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Jason The King
Deity
To Judea
From Abbasid Caliphate
Are you crazy? Have you gone completely insane? Where do you loyalties lie, with an aggressive nation of Carthage or with your oldest ally? Even if that is not it, if you mean the Europeans are barbarians, I do not see where you are right.
The Europeans are more sophisticated then most African nations, as you see they have been much more peaceful then the Middle East and Africa. For all we know they are more peaceful then us, as we must fight of barbarian nations such as Persia who attack whenever they feel fit. To me the Europeans have proven to be kind, helpful, and reasonable to see the evils of Carthage and Iran. You also denounce another old and close ally as Greece (or Byzantine), which I for one am afraid of.
While we would very much like to side with you, you have gone insane. You being paranoid about Europeans is completely uncalled for. Give me ONE reason of how the Africans/Middle East are more civilized then the Europeans. ONE reason.
OOC: Erez, I am afraid you are bringing in real world history into account with this game, when in fact the Crusades never happened, and the Christians and Muslims and Jewish have not had anything to be mad to eachother about. Please use this game's history when making judgements, not real life history.
From Abbasid Caliphate
Are you crazy? Have you gone completely insane? Where do you loyalties lie, with an aggressive nation of Carthage or with your oldest ally? Even if that is not it, if you mean the Europeans are barbarians, I do not see where you are right.
The Europeans are more sophisticated then most African nations, as you see they have been much more peaceful then the Middle East and Africa. For all we know they are more peaceful then us, as we must fight of barbarian nations such as Persia who attack whenever they feel fit. To me the Europeans have proven to be kind, helpful, and reasonable to see the evils of Carthage and Iran. You also denounce another old and close ally as Greece (or Byzantine), which I for one am afraid of.
While we would very much like to side with you, you have gone insane. You being paranoid about Europeans is completely uncalled for. Give me ONE reason of how the Africans/Middle East are more civilized then the Europeans. ONE reason.
OOC: Erez, I am afraid you are bringing in real world history into account with this game, when in fact the Crusades never happened, and the Christians and Muslims and Jewish have not had anything to be mad to eachother about. Please use this game's history when making judgements, not real life history.
erez87
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to Abbasid Caliphate:
We are loyal to Judea more than anyone else.
And talking about europe as peacfull make us laugh.
2 wars between greece and the huns.
The roman Expansion wars, the celtic-carthage little war, the scandinavian wars and so on and on...
to Rome:
We never joined Carthage but we also do not want any borders with any europian. and we are against you religion as your religion hate us so much.
OOC in real history christianary started BECAUSE jesus died for his belifes... what happand in this world? who killed him if at all? and if no one killed him thats means that there shouldn't realy be chrisitanery, after all Jesus himself didn't wanted a new religion only to fix the problem in the Judaism...
We are loyal to Judea more than anyone else.
And talking about europe as peacfull make us laugh.
2 wars between greece and the huns.
The roman Expansion wars, the celtic-carthage little war, the scandinavian wars and so on and on...
to Rome:
We never joined Carthage but we also do not want any borders with any europian. and we are against you religion as your religion hate us so much.
OOC in real history christianary started BECAUSE jesus died for his belifes... what happand in this world? who killed him if at all? and if no one killed him thats means that there shouldn't realy be chrisitanery, after all Jesus himself didn't wanted a new religion only to fix the problem in the Judaism...
Jason The King
Deity
ooc - I didnt mean by that. But when has there been an explanation of the christians hates towards jews in ths game? hasnt yet. Your the one who brought it up. Seems like in this game the Jews hate the Christians for no reason 
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Jason The King
Deity
yes, i understand, but the christians did not express hate for the jews this time, maybe they are smarter then rl and knew that they shouldnt hate a whole race for what a couple of their ancestors did arrogantly.
.:KNAS:.
Civfanatic
It seems like only Erez and i are the ones willing to spice this up with a little religious fundamentalism... What fun is it if everyone is understanding?
Oh, and the Crusades might aswell be starting now, Byzantium invading Iran. The Franks, Romans and Germans invading Carthage. Alot of Christian nations moving in to the middle east and africa
Oh, and the Crusades might aswell be starting now, Byzantium invading Iran. The Franks, Romans and Germans invading Carthage. Alot of Christian nations moving in to the middle east and africa
Finmaster
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I agree with KNAS.
Why make NES's boring by making them be some sort of paradise versions of the real history? When I play a NES, I'd rather re-create history than create a utopia of happyness. It won't happen in Real Life, why should it happen in a NES game?
Why make NES's boring by making them be some sort of paradise versions of the real history? When I play a NES, I'd rather re-create history than create a utopia of happyness. It won't happen in Real Life, why should it happen in a NES game?
erez87
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Finmaster, becayse it CAN happan in a NES game 
We are not politicians that all the time lie lol (well maybe some of us are thos kind ) 
But I agree, without hate from time to time in a NES nothinh interesting will happan...
The hate between Zulu and china in rtor2 brought 6 world wars as each one had many allies...
