New Doctor Who: The Best Monsters (Nomination Thread)

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as mentioned in another thread I have only recently been introduced to the awesomeness of The Doctor. took me a bit to watch most of seasons 1-4 by now (2005 and onwards) and I was wondering what you thought the best/scariest/most memorable "monsters" were.

daleks, sure. cybermen, found them rather bland. weeping angels IF YOU BLINK YOU DIE! OH MY GOD I JUST BLINKED! the master, the ood, a sun, kids in a gas mask (are you my mommy?), etc. so many to choose from.

nominate 4 monsters/villains/opponents only.

mine, to start off:

weeping angels
dalek
are you my mommy?
animated scarecrows
 
My favourites were:

Gas mask people
Weeping Angels
The Master
Vashta Nerada
 
I have a question about the show.

I watched the first season (I think it was the first season), and it was kinda cool.. but then second season, the doctor was all of a sudden a new actor.. that kinda put me off and I stopped watching.

But now I remember them changing the doctor again.. at some point.. does this happen every season or something? What is it, some sort of a strange British tradition? Please explain :)
 
The Doctor is a Time Lord. Time Lords have the ability to regenerate when near death. When they regenerate they get a brand new body, but also a brand new look and brand new personality. Whenever the Doctor regenerates, a new actor takes over the role. Season 1 was Christopher Eccleston, who only stayed on for one season, at which point the marvellous David Tennant took over for three seasons. After his run came to an end, the current Doctor, Matt Smith took over. Matt Smith is the 11th Doctor in the series' decades long run. It originally started after William Hartnell was getting to old to continue the roll, and the producers were looking for a way to keep the show going. Thus, regeneration and a new actor is the solution they came up with. Think of it kind of like James Bond. (and since Timothy Dalton is a Time Lord now, James Bond is thus a Time Lord)

Also, I highly recommend you watch the second season. David Tennant was amazing. (and season 3 and 4 as well)
 
I like The Wire. She's so hungry.
 
There is something so, so wrong about people talking about "seasons" of Doctor Who...

I've never thought Daleks were scary. They're just cute. In the new series, they have made them a lot more awesomely powerful; the first "new" episode with a Dalek, with Christopher Eccleston, made the Dalek just so damn awesome it was basically very cool, rather than scary per se. I especially liked the bit where someone said to it, "What are you going to do, plunger me to death?" - in reference to the fact that Daleks have what appears to be a sink plunger sticking out of their front - and the Dalek then did just that, very satisfyingly.

I think the weeping angels were the best villains I've seen on Doctor Who. They were helped by the fact that that episode was one of the best episodes of the series ever. But the invisible monster which stole the Doctor's words (in the David Tennant episode where he is stuck on a shuttle with a group of other people) was an exceptionally creepy idea, especially because it had such power over the Doctor himself. The Doctor doesn't really have any powers other than his personality, and once that's stolen, he is completely impotent.

I do remember a very scary Thing that lived in a swimming pool in one Sylvester McCoy story (the Seventh Doctor), which terrified me when I was little (ish). I also seem to recall that when said Thing was finally revealed it wasn't very scary at all. Which is always the way.

As for the succession of Doctors, canon states that a Time Lord can regenerate only twelve times. Since the Doctor is now on his eleventh incarnation, that means that in theory he should only have two more. I suspect, however, that the writers would find ways to get around this. If memory serves, the Master (the Doctor's arch-enemy, and another Time Lord) managed to get extra regenerations on various occasions.

Although I had the misfortune to grow up with Doctor Who during the Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy years, I do think that David Tennant was the best Doctor ever, even better than Tom Baker - the one most people think was the best. Matt Smith seems good so far, although of course it is very early days yet.
 
Yes, talking about seasons with Dr Who does seem wrong, particularly as over 40 years of programmes exist before what people are calling season 1. I'm the same age as the programme, but don't really remember much of the William Hartnell years, most of my childhood memories are with Patrick Troughton and John Pertwee, a real change between those actors! I never found the Daleks scary although they were my favourite as a small child, I was the proud owner of a Dalek (built by my father) that was almost as tall as I was. The ones that gave me the most nightmares were the Cybermen. Recently the Weeping Angels have been fantastic, Blink scared me more than many modern horror films, I do hope this weekend's episode will be up to the same standard. A shout out has to go to the Sea Devils who gave me hours of fun as my sister was so terrified of them - children can be cruel.

Definitley the worst years to grow up Plotinous. I never did really like Colin Baker as the Dr. and Slyvester McCoy really suffered with terrible scripts/production. i remember in an interview him saying there was one episode where it was meant to be really icy. He was therefore slipping as he walked, but when he watched it back he realised nobody else bothered. No one mentioned at the time that it just made him look really stupid.
 
