming important, since you can now use it to rush things like libraries. Probably the most important structure you can have for a diplo win is a library (and later a university) in at least your core cities, because it has a large impact on your ability to research fast... and researching fast is what it's all about!!

 

[Hawk Chieftain]

AT- The only galleys I've been losing are for exploration.
I've raised the luxury slider to offset riots, and I've tried to raise it only right before learning a tech. I think that once I conquer Indian towns that have incense nearby, the rioting should slow down. I will try to use specialists more now instead of moving the luxury slider. And, I try to remember rushing libraries. Thanks.

 

[Hawk Chieftain]

Turn 101 (530 BC)
Horse kills Indian archer
Construction done. Polytheism in 14 turns
Palace expands
Lyons- Spear<Library (10 turns)
Marseilles- Sword<Library (6 turns)
Unloaded 3 Horses & 1 Sword on India
Orleans workers finish road
Tours workers finish road
Lowered luxury to 10%, raised science to 30%
Poly in 6 turns
74 gold. +11gpt

Turn 102 (510 BC)
Indians offer peace, rejected
Delhi riots, buy 5 taxmen, no production
Orleans- Marketplace<Library (5 turns)
Tours riots, buy 2 taxman
Dijon- Barracks<Spear (4 turns)
Attack on Calcutta, 2 Swords lost, kill 2 Indian spears
Move 2 Swords next to Calcutta
Trade The Republic to Korea & China for WM & 20 gold each
Increased science to 40%, Poly in 4 turns
125 gold, +4 gpt

Turn 103 (490 BC)
Paris- Library<Horse (1 turn)
Order restored in Delhi & Tours
Chartres- Spear<Library (10 turns)
Calcutta is taken, 1 sword killed, 1 Indian Spear killed, took 3 gold & 2 workers
Incense can be used in Delhi
Start a Granary in Calcutta (30 turns)
Fortify Sword & Cat stack in Calcutta
Unload Sword & Spear in India
Workers mine near Besancon
Rush a library at Marseilles for 104 gold
28 gold, +4 gpt

Turn 104 (470 BC)
Orleans riots, buy 3 taxmen
Forest cleared by Lyons, 10 shields
Marseilles- Library<Sword (3 turns)
Besancon- Harbor<Library (10 turns)
Send 3 swords towards Madras, their new capital
Unload 2 Spears in India
Send 6 Horses NW from Dijon
Workers replace mine with irrigation near Avignon

Turn 105 (450 BC)
Poly done. Enter into the Middle Ages
Start Feudalism (13 turns). Science at 30%
Calcutta riots, buy a taxman
Avignon- Marketplace<Library (5 turns)
Paris-Horse<Horse (1 turn)
Palace expands
Move 2 Spears toward Calcutta
Workers complete road to Dijon, move N to Game
Lose 4 Horses to 1 Indian Spear at Bombay
Workers finish road near Lyons
29 gold, +16 gpt

Turn 106 (420 BC)
Galley is lost
Paris- Horse<Horse (1 turn)
Dijon- Spear<Harbor (14 turns)
Spear fortifies in Calcutta, send 1 Sword toward Madras
Send 2 Swords S of Dijon
Unload Spear & Horse in India
Workers irrigate near Chartres

Turn 107 (410 BC)
Paris & Orleans riots, buy 2 taxmen each
Lyons, Marseilles, Chartres, Avignon, Besancon riots, buy a taxman each
Japan is building The Oracle
Rouen- Horse<Library (20 turns)
Spear fortified in Dijon
Battle of Madras, lost 2 Swords, killed 2 Indian spears
Fortified Spear in Calcutta
Unloaded 2 Horses in India
Gifted Construction to Korea, they are now Polite
Traded HBR to Japan for WM & 1 gold (all they have)
Trade Poly to China for WM & 8 gold
Increase Science to 40%, Feudal in 9 turns
73 gold, +3 gpt

Turn 108 (390 BC)
Paris restored. Horse<Horse (1 turn)
Marseilles restored. Sword<Harbor (6 turns)
All other towns restored
Battle of Madras, killed Indian Spear, town destroyed
Bangalore- Spear<Granary (30 turns)
Lose 2 Horses at Bombay

Turn 109 (370 BC)
Indian archer redlines a Horse near Bombay
Unload a Horse & Spear in India
Paris- Horse<Horse (1 turn)
Kill Indian Archer, lose 1 Sword near Hyderabad

Turn 110 (350 BC)
Orleans- Library<Galley (3 turns)
Lyons- Library<Granary (15 turns)
Paris-Horse<Horse (1 turn)
Move Settler & Spear toward what was Madras
Unload 2 Horses in India
Worker clear forest near Lyons, 10 shields

 

[Hawk Chieftain]

