New PBEM - 8 players!

Genghis_Kai

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Friends,

This is the new PBEM game setting. We are playing on GEM v5.3.

(1) Borgg: Germany, Hungary, Italy - 3 civ
(2) Fandazma: Japan, Manchuria, Thailand - 3 civ
(3) Ace of Spades: Turkey, Egypt, Arabia, Iraq, Iran - 5 civ
(4) Dazz_G: Russia, Mongolia, Communist China - 3 civ
(5) MarkyParky: Nationalist China, France, Netherlands, Greece - 4 civ
(6) Geronimo: Norway, Sweden, Finland, Spain, Portugal - 5 civ
(7) Genghis_Kai: Britain, Nepal, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand - 4 civ
(8) Bastian-Bux: Canada, America, Mexico - 3 civ
(9) Adhesive86: Colombia, Peru, Brazil, Argentina, Chile - 5 civ

Game setting:
Basically default GEM v5.3 setting except with only Time/Conquest/Domination victory. The time limit is shortened to 20 years (i.e. 240 turns)

Rules:
This is a Free for all game. Any forms of diplomacy is allowed, that includes in game trading with AIs, off game emails between human players.

There is a special arrangement about city gifting. There will be a xls file provided that groups all the cities in the scenario into 'regions'. Any player is not allowed to gift away the cities within the regions of its current and any previous capital.

House keeping:
We do not have any time limit for each player to have their turn. But please remember there are 9 people in this game simply each person takes 1 day to pass their turn would mean a turn around time of 9 days. As an indication, you are strongly encouraged to pass your turn within 12 hours after you received the game file. Or put it simply, just play your turn as soon as you received it.

When you have finished your turn and sent it to the next person, please come to this thread to drop a post to indicate that your turn is completed.

In the case you are going to holidays or will be absent from playing your turn for a period longer than 1 day, please kindly inform everyone through email. In the case you are away for more than 1 week, it would be best if you could nominate a person to help you take your turn while you are away (a person inside or outside the game.)

We wish to play this game TO THE END. That means, even though if you have got beaten badly, gang bashed by all 8 players, you should still play until your last city is gone. Welcome to the crude World War 2 :D
 
Below is the initial team statistics:

GNP (in descending order):
Spoiler :

American team - 5810
British team - 4649
French team - 4186
German team - 3490
Russian team - 2814
Japanese team - 2695
South American team - 2303
Scan-Iberian team - 2195
Middle east team - 1608


Production (in descending order):
Spoiler :

American team - 1708
British team - 1679
French team - 1399
Russian team - 1369
German team - 1245
South American team - 801
Japanese team - 754
Scan-Iberian team - 594
Middle east team - 470


Food (in descending order):
Spoiler :

British team - 1990
French team - 1578
American team - 1559
Russian team - 1184
Japanese team - 1013
German team - 646
South American team - 617
Scan-Iberian team - 570
Middle east team - 477


Soldiers (in descending order):
Spoiler :

French team - 6539
German team - 6455
British team - 5386
Russian team - 4535
Japanese team - 4266
American team - 3948
Scan-Iberian team - 2623
South American team - 2208
Middle east team - 1628


Land (in descending order):
Spoiler :

Russian team - 1277
American team - 1000
British team - 985
French team - 922
South American team - 481
Middle east team - 377
Japanese team - 301
Scan-Iberian team - 293
German team - 246


Population (in descending order):
Spoiler :

British team - 3504
Japanese team - 3220
American team - 3215
German team - 2672
Russian team - 2498
French team - 2444
South American team - 1195
Scan-Iberian team - 817
Middle east team - 656
 
I'm still ponder whether i should try germany this time. I'm not very happy to face Kai again as german player

I totally wouldn't mind that. But then my first preference is French/China team, i.e. you will still be facing me :) But may be this is the chance for you to revenge too.
 
No opposition from me. Seeing Kai bringing the french and chinese from the brink of destruction to glory sounds neat.

Though this leaves us with a vacant british position.
 
