Never before seen wonders II - Elimination Thread

[Zaarin]

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 22 (25 - 3) -- Boring.
Duomo di Milano - 27
Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 23 (22 + 1) From Wikipedia: "According to scholars it was the first cathedral built in ancient Armenia, and is considered the oldest cathedral in the world."
Hwangnyongsa - 28
Luxor Temple - 22
Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 26
Osaka Castle - 17
Royal Palace of Palenque - 23
Santuario de Las Lajas - 4
Serpent Mound - 18

 

[conorbebe]

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 22
Duomo di Milano - 27
Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 23
Hwangnyongsa - 28
Luxor Temple - 19 (22 - 3) There are other Egyptian temples I would rank above this.
Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 26
Osaka Castle - 17
Royal Palace of Palenque - 23
Santuario de Las Lajas - 4
Serpent Mound - 19 (18 + 1) Probably the only instance you'll find me voting up a mound.

 

[Guatenadian]

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 22
Duomo di Milano - 28 (27+1) An absolutely stunning Cathedral that's unique enough to warrant its own inclusion.
Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 23
Hwangnyongsa - 28
Luxor Temple - 19
Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 26
Osaka Castle - 17
Royal Palace of Palenque - 23
Santuario de Las Lajas - 1 (4 - 3) It is time for this one to die (unfortunately)
Serpent Mound - 19

 

[God of Kings]

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 22 + 1 = 23 As stated many times before
Duomo di Milano - 28
Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 23
Hwangnyongsa - 28
Luxor Temple - 19
Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 26
Osaka Castle - 17
Royal Palace of Palenque - 23
Santuario de Las Lajas - 1 - 3 = ELIMINATED Even good choices have to go
Serpent Mound - 19

 

[Xandinho]

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 23
Duomo di Milano - 28
Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 23
Hwangnyongsa - 28
Luxor Temple - 19
Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 26 + 1 = 27 We need more Egyptian wonders, and this sounds great.
Osaka Castle - 17
Royal Palace of Palenque - 23
Serpent Mound - 19 - 3 = 16 I do not see this as a better option than any other wonder on the list.

 

[Kimiimaro]

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 23
Duomo di Milano - 28
Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 23
Hwangnyongsa - 28
Luxor Temple - 19
Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 27
Osaka Castle - 17+1=18 - We don't have any wonder from Japan, and this is actually a nice choice.
Royal Palace of Palenque - 23
Serpent Mound - 16-3=13 - I tried to compare it to the rest. It failed to prove it's better than anything else from this list, so it has to go.

 

[Guandao]

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 23
Duomo di Milano - 28
Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 23
Hwangnyongsa - 28
Luxor Temple - 19
Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 27
Osaka Castle - (18-3)=15 I prefer Himeji Castle, I still don't care much for castles representing Japan in the game. I think they are better off as a unique improvement.
Royal Palace of Palenque - 23
Serpent Mound - (13+1)=14 I don't care, it represents an area of the world not yet represented in wonders. It's as old as Aristotle. Somehow, wooden buildings are considered more glorious than this. So much bias against earth wonders!

 

[luigilime]

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 23
Duomo di Milano - 28+1=29 deserving
Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 23
Hwangnyongsa - 28
Luxor Temple - 19
Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 27
Osaka Castle - 15-3=12 I prefer Himeji castle
Royal Palace of Palenque - 23
Serpent Mound - 14

 

[Manifold]

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 22 (25 - 3) -- Boring.
Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 23 (22 + 1) From Wikipedia: "According to scholars it was the first cathedral built in ancient Armenia, and is considered the oldest cathedral in the world."

Again a cathedral is the seat of one bishop. This nice cathedral is not the oldest seat of a bishop. I mean Petrus was the first bishop maybe Antioch. Petrus was not in Armenia. So this nice cathedral could not be the oldest cathedral in the world. I do not need wikipedia for this conclusion. Wikipedia is often not a safe source.

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 23
Duomo di Milano - 29
Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 23
Hwangnyongsa - 28
Luxor Temple - 19
Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 27
Osaka Castle - 12
Royal Palace of Palenque - 20 (23-3) like others here not a ww
Serpent Mound - 15 (14+1) Very famous for Native American Culture. I know this before unlike the others here.

 

[Zaarin]

Again a cathedral is the seat of one bishop. This nice cathedral is not the oldest seat of a bishop. I mean Petrus was the first bishop maybe Antioch. Petrus was not in Armenia. So this nice cathedral could not be the oldest cathedral in the world. I do not need wikipedia for this conclusion. Wikipedia is often not a safe source.

