Originally posted by vincenzo
I understand the need for a hospital - what I meant was, if they think it is crowded now at 12 pop, how will they feel when there are 20 pop? Won't there be more unhappy citizens saying it is too crowded? I got another luxury but it made no difference in the number of unhappy citizens.
Thanks
If you did not have a marketplace, it is possible not to change the number of unhappy citizens, because luxuries make content happy BEFORE making unhappy content.
So, if your pop 12 city is regent (2 born content IIRC) and has a temple, a cathedral and a colosseum, you would have a total of 2+1+3+2 content citizens, which would leave 4 more unhappy.
If you then had 4 luxuries, and no marketplace,and no lux tax, that would make 4 of the content citizens happy - leaving you with 4 happy, 4 content and 4 unhappy. If you added a fifth luxury then that makes another of your content citizens happy - making the split 5/3/4 - still 4 unhappy.
Now, if you had a marketplace, but had 3 luxuries (instead of 4) you would still be balanced at 4/4/4. Adding another luxury would add two more luxury effects - which would make 2 of the content citizens happy. Giving you 6/2/4 - still 4 unhappy citizens.
For luxuries to affect the unhappy, there must be no-one 'just' content.
It doesn't matter too much if you don't have complete happiness in your city - you won't get a WLTKD, but if your pop 20 city is near your capital or FP that won't affect corruption too much. Most important is to have more happy than unhappy. So you need 10 happy citizens. That pretty much requires a marketplace, and a big bunch of luxuries, or lux tax (a big city should have a nice big commerce, so even 10% will likely give 3 or so happy faces).
To make a pop 20 city totally unhappiness-free takes quite some doing:
You start with 2 content and 18 unhappy (regent again). Add in all the content improvements - temple, cathedral, colosseum. Another 6 content from unhappy. Give yourself Sistine Chapel (another 3 content) and JS Bach (another 2) Hell, let's have the hanging gardens, another content citizen. That's now a total of
2 (basic) +1 (temple) + 3 (cathedral)*2(Sistine) + 2 (Colosseum) + 2 (Bach) + 1 (Hanging Garden) = 14 content. Which means there must still be 6 unhappy. Let's assume we're communist and have 4 MPs - now there are 18 content and still 2 unhappy. Now add a market and all 8 luxuries - 20 happy faces. That makes the 18 content become happy, and one of the unhappy becomes content, then happy. Now you have 19 happy and one unhappy. Unless I forgot something the only way to stop that last citizen being unhappy is to apply some luxury tax. I doubt it's worth the expense!
Note that to keep order only takes 10 happy citizens. Which you can get with temple, cathedral and colosseum (no wonders) giving 8 content, and 6 luxuries with a marketplace, giving 12 happy faces, making the 8 content happy, and 2 more of the unhappy also happy.