We are not politicians that all the time lie lol (well maybe some of us are thos kind
) But I agree, without hate from time to time in a NES nothinh interesting will happan...
The hate between Zulu and china in rtor2 brought 6 world wars as each one had many allies...
Sgt.Hellfish
King of the Oceans
Well I myself have no particular intrest in this war other than to increase my borders. Religion just adds something to think about whilst picking allies and when the next war rolls around. In Nes's there will allways be a war somewhere or preparations for the next big battle as we have seen around European borders in this Nes. We have nothing to lose and all to gain why the hell cant we come up with stupid reasons for war? Even politicians in real life use silly excuses for war.
Jason The King
Deity
who said anything about not wanting wars and fighting an a NES? Huh? I never said anything about that. I just said to use a reason that DIDN'T happen in the game. It would be like Bush saying we're invading Iraq cus they did the same thing 100 years ago. It just didn't happen.
What makes an nes fun is the history of it. If you use the history of the NES to fuel the future, its more realisitic in the history form. You know why rtor2 lasted so long? Because people used the past history of the game for reasons in the future.
What we are doing right now, the Christians invading, this will become history, and in the future Muslim nations (and Judea) CAN use this against the Christians for hate. But for now, it is just another war against a different religion.
Jason
What makes an nes fun is the history of it. If you use the history of the NES to fuel the future, its more realisitic in the history form. You know why rtor2 lasted so long? Because people used the past history of the game for reasons in the future.
What we are doing right now, the Christians invading, this will become history, and in the future Muslim nations (and Judea) CAN use this against the Christians for hate. But for now, it is just another war against a different religion.
Jason
Jesus died on the cross to pay for our sins. If you believe that, you're free from sin and will go to the afterlife. It was predicted 500 years ago that Jesus would die like that. The Jews were just fulfilling prophecy. If they didn't kill him, someone else would.
.:KNAS:.
Civfanatic
Why cant they use it for hate now? Its now that they are invading, so they should be able to hate them. In the future, the Christian invasions will be history, and the reasons to hate (hate them in character, in this NES) will/should fade. Now when they are at war, the hate should be at an all time high.
erez87
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puglover you don't get me.
In this game world, jesus never died. so that means christianary don't supose to exist, only jedaism should be changed and be made better... Jesus said himself he is ot here to make a new religion, but after he died his "students" decided that this should be a new religion for the honor of their dead teacher...
In this game world, jesus never died. so that means christianary don't supose to exist, only jedaism should be changed and be made better... Jesus said himself he is ot here to make a new religion, but after he died his "students" decided that this should be a new religion for the honor of their dead teacher...
ok lots of diplo in one day lol, but let me clarify things:
i dunno if anyone ever read the updates, but i gave hints of the developing of christianity, so in this nes Jesus did died in the cross, and after some years christianity developed and bloosomed in much of europe .
and come on, we are doing history right now, if it was an exact copy of real history, there wouldnt be a judea, carthage, germany and everythign would be totally different, the religion factor was to spyce up the nes, after all isnt the middle ages all about religious fervor?
knas, since u are restarting as the zulu, u will start as a somewhat small nation, around other small nations and ull have to unite those tribes, just like vikings, this is done so is more realistic,
a huge power pops up in africa out of nowhere would unbalance everything , but dont worry, i will be fair jsut as i was w/ armisan.
*whats hapening in NPC world*
the arabs officially declare an allience w/ carthage
muslim religious leadership in mecca calls the peopl in abbisania to ask their govt to do peace w. cartahge.
mali officially decides to send military aid to carthage.
i dunno if anyone ever read the updates, but i gave hints of the developing of christianity, so in this nes Jesus did died in the cross, and after some years christianity developed and bloosomed in much of europe .
and come on, we are doing history right now, if it was an exact copy of real history, there wouldnt be a judea, carthage, germany and everythign would be totally different, the religion factor was to spyce up the nes, after all isnt the middle ages all about religious fervor?
knas, since u are restarting as the zulu, u will start as a somewhat small nation, around other small nations and ull have to unite those tribes, just like vikings, this is done so is more realistic,
a huge power pops up in africa out of nowhere would unbalance everything , but dont worry, i will be fair jsut as i was w/ armisan.*whats hapening in NPC world*
the arabs officially declare an allience w/ carthage
muslim religious leadership in mecca calls the peopl in abbisania to ask their govt to do peace w. cartahge.
mali officially decides to send military aid to carthage.
mmh.....i am not sure, but ill try to update tonigh.
btw, some people sent orders but edited them in diplo......so can everyone restate their orders or PM them to me? it will be better for me and help me finish the update tonight.
i also need quite a few orders
finmaster, i know u asked me to wait till monday, but try to send something, just ur orders at least
btw, some people sent orders but edited them in diplo......so can everyone restate their orders or PM them to me? it will be better for me and help me finish the update tonight.
i also need quite a few orders
finmaster, i know u asked me to wait till monday, but try to send something, just ur orders at least
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