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[Incubus0223]

okay to clear both of you up 17 divisions attacked the maginot line at strasbourg, and 29 divisions which were spread out in many different thrust were used in belgium while there were 45 divisions in reserve, this is coming straight out of a hitler book "hitler as military commander", but on a side note the fortifications of trench warfare was the technology of wwi and throughout history this has always been the problem people fighting the style of the last war, which in the case of wwii is why trench warfare was so bad germany realized and went around this previous war style

 

[frekk]

Originally posted by Incubus0223
okay to clear both of you up 17 divisions attacked the maginot line at strasbourg, and 29 divisions which were spread out in many different thrust were used in belgium while there were 45 divisions in reserve, this is coming straight out of a hitler book "hitler as military commander", but on a side note the fortifications of trench warfare was the technology of wwi and throughout history this has always been the problem people fighting the style of the last war, which in the case of wwii is why trench warfare was so bad germany realized and went around this previous war style

Yes, the Maginot line was eventually attacked and breached ... from the rear, though. Before this some artillery attacks etc were made against the Maginot but no serious assaults, just some shelling to keep the defenders occupied.

Illustrated below are the various plans considered, with (d) being the one eventually adopted. As you see, the First, Seventh and Sixteenth armies merely held the line on the German side facing the Maginot, and the entirety of the attack came through the unprotected Belgian sector.

 

[Incubus0223]

whoa thats almost exactly what the book shows kewl man

 

[frekk]

Here, you can see that the attack on the Maginot forces comes as they are fleeing the defences to reinforce Paris and the rest of France which is falling already to the attackers pouring out of the undefended Ardennes. Guderian's armoured group intercepts them as they head west while the First and Seventh cross the now unmanned Maginot and pursue them from the rear.



In other words, they had to take out the entire rest of the country before the Maginot Line fell.

 

[Taé Shala]

UPDATE: v1.1 C3C_fortress

 

[Ace_Of-Spades]

First off, what if anything does ww2 have to do with todays modern warfare. sure ww2 was the birth of rapid offensives and the first time fortifications became largly obsolete but the funny thing is that as rapidly as offensive weapons develop defensive weapons arn't far behind. the three major weapons that make fortifications a bad idea right now are Missiles, aircraft, and unbleivably devestation artiller barrages, but within the next 20 years two of these (with Aircraft being the exception) will become largly ineffective. Anti-missile weapons are getting better all the time, take the Phalanx or the patriot, and the radar controled chemical lasers are just starting to shrink to battlefield size, (they are uesed to track and destroy incoming artiller shells). And who knows what else is being cooked up behind the prying eyes of the public. Anyway my piont is that i'm betting that in ww3 if and when it comes there will be a huge ues of strateagic fortifications, the likes of whick we can only imagine, compare the maginot line to oh lets say a sandbag wall. So will the forts of tomorrow be compared to the maginot line.

Oh and sorry for rampling on

 

[mouselmm]

NEAT!

 

[Corey]

Very nice