New world map - upscaled Europe

[RobSoyka]

What do people think about map balance and all? I feel (unsure though) that this map has a lot less resources than the standard Earth one, so civs with lots of space to expand tend to dominate (Russia, Persia, China/India), while the Europeans one always stay at the bottom (especially poor Greek). Then again I don't know if adding resources in Europe would help this in any way (but hey, historically Europe was pretty damn backward pre-renaissance compared to the rest of the world).

I played one game which I thought was reasonably balanced with only England, Germany, Spain and Greek in Europe. (Greek got squashed still - I think it's a problem with their starting city)

Yes, there is some need for balancing

There is also a problem with Rome - they need to long to build a settler and so always fail to settle first at the location of Milano. It is always occupied by france, which becomes a european powerhouse - controling stones and marble, that way getting a lots of wonders first.

I found out that there is not enough marble and stone in Europe. I will fix that.

Greece made a poor start as well, but then settled balcan and black sea area.

All in all Europe made quite well.
First place: Me -germany, occupying middle europe, scandinavia, baltic shores ( after a war with russia, that had settled Finland )
Second was france, with half douzend wonders and technological equal to me. I dont know how they did this with only 3 Citys... but they were all huge citys indeed. I've never seen a Pop-18-City in Middle ages before....
England was fifth or so.

China had some trouble with japan, india or mongols, ending as one of the smallest civs. I think they had more potential. Just bad luck.

 

[Qienchi]

I tried playing Germany - and I notice if you build the starting city near where Munich is, you get 2 pigs, 2 cows, 1 stone, 1 wheat, possibly enough culture to expand to get 1 silver (although beyond the city's tile), and you block others from going to Scandinavia.

It was a juggernaut of a city!

 

[RobSoyka]

Version III out now. Informations and download at Beginnig of the thread.

 

[Bollox]

Question. What are the victory conditions of this map?

I got home DL it. when I clicked to start the downlod to my PC it opened the game up. I never got to pick the conditions of victory. I just go to pick my Civ and the difficulty and time and stuff so i assume its all the game type victories? If so that sucks ; ;

 

[alireza1354]

Very cool map! But unplayable in the long run.

 

[RobSoyka]

Very cool map! But unplayable in the long run.

Depends on the Power of your computer. It works fine on my PC, even if turns need a minute or two.

 

[panza105]

Its not that... My PC crashes when I load every user-made maps/mods, but not when I load the ones that comes with the game, those pre-made maps. Nor the random maps ingame.

Had same problems, till I realized UNCLE BILL, an the redmond crew were trying to run my computer, went in to the Bios and reset every thing on Video card Windon't reset. Also try double clicking on mod from worldbuilder file.

 

[alireza1354]

Depends on the Power of your computer. It works fine on my PC, even if turns need a minute or two.

I was talking about playing the map on MP. (multiplayer)

These are my system specs:

Pentium 4 CPU 3.4 Ghz

3.39 GHz 1.00 GB of RAM

Believe me, this pc is more than adequate to deal with the game. But the integrated MP system is not good enough to deal with MP games and these kind of maps. Hope the next patch will fix that.

Greetings

 

[Elhoim]

There are still some names that are not like the english version. Here they are: Japanese Empire, German Empire, Mongolian Empire, Malinese Empire, Incan Empire, Aztec Empire.

Also:

CivShortDesc=Aztecs
CivAdjective=Aztec
CivShortDesc=Incas
CivAdjective=Incan
CivShortDesc=Mali
CivAdjective=Malinese
LeaderName=Genghis Khan
CivShortDesc=Japan
CivAdjective=Japanese
LeaderName=Cyrus
LeaderName=Asoka
LeaderName=Catherine

 

[Elhoim]

Well, it seems this is the final version of this great map...

 

[RobSoyka]

Sorry, had some weeks full of work. I will change names tomorrow.

 

[Elhoim]

Thx!! Looking forward to it....

