Need some ideas for a 2nd UU

GeoModder said:
For France, why not a Francisca wielding unit? The so-called throwing axe?
But I suppose there's no existing animation for that.
But in case that's not a problem, either the axeman or the archer could be the second UU then.
As axeman, a first strike would seem appropriate. As archer replacement I'd say an extra strength point.

For Sumeria the 4-wheeled cart pulled by onagers comes to mind. Perhaps used as a chariot which doesn't require horses? And IIRC there's a donkey sort of horse somewhere in the database.
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Interestingly enough, a Francesca was my first idea for a French UU. It was to be an Axe replacement, with first strikes and a possible + vs archers. But the i kind of hit a wall, as there was no axe throwing animation, and there wasn't one in the database. I might just use a Francesca though.
 
Flintlock1415 said:
Maybe if you slightly modified the skirmisher animations so that the Francesca rotated when it was thrown, that would be awesome.
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Too bad i have no idea how to edit animations beyond visibility flags (and even that is hard for me).


EDIT: Although a skirmisher based Francesca is a good idea, i'll consider making one, probably by using the Gallic Warrior's axe.
 
An idea I have for the francisca unit that may not work, it would involve a little animation editing.
BAsicly you make the axe on the gallic warrior you see at rest reduce down in combat, and when combat starts, the axe becomes an effect that you set to bprojectile. Might be simpler to make it into an angon because the Angon would look like a shorter and thicker skirmisher spear.
 
Rome can get the Da vinci Tank.
 
England will either have the Spitfire or a naval UU.After watching a show on the 100 years war, english longbows seem good, but i want a navl uu to show their dominance on the seas.

Russia gets the Su-47. America gets the minuteman. As for the Eagle warrior, that's better than my current idea, so that's implemented. The donkey-chariot for Sumer is great.


Also, if you make a suggestion, can you please direct me to some kind of link? Whether to a unit already made, or to what they are (wikipedia or something) or a picture or at least a description of what they could do.
 
Ajidica said:
Nitpicking, but if you have time you might want to reskin it and get rid of the plate armour, the Byzantines primarily used lamellar/scale mail for their heavy troops. Plate was primarily used by the later merc (post-komnenian) and the Foederati (refering to Justinian era I am assuming) were armoured in the same way as other bysantine troops. Chain mail with and iron helmet and linked iron greaves.(Greaves were ditched for melee combat though.)

EDIT: It sounds cool though.
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How's this unit?
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I thought about the scales for a while and used the clone-stamp tool to copy the horses's armor onto the foederati's dds file.
For the button, i opened the CKN's button and layered the warrior's head and knight's sword over it.

I modified the knights-templar kfm to use the warrior's idle and the swordsman's fidget.



EDIT: I have decided to make the Iroqouis uu a tomahawk, which will use the same kfm as my Francesca unit.
 
Very nice, I think it will likely end up in Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire.
 
mechaerik said:
England will either have the Spitfire or a naval UU.After watching a show on the 100 years war, english longbows seem good, but i want a navl uu to show their dominance on the seas.
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Then the HMS Dreadnaught from this download (better textures) seems the obvious choice, since the British revoluzionised naval warfare with this design.

I wouldn't use the Spitfire as UU. The plane had too many opponents in the "best stuff" department of the time.
 
i was thinking more oof a Colonial era ship.

Also, the more i think about ... Ethiopia. I have an idea but i don't really like it.
 
mechaerik said:
Holy Rome
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Since many Holy Roman Empire cities are the Czech cities, how about Wagenburg?
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They were quite popular during the Hussite Wars and a very unique method of fighting (then).

It would replace either Crossbowman or Musketman and probably have some sort of extra defensive bonuses. Either versus, say, cavalry (the most popular enemy of those mobile wagon forts) or simply 1 more strenght at all.

Honestly, idea of this unit being UU of HRE is quite twisted, but it's not me who put the Prague or Pilzen in the HRE cities list :P
 
Flying Pig said:
I like the idea of the Teutonic Knights, which were Holy Roman and managed to conquer a lot of the Baltic.
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Aye, I was thinking about those as well for the HRE, but since it was yet another chivalric order, like Order of Santiago, Knights Hospitaller or Knights Templar I've discarded the idea :)
They were knights. There are knights in Civ already.

Here's an polish king and lithuanian grand duke from the 1410 Battle of Grunwald (against the Teutonic Order). The only difference between those opponents are coat of arms colors :)

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kooboo said:
Since many Holy Roman Empire cities are the Czech cities, how about Wagenburg?
Hussite_Wars.jpg


They were quite popular during the Hussite Wars and a very unique method of fighting (then).

It would replace either Crossbowman or Musketman and probably have some sort of extra defensive bonuses. Either versus, say, cavalry (the most popular enemy of those mobile wagon forts) or simply 1 more strenght at all.

Honestly, idea of this unit being UU of HRE is quite twisted, but it's not me who put the Prague or Pilzen in the HRE cities list :P
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I checked it out and it seemed interesting. I could theoretically use a wagon as part of the formation, along with a crossbow and hand cannon. I'll consider it.
 
Having Hussite War wagons for the HRE would make them very formidable, but yes, very twisted. Then again, them having Landsknets is also slightly twisted. (Weren't they originaly Swiss pikemen? My knowledge of the late medieval isnt the greatest.)
 
Having the HRE at all is slightly twisted. The subjest states had a great deal of autonomy.
 
I still think Carolingian Knights would work well for the HRE. They carved out Charlemagnes Empire (Pyrennes, Northern Italy, and all the way to the Slavs). After Charlemagne the HRE went downhill with its emperors spending more time fighting the pope and the electorates than anyone else.
 
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