NEW UNIT: Jomon Warrior

[Ozymandias]

Ah, Dom Pedro, more fine work!

-- BTW, just to make bamboo devotees of you all, I indeed suggest "dashing" over to the Graphics forum ...

-Oz, temporarily AKA "Big Bamboo" (trivia, um, "cultural" reference, anyone? )

 

[aaminion00]

I am not a japanese historian anything but I stand by my civilopedie entry.

Perhaps the Jomon didn't MAKE shinto, but some of Shinto's first principals were probably present with the Jomon culture. The Jomon's early beliefs could have very well developed into Shinto over time.

Although once again, I don't know too much about Japanese history.

 

[TVA22]

The Jomon people were either destroyed, or assimliated by the Yayoi, who appeared around 300BC. By this time, the Jomon culture was already gone. What we usually think of as 'Japanese culture' today was probably imported from China in the Asuka period (AD 552-710). Shinto, on the other hand has no known creator, it's just been around for as long as the Japanese have been. It does share a lot of similarities with native Chinese religions, so it may have been influenced by Chinese thinkers of the Asuka period. Keep in mind this was when China started to become a sort of cultural nucleus in the far east, something for which it's still recognized today. The reason pre-20th century buildings look like they do in asia is because that's how they looked in China.

 

[blix]

Originally posted by TVA22
The Jomon people were either destroyed, or assimliated by the Yayoi, who appeared around 300BC. By this time, the Jomon culture was already gone. What we usually think of as 'Japanese culture' today was probably imported from China in the Asuka period (AD 552-710). Shinto, on the other hand has no known creator, it's just been around for as long as the Japanese have been. It does share a lot of similarities with native Chinese religions, so it may have been influenced by Chinese thinkers of the Asuka period. Keep in mind this was when China started to become a sort of cultural nucleus in the far east, something for which it's still recognized today. The reason pre-20th century buildings look like they do in asia is because that's how they looked in China.

Everybody should know that Japan was influenced by China,because almost everything came from China like Karate,Buddhism(Spelling?),Origami,etc.

 

[Ozymandias]

Ironically -- given their extreme emnity over the last few centuries -- IIRC Japan was actually settled from the Korean peninsula in the 3rd Century CE; the aboriginal inhabitants were the Ainu, an evidently Caucasian people (!) now limited to the northernmost Japanese islands.

-Oz

 

[Dom Pedro II]

I have my theory about the Ainu actually, but if I told you, y'all would probably think I'm nuts!

 

[god_money]

C'mon Dom, humor us

Personally, I've never heard of the Aniu, of course, I've yet to do
research on the area...

 

[Dom Pedro II]

Well, I personally have done a lot of research on the subject, and I think that the Ainu were the remnants of a prehistoric civilization originally based on the Indonesian continent that existed before the end of the last Ice Age. I think that this culture was more advanced than its contemporary neighbors, however less advanced than the classical civilizations we tribute to being the "first" civilizations.

I think they did quite a bit of traveling as well and their culture continued in the myths of peoples throughout the world as Atlantis for the Greeks, Atala in the Middle East and India, Aztlan in MesoAmerica, and that these were the bringers of civilization: the Viracochas, the Quetzalcoatls, Prometheus. It's just unfortunate that so many people have bastardized the idea to the point where this civilization is described as having power crystals and submarines and all that nonesense.

The work I have been following are from archeaologists, doctors, and in particular a Brazilian physicist who has published extensive articles on the subject on the internet. Furthermore I've taken people like Graham Hancock with a grain of salt. His theories are completely inconsistent and his facts dubious at best sometimes. Though there is some information that can be extracted from his research.

 

[blix]

Interesting theory and I think that some of it's true.In like 1998 I'm not sure.A fisherman in Japan found strange stone monolith beneath the sea near Kyushu I think,I think that the strange monolith was probably created by Ainu before the Ice age ended and sunk it to the bottom of the sea.I know that's it's crazy but you really have to admitt that the Ainu were the original inhabitants of Japan before it was invaded sometime during the Iron Age and settled by the invaders.Besides the names of the main islands in Japan are Ainu names.Hey you gotta think of some possibilites.

 

[Dom Pedro II]

I think you might be referring to the Yonaguni monoliths...

Yes, there is a structure under the sea there that it's hotly debated whether or not they're natural or man-made.

If they were man-made, they were built almost 12,000 years ago since that was the last time the land was above water.

 

[Dom Pedro II]

For anybody interested, here are some pics of the Yonaguni site...

Yonaguni Research Website


The credibility of the site is a bit dubious, but the pictures don't lie... You can at least see more of the structure that way (I couldn't copy them).

 

[blix]

Originally posted by Dom Pedro II
I think you might be referring to the Yonaguni monoliths...

Yes, there is a structure under the sea there that it's hotly debated whether or not they're natural or man-made.

If they were man-made, they were built almost 12,000 years ago since that was the last time the land was above water.

Definately man made.Because there is no way that nature can make perfect square shapes and make steps.It's so obvious yet we still debate about it.All you need to do to figure out this mystery is look around the world before you and you'll find it out.

 

[Kal-el]

Originally posted by Dom Pedro II
I thought I'd give you guys a preview of my next unit...


still very early, I only just made this model.

Looks good, but isn't the Mohawk supposed to go front to back?

 

[Mr. Dictator]

i think its feathers, or were you joking?

 

[Dom Pedro II]

Yeah, it's feathers (though I don't know if he was joking). I've based the picture on a painting of an Iroquois warrior, and he has a large tuft of very thin, fine feathers toward the back of the head, with larger feathers sticking out.

 

[Healz]

It is very probable, the city theory, as before the Ice Age ended, that may have been dry land. Ice takes a lot of water, and we are talking large swaths of land covered in it. If the Artic and Antartic melted for instance large swaths of land would go under.

 

[thestonesfan]

I'm pretty sure it's natural. I watched a show about it, and that seems to be the general consensus of the scientific community. This kind of thing is not unprecedented, but the scale is enormous.

It's very strange looking, though.

 

[Exel]

How about an animated preview?

 

[gorn]

I'm glad this thread popped back up -- now I won't be accused of reviving it!

Love the unit, been using it for a while ... but it ain't centered. Anyone know about this, or how to correct it?

 

[Healz]

Looks, great, any animations completed yet?