 

[RobSoyka]

Version IV ready for download. Attachment to the 2nd post in this tread.

Corrected all misspellings mentiond by elhoim.

 

[Bast]

I started playing this map as the Spanish and found that I had contact with America already on the first turn.

 

[RobSoyka]

I started playing this map as the Spanish and found that I had contact with America already on the first turn.

Mhhh... very mysterious. I will change this.

PS:
Changed now. No empire has contact to another empire in the beginning any longer.

Any more Problems?

 

[Bast]

Screenshot

 

[Bast]

Thanks. This is a good map. I like a larger Spain. Rhye's one had hardly any room to move for Isabella. I'll give this a try again.

 

[niust]

hi,, question for robsoyka or any one who can do this?
I wonder if you can tell me how to chage leaders of civ,,,?
how to chage diplomatic contact from the map ( who know who) ?
HOw to resize the map..?

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP

 

[RobSoyka]

hi,, question for robsoyka or any one who can do this?
I wonder if you can tell me how to chage leaders of civ,,,?

Open the World-Builderfile Save File with an editor.
You will find lines like this:

BeginPlayer
Team=0
LeaderType=LEADER_HATSHEPSUT
LeaderName=Hatshepsut
CivDesc=Egyptian Empire
CivShortDesc=Egypt
CivAdjective=Egyptian
FlagDecal=Art/Interface/TeamColor/FlagDECAL_EyeOfRa.dds
WhiteFlag=0
CivType=CIVILIZATION_EGYPT
Color=PLAYERCOLOR_YELLOW
ArtStyle=ARTSTYLE_MIDDLE_EAST
PlayableCiv=1
MinorNationStatus=0
StartingGold=0
StartingX=69, StartingY=37
StateReligion=
StartingEra=ERA_ANCIENT
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_GOVERNMENT, Civic=CIVIC_DESPOTISM
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_LEGAL, Civic=CIVIC_BARBARISM
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_LABOR, Civic=CIVIC_TRIBALISM
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_ECONOMY, Civic=CIVIC_DECENTRALIZATION
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_RELIGION, Civic=CIVIC_PAGANISM
Handicap=HANDICAP_NOBLE
EndPlayer


Interesting to you:

LeaderType=LEADER_HATSHEPSUT
This file effects Animation, Leader characteristics and AI-Behavior
Look for the spelling of the names!

LeaderName=Hatshepsut
CivDesc=Egyptian Empire
CivShortDesc=Egypt
CivAdjective=Egyptian
This are the names shown during the game.


FlagDecal=Art/Interface/TeamColor/FlagDECAL_EyeOfRa.dds
The map the empire uses

WhiteFlag=0
Not sure about that.

CivType=CIVILIZATION_EGYPT
The Civ.

Color=PLAYERCOLOR_YELLOW
The civ colour.

ArtStyle=ARTSTYLE_MIDDLE_EAST
The look of the citys.

how to chage diplomatic contact from the map ( who know who) ?

Open the World-Builderfile Save File with an editor. There will be lines for every Team like that for team 5:

BeginTeam
Tech=TECH_AGRICULTURE
Tech=TECH_HUNTING
ContactWithTeam=5
RevealMap=0
EndTeam


( Means: team knows itself, no one else)

copy and paste, then fill in th team you want. Then you get something like that:


BeginTeam
Tech=TECH_AGRICULTURE
Tech=TECH_HUNTING
ContactWithTeam=5
ContactWithTeam=6
RevealMap=0
EndTeam


(Means Team knows istself and Team 6 now)

HOw to resize the map..?

Use the World builder - but you would just get a clear map or a random map.
I changed the existing map manually, Europe is bigger now, but Atlantic ocean is smaller. Map size has not changed.

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP

Thanks!

 

[aronk76]

I like this mod so far but I was wondering if there is a way I can get just the map out of this so I can select what civs I want, etc. Like when you go into custom game you can select the different maps. Is there a way I can have this one as a selection without all 18 civs playing?