News TSG 168 Announcement

[Knowtalent]

Civilization 5 - Game of the Month Training Series Game 168
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Welcome to the 168th game in the GOTM V Training Series! This Series will allow new and old GOTM fans to try out these features from Civ5's expansions and DLCs in a friendly environment. Participants are encouraged to post questions, stories, advice, tricks and failures in the dedicated game threads (described below). Each game will specify the Civ you will play and the Victory Condition to strive for. You can read more about the GOTM and Training Series concept in this thread.
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Civ V BNW - TSG168 Details:

Player (You): Maria Thersa-Austria
Victory Condition: Open VC You are free to choose your path, all VCs are enabled, Difficulty: Emperor
Civs/City-States (including player): 8/20
Map Type/Size: Large/Frontier
Game pace: quick

Game options:
Start - Ancient
Enabled - Quick Combat, Quick Movement, Raging Barbarians
(Regardless of starting options, you may turn on/off Quick Combat/Quick Movement using the game options menu at any time during gameplay.)
Game Version: This game was created in Civ5 Brave New World version 1.0.3.279.
Game Requirements: korea, mongolia . Gods and Kings expansion, Brave New World Expansion.

Austria Unique Abilities:

Spoiler :

UA: Diplomatic Marriage - You may spend gold to annex or puppet a City-State that has been your ally for 5 turns..

UB: Coffee House - Replaces the Windmill. In addition, it will provide a 25% Great Person generation bonus to cities it is built in. It does not require the city to not be built on hills.

UU: Hussar - This mounted unit replaces Cavalry. It has an Extra Sight promotion and Enhanced Flanking promotion that does additional 50% damage on flanks.

This is where you will start:

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This game runs for a month and ends April 1st, 2018.

 

[zxcvbob]

What is a "frontier" map?

I think I'll cross the river and settle on the jungle hill next to the copper.

 

[glonnon]

Excellent choice, I got my coffee out and read to the bottom and realized it was a quick game. Well it should have some interesting decision points but standard is still the preferred time span. Epic is really slow and quick has some distortions and lacks opportunity, forcing the player to grab a significant lead before attacking.

 

[JeffreyLXV]

Victory Condition: Open VC You are free to choose your path, all VCs are enabled,

I count on you to make these decisions for me!

 

[Bagg]

Neat. Howdy guys old time civ5 player new time fanatics member. I will give this gotm thing a try, cool thing you have going on.

I never play quick, anyone have a "quick" rundown on the difference in strategy between quick and standard? I couldn't find anything other than hard facts. All I really know is production overflow is easier to achieve and roll quick 1 turn units and buildings.

 

[beetle]

Think I will just do the SV, as the UA is supposed to be good for that. I will try and buy up every CS that I can.

I think I'll cross the river and settle on the jungle hill next to the copper.

That sounds good. Warrior to copper hill first, just to double check that the move makes sense.

 

[pzelda]

Nice,
I might give it a shot. Emperor is my favourite difficulty right now.

 

[raider980]

Oh good, a civ I've never played. However, one reason I've never played Austria is because I don't understand the point of their UA. Why would I want to buy a city state? I want them as an ally to give me culture, happiness, etc. Isn't buying them counterproductive? Not to mention the city location is probably going to be less than ideal. Is it just to save on having to build settlers? I guess you could only buy militaristic or maritime; but what if none of them are near you.

 

[beetle]

I don't understand the point of their UA. Why would I want to buy a city state? I want them as an ally to give me culture, happiness, etc. Isn't buying them counterproductive? Not to mention the city location is probably going to be less than ideal. Is it just to save on having to build settlers? I guess you could only buy militaristic or maritime; but what if none of them are near you?

All good points. See the comments in CDG8 thread. The population boost can be good for science, but I myself was not really successful with that.

The UA does not let you skip settlers, as it takes quite a while to have the gold. On the other hand, late game cities are usually actually counter-productive. The Austria UA makes the late-game addition to your empire pretty neutral. But I think it mostly just good for role play.

 

[jrwh]

Excellent choice, I got my coffee out and read to the bottom and realized it was a quick game. Well it should have some interesting decision points but standard is still the preferred time span. Epic is really slow and quick has some distortions and lacks opportunity, forcing the player to grab a significant lead before attacking.

Yeah of all the settings to experiment with, I really wish we would leave this one alone and just do standard speed. But every GotM recently seems to be either quick or epic

 

[Zlither]

Interesting combo:
1: quick, so not good (at least for me) for domination,) as units expire too quick but ... austria, good for domination
2: frontier not best for dom, but austria...
3: large, so patronage, but austria, so while patronage helps, $ is better

It's like negating Austria's advantages?

 

[nyika13]

Oh good, a civ I've never played. However, one reason I've never played Austria is because I don't understand the point of their UA. Why would I want to buy a city state? I want them as an ally to give me culture, happiness, etc. Isn't buying them counterproductive? Not to mention the city location is probably going to be less than ideal. Is it just to save on having to build settlers? I guess you could only buy militaristic or maritime; but what if none of them are near you.

I didn't understand the value of the Austrian UA until recently either... When you buy a city-state, you get all its units too. I was losing a war and buying a city-state near my opponent turned the tide in my favor. Find one in a strategic location and buy it to bolster your attacking army or to deter more powerful CIVs from attacking you if you're turtling for a space victory.