I hope i can get a close look on the beta tonight...but cant promise. My time schedule is very limited nowadays. So far i cannot see the heavy decreased situation for the germans. I just can judge annotations to the new version so far.

A heavy drawback is the missing of canada for GB. I'm not sure if SA and Egypt can compensate the fighter production. But india can produce now fighters. Very confusing all this ;-).

Further i think this szenario (no offence vs Kai) cannot provide the real oil problems for the axis. Acutally the support of oil for existing machinery in front was a painful problem (especially in africa for rommel). Once the tanks are in africa they roll and roll and roll..... No more oil needed. This is very big advance for Axis in this szenario. And a cant see how to adopt this into this game engine.
 
Sure, i just wanted to justify my choice of germany instead of GB. I hope i've better chances with them. But we all dont know what's comming out. Am i as good advance with german troops as you did? Will you prsence in French troops harden my advance in europe? We all don't know. :-)
 
So still an island monkey needed, as some not very friendly people over here would say. ^^
 
So Borgg is team 1 and Kai is team 5... and it seems we're shunning the Brits.

Being an 'island monkey' myself, I'd be plenty happy to step into the breach. ;)

I've already said i'll be Latin America and I guess LAtin America will be harder to fill so I'm happy to take either.

If no-one steps up for UK before kick off then do me a swap. I'm not fussy. I just want to get playing.
 
If there is no 8th player, I think we can probably live without a South American team. Although the US team then seems a bit too advantaged.

May be we can wait till the end of this week. In the meantime, can we do a bit more promotion. Borgg and Bastian, can you see if any more German players are interested?
 
Already posted at the german board this morning.

Actually I don't necessarily see the lack of a south american player as an advantage to the USA. Why? Because lacking that player means I HAVE to somehow controll south america, most probably by conquering it. If a south american player would be avaible, I could work something out with him, and lets face it: a human player will manage south america significantly better then the AI will. Sure a player is more prone to backstabbing, but an AI is guaranteed to be stupid, where a player does only have a limited chance to be so. ;)

So a player for south america, while forcing the USA to expand elsewhere, is keeping the USA from the necessity to expand southwards (except for the carribean).
 
I am afraid your logic is not convincing about AI south America :)

If your logic is true, same can apply to having AI France for Germany or AI China for Japan. This is a FFA game which means France doesn't has to be an enemy of Germany if it is play by human. The reason why human Germany would most likely invading France is because it is the obvious place for it to expand into. By having a human France would certainly slowdown that expansion rate.

South America IS THE obvious place for the US to expand into. A human player as south America, no matter it is a friend or enemy of USA, will ensure USA not be able to expand into there easily.
 
Of course it will. So my logic just makes sense for someone like me who sees waring with another player only as the ultima ratio. ^^
 
Hello, I am interested at joining the last remaining position. Is the offer stil valid?

Yes we do. Which team are you most interested to play? You can choose from the Britain, the S. America or the France team.
 
I hope i can get a close look on the beta tonight...but cant promise. My time schedule is very limited nowadays. So far i cannot see the heavy decreased situation for the germans. I just can judge annotations to the new version so far.

A heavy drawback is the missing of canada for GB. I'm not sure if SA and Egypt can compensate the fighter production. But india can produce now fighters. Very confusing all this ;-).

Borgg, some more info about your previous post. Comparing v5.3 and v5.2.1, the last release, I think Germany is actually much stronger than it was. The initial setting is not as good as it was, meaning you won't be able to capture Paris in your first turn, but the production rate is about 1.5 times strong and science rate is almost twice as strong as it was! Therefore, in the long run, France without external aid is doomed to fall into Germany's hand.

About Britain, S Africa is actually quite productive. Combining SA and NZ could probably make up the lost of Canada. Moreover, What Canada can help in the European war is really just the gifting of fighters and that could still be done in the hands of American team (assuming that the Americans are willing to help ;)).
 
Oh OK. Thats fine. Please PM me your email address.

Borgg, do you still want to be Germany or Britain? I am happy to be either Germany or Britain, but not really want to be S. America :)
 
Dobrý den MarkyParky, and welcome on board. ^^
 
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