Wikipedia is a perfectly adequate source so long as one reads critically and makes sure that the article has sources; this one does. Whether Peter was a bishop outside of church tradition is open for debate. Yes, there was a patriarch in Antioch before Armenia, but NB Armenia was the first nation to adopt Christianity.

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 23
Duomo di Milano - 29
Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 24 (23 + 1) -- Ibid.
Hwangnyongsa - 28
Luxor Temple - 19
Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 27
Osaka Castle - 9 (12 - 3) -- Himeji Castle makes more sense for a Japanese castle wonder.
Royal Palace of Palenque - 20
Serpent Mound - 15

 

[Guatenadian]

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 20 (23 - 3) While this is really cool, I see this as more of a tile improvement rather than a full fledged wonder.
Duomo di Milano - 29
Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 24
Hwangnyongsa - 28
Luxor Temple - 19
Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 27
Osaka Castle - 9
Royal Palace of Palenque - 20
Serpent Mound - 16 (15 + 1) A really unique wonder compared to everything else on this list, would look really amazing in-game.

 

[Vahnstad]

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 20
Duomo di Milano - 29
Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 24
Hwangnyongsa - 28
Luxor Temple - 19
Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 27
Osaka Castle - 9 + 1 = 10 Looks great
Royal Palace of Palenque - 20
Serpent Mound - 16 - 3 = 13 Not interesting

 

[Xandinho]

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 20
Duomo di Milano - 29
Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 24
Hwangnyongsa - 28
Luxor Temple - 19
Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 27
Osaka Castle - 10 + 1 = 11 Japan urgently needs at least one wonder. Himeji Castle is more impressive than Castle Osaka does not make this unworthy to be in the game. Especially falling before some less interesting wonders on the list.
Royal Palace of Palenque - 20 - 3 = 17 Nothing against this, I've given upvote to this before, but now the list is closing. Mesoamerica already has two wonders and I want to cover other regions before. While the Pyramid of the Sun is the only wonder of this region on the top of my list of priorities, I would like to wait a while to see another wonder of this region being included.
Serpent Mound - 13

 

[Kimiimaro]

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 20
Duomo di Milano - 29
Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 24
Hwangnyongsa - 28
Luxor Temple - 19
Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 27
Osaka Castle - 11+1=12 - Not Himeji, but still beautiful.
Royal Palace of Palenque - 17
Serpent Mound - 13-3=10 - It just doesn't strike me as much as the others.

 

[Guandao]

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 20 What sort of Civilization would build this as a tile improvement? Afghanistan?
Duomo di Milano - (29-3)=26 I prefer the Duomo in Florence, which already won last round....
Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 24
Hwangnyongsa - 28
Luxor Temple - 19
Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 27
Osaka Castle - 12
Royal Palace of Palenque - 17
Serpent Mound - (10+1)=11 Still worthy of being in the game. Stone structures are overrated. It's from a underrated culture.

 

[Manifold]

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 20
Duomo di Milano - 26
Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 24
Hwangnyongsa - 25 (28-3) too many points
Luxor Temple - 19
Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 27
Osaka Castle - 12
Royal Palace of Palenque - 17
Serpent Mound - 12 (11+1) at least well known. would look good on the map

 

[luigilime]

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 20
Duomo di Milano - 26+1=27
Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 24
Hwangnyongsa - 25
Luxor Temple - 19
Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 27
Osaka Castle - 12-3=9 not particularly interesting, I think that if we should have a Japanese castle as a wonder, and we need to, then it should be Himeji and only Himeji otherwise it'll be redundant
Royal Palace of Palenque - 17
Serpent Mound - 12

 

[Zaarin]

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 20 What sort of Civilization would build this as a tile improvement? Afghanistan?

Presumably a Gandhara city-state. Though personally if we're adding city-states from the western Silk Road I'd prioritize Samarkand or some other major city of Sogdiana.

 

[Guandao]

Presumably a Gandhara city-state. Though personally if we're adding city-states from the western Silk Road I'd prioritize Samarkand or some other major city of Sogdiana.

Since there aren't multiple copies of the Bamiyan Buddhas, I think it isn't suited for a City-state improvement.

 

[Guatenadian]

Buddhas of Bamiyan - 20 What sort of Civilization would build this as a tile improvement? Afghanistan?

Well it could work for an Afghan Civ, we do after all need more Civs in South Asia rather than just India. It could also work for Kabul the same way La Venta has Olmec heads for their Suzerain bonus.

Since there aren't multiple copies of the Bamiyan Buddhas, I think it isn't suited for a City-state improvement.

There's only 17 Olmec Heads yet La Venta has it for their Suzerain Bonus so the sheer amount may not be put into consideration by developers.