Turn 111 (330 BC)
Paris- Horse<Horse (1 turn)
Tours- Marketplace<Library (7 turns)
Fortify Sword in Calcutta to rest
Move Settler & Spear to where Madras was
Battle of Hyderabad- kill 1 Indian Spear, lose 2 Swords
Take Sword out of Calcutta, loses to red-lined Indian Warrior
Bring 2 Horses from Dijon to defend Delhi
Move Horse & Worker stack to E of Bombay
Mine mountain near Paris
Move horse from Paris to Galley
Rush library at Chartres for 48 gold
Trade Lit to Japan for WM & 4 gold
42 gold, +5 gpt

Turn 112 (310 BC)
Paris- Horse<Horse (1 turn)
Chartres- Library<Sword (4 turns)
Move 2 Horses to S of Calcutta
Move Horse out of Dijon to NE of Calcutta
Orleans workers mine gold
Move Horse from Paris to galley
Unload 2 Horses into India
Workers start road E of Bombay
Amiens founded. Start Barracks (20 turns). Fortify Spear.
Lose Sword at Hyderabad
Trade Construction to China for WM & 11 gold
Rush Library at Besancon for 48 gold
10 gold, +6gpt

Turn 113 (290 BC)
Paris- Horse<Horse (1 turn)
Avignon- Library<Sword (3 turns)
Besancon- Library<Marketplace (13 turns)
Orleans- Galley<Galley (2 turns)
Move 2 Horses down to Calcutta
Move Galley w/2 Horses to India
Workers chop forest near Lyons
Fire clown at Bangalore
Fire taxman at Calcutta
16 gold, +2gpt

Turn 114 (270 BC)
Paris riots. Buy a taxman.
Delhi, Lyons, Marseilles, Calcutta, Dijon riots. Buy a clown each.
Orleans riots. Buy 2 clowns & a taxman.
Tours, Chartres riots. Buy 2 taxmen.
Avignon, Besancon riots. Buy 2 clowns.
Grenoble riots. Buy 3 clowns.
Lower Science to 20%, Feudalism in 2 turns
Unload 2 Horses in India
Move workers away from Bombay
18 gold, +10gpt

Turn 115 (250 BC)
Delhi restored. Granary finished. Start Barracks (20 turns)
Marseilles restored. Harbor finished. Start Sword (3 turns)
Grenoble restored. Granary finished. Start Worker (5 turns)
All other towns restored.
Move 2 Horses down to Calcutta
Move workers from Dijon to lake near Delhi
Trade Code of Laws to Japan for WM & 4 gold
32 gold, +7 gpt

Turn 116 (230 BC)
Feudalism done. Start Monotheism (31 turns)
Paris- Horse<Mace (2 turns)
Trade Feudalism, WM, 39 gold, & 5gpt to Japan for Engineering
Trade Feudalism to China for WM & 18 gold
Replace mine w/irrigation near Delhi
Monotheism in 24 turns
18 gold, +5 gpt

Turn 117 (210 BC)
Orleans- Galley<Galley (3 turns)
Indian Warrior red-lines Horse near Hyderabad
Battle of Hyderabad- Indian Spear & Warrior killed, lose 1 Horse
Hyderabad destroyed. 1 gold taken.
Battle of Bombay- 1 Indian Spear killed, 1 Horse lost
24 gold, +7 gpt

Turn 118 (190 BC)
Lyons- Granary<Marketplace (13 turns)
Paris- Mace<Settler (2 turns)
Chartres- Mace<Mace (4 turns)
Galley lost
Move red-lined Horses to Calcutta
Move other Horses S towards Jaipur
Workers finish irrigation on cow near Delhi

Turn 119 (170 BC)
Koreans building Sun Tzu’s
Marseilles- Mace<Mace (4 turns)
Avignon- Mace<Aqueduct (9 turns)
Bring 3 Mace & 1 Horse onto Galleys toward India

Turn 120 (150 BC)
Korean Galley enters French territory
Tours- Library<Courthouse (5 turns)
Grenoble- Worker<Library (40 turns)
Paris- Settler<Mace (2 turns)
Orleans- Galley<Galley (3 turns)
Delhi riots. Buy a clown.
Load 2 workers onto Galley
Unload 3 Mace & 1 Horse in India
Monotheism in 17 turns
42 gold, -1gpt

 

[Hawk Chieftain]

Some questions for lurkers:
How can I get my mainland cities to use the Incense on India? I've built a Harbor on both sides, but none of my French cities have access to Incense.

Where should I explore next? I know that there are other civs out there, but I haven't found them yet.

Other than military, what should I have my cities build? I almost have all of French cities have built libraries. Is there anything critical I need to build?

What should I research next? I'm thinking of going for The Sistine Chapel.