I liked Colin Baker at the time, but you are right that these were the years when the series was basically being strangled to death - not the fault of the actors, but the scripts were dire and the production values an insult. Not that the late 1980s had a monopoly on this. I've been watching "The Web Planet" - a First Doctor story from 1965 - on MSN and it is absolutely abysmal in almost every respect, including the writing, which I had always imagined to have been the strong point of the early stories.

Still, my girlfriend considers the Fifth Doctor (Peter Davison) to be the definitive one, since she watched it when she was younger than me. (She's enough of a nerd to have commented excitedly during the very first Eccleston episode that they got the sound effects for the Autons right.) No accounting for taste though - I have a friend who thinks that Timothy Dalton was the best Bond...
 
Silurian
 
The mystery alien on the diamond planet. The one that the Doctor was helpless to stop and had absolute no idea about its nature or how to stop it. That was freaky.
 
I just watched that one, was a fun episode and I liked the "monster" I have to say.

the bug that made Donna turn the other way in her car was kinda nice as well. but, hey, you could blink!
 
There is something so, so wrong about people talking about "seasons" of Doctor Who...
Especially when the first half-dozen seasons happened in the 1960s! :mad:

I've never thought Daleks were scary. They're just cute. In the new series, they have made them a lot more awesomely powerful; the first "new" episode with a Dalek, with Christopher Eccleston, made the Dalek just so damn awesome it was basically very cool, rather than scary per se. I especially liked the bit where someone said to it, "What are you going to do, plunger me to death?" - in reference to the fact that Daleks have what appears to be a sink plunger sticking out of their front - and the Dalek then did just that, very satisfyingly.
Yes, the first nuDalek episode was good because I actually felt sorry for it! I hate the idea that all the other Timelords are extinct, though. To me, Romana is still in E-space, doing all kinds of adventurish things!

I think the weeping angels were the best villains I've seen on Doctor Who. They were helped by the fact that that episode was one of the best episodes of the series ever.
Yes, they were scary. :hide:

I do remember a very scary Thing that lived in a swimming pool in one Sylvester McCoy story (the Seventh Doctor), which terrified me when I was little (ish). I also seem to recall that when said Thing was finally revealed it wasn't very scary at all. Which is always the way.
You thought that dumb thing was scary? :crazyeye:

Getting eaten in your own kitchen was scary. The sugar highs the Kang girls will experience, now that the Doctor taught them how to operate the pop machines, are potentially scary.

Actually, "Paradise Towers" is one of my favorite Sylvester McCoy stories. For years, the hotel we usually went to for our annual summer science fiction convention was one that had its swimming pool on the top floor... hence we would get on the elevator and say we were "going to the Great Pool In the Sky" - and utterly confuse any non-convention attendee (aka mundanes) in the elevator! :lol:

As for the succession of Doctors, canon states that a Time Lord can regenerate only twelve times. Since the Doctor is now on his eleventh incarnation, that means that in theory he should only have two more. I suspect, however, that the writers would find ways to get around this. If memory serves, the Master (the Doctor's arch-enemy, and another Time Lord) managed to get extra regenerations on various occasions.

Just for reference:

Doctor #1 - William Hartnell
Doctor #2 - Patrick Troughton
Doctor #3 - Jon Pertwee
Doctor #4 - Tom Baker
Doctor #5 - Peter Davison
Doctor #6 - Colin Baker
Doctor #7 - Sylvester McCoy
Doctor #8 - Paul McGann
Doctor #9 - Christopher Eccleston
Doctor #10 - David Tennant
Doctor #11 - Matt Smith

According to the Colin Baker story arc "Trial of a Timelord" the 12th Doctor is actually the Valeyard. But the ending of that story was so confusing, I wouldn't mind if they changed that...

The Master used dirty tricks and outright murder to gain extra "lives" (ie. when his last regeneration failed and he hijacked Tremas' body in "The Keeper of Traken" - thus paving the way for Anthony Ainley to take over the role). However, in "The Five Doctors" the High Council of Gallifrey granted the Master a full new cycle of regenerations if he fulfilled a task they set for him - to rescue the Doctor (all 5 of them!). He did help sufficiently for that promise to be kept. But he must've gone through them in a godawful hurry if he was reduced to a boxful of oozing slime by the time of the Sylvester McCoy/Paul McGann movie. :ack:

Although I had the misfortune to grow up with Doctor Who during the Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy years, I do think that David Tennant was the best Doctor ever, even better than Tom Baker - the one most people think was the best. Matt Smith seems good so far, although of course it is very early days yet.
People tend to think the best Doctor is the one they were watching when they got hooked on the series. For me, that's Tom Baker. :love:

I got to meet Sylvester McCoy, the year his episodes premiered. He was on a tour of PBS stations in the U.S. and a friend and I travelled from Red Deer/Calgary to Spokane, Washington. There was a question-and-answer session, autographs, a TARDIS interior mockup where we could take pictures, and I even have a photo of myself sitting in Bessie (the Third Doctor's beloved car)! :D

 
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