Next Turn - 1000 A.D.

[Octavian X]

940 AD

Made recommend changes.

W. Polar dip is near Athens...

Crusader picks off Viking Chariot

960 AD

Vikings near Viborg

Order Restored
Nemo Bay
Neuma
Bedfont Lakes
Gabba Gabba

We Love the Consul Day
Penguin flats
Monke's Town
Eboracum
Legendary City
Castle Jayne
Civvium
Mordhiemia
Reneaux
Marls Downs
Elysium
ThunderFalls
Regia Civitas

Banking system developed, begin Theory of Gravity

Uppsala completes temple and celebrates, starts dip?

Polar dip spots Grass

Viborg: Dip bribes horse, both catapults destroyed

980 AD

New Octavia's Point celebrates Octavian!

Viborg settlers can't be supported - disbanded

More than 2,000,000 citizens live within Fanatica's bordesr

Before RC silk arrives, Gandhi requests audience. accepted

Demand navigation. Refused. Discussion ended without war.

Silk arrives in Delhi. 246 gold revenue

Found N. Khorsabad, rush settler in Khorsabad. starts settler

Polar dip meets Emperor Alex of Greece. Meet him.

Want navigation, and refused. Sign peace treaty.

1000 AD

Viking knight approaches Viborg

Greeks expell polar dip to RC.

Indians land near Legendary City

Russia starts Magellan's (!)

celebration cancelled in Penquin Flats

some celebations cancelled, disorder in Ft. Anarchy (rather ironic)

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Again, I apoligize for the delay. I may need to set a system where someone else plays during the week, so our momentum may be better preserved.

No moves have occured yet.

Come, advisors, citizens. Comment on the state of the Republic!

Also, I don't have any time for screenshots right now, maybe later...

The save file...

 

[Jayne]

I may need to set a system where someone else plays during the week, so our momentum may be better preserved.

I can play Wednesday morning sometime after 0930GMT (whenever Lucy decides to sleep). After that I can only play Monday or Tuesday am. Although I may be able to post, I won't be able to play turns again until 2nd Jan, by which time we would have had elections.

So, I will play Wednesday morning (GMT) unless Oct X says he is playing.

 

[GaryNemo]

1000AD Status of the NUF Republic - 379 gold

POPULATION: 2,680,000, so quickly! Huge F5 arrow increases!

Thank you for following several of my recommendations, sir. Khorsabad Island is at last square with future plans. Next the Latin City Names?

Our potential Foreign Trade Caravans are languishing near RC. Fort Anarchy brings us to an important realization. We will be better at an even higher standard luxury. I wist to purchase new jewels for Lady Nemo, Jayne, Princess Lucy, everyone!

The Indian invasion is nothing more than an interruption for Legendary City. But it was trouble again in Viborg. I weep at the loss of the precious Viborg Settler, one of my brethern. The damaged Horse would have been better off healing in Uppsala, still true. And why waste our Barracks - build a Trondheim smashing Catapult.

Our enemies are building Marco Polo! Anything else?

1000 AD Status: 2,268,000 people, similar 34 cities. 379 gold, For comparison at 20,20,60% 1.Scientist 1.Elvis, Many.Celebrations, only 1.Disorder (FA tragedy). With download serf changes below, F5 $59 -18, Sci 224 in 5.turns. F11 Mfg=158 (loss of Coal Mine), Family Size=5.2   NUF is exploding ahead of our dangerous enemies, sweeping #1 in Population, Manufacturing, Land Area, Productivity and Family Size.

940 AD Status: 1,750,000 people, still 34 cities. 239 gold, At adjusted 20,20,60% 1.Scientist 3.Elvii, No.Celebrations, only 4.Disorder (GG BFL Neuma NB). Was F5= $44 -17, Sci 182/5. F11 Mfg=156, Family Size=5.4   NUF is ahead of our vicious enemies, again sweeping #1 in Manufacturing, Land Area, Productivity and Family Size! #2 in Population, at the moment.

500 AD Status: 1,120,000 people in 24 cities. 290 gold, 30,00,70% One Scientist, 4.Elvii, 4.Celebrations. F5 $42 -15, Sci 133 in 6 turns. F11 Mfg=99, Family Size=4.6 NUF is again #1 in Manufacturing, Land Area and Productivity, only #2 in Population, slipped to #3 in Family Size.

Download serf changes:
REGIA CIVITAS: grassland wastrel to ocean
Elysium: lack of new road is delaying University, sad
TFalls Settler: wandering in Hills near FA?
Gabba Gabba: forest serf to newly irrigated road
Bedfont Lakes: IPRB=30 $13, Silk Van in 4
Octavia: max grassland to river shield
Reneaux: newly homed settler is wandering. Irrigate Ren ASAP
Neuma: forest to river shield, Buy Temple $22? BUILD CITY
Dellham: again, mine serf to river, trigger celebration
Fort Anarchy: disaster, coal mine to irrigated plains
Hipsheim: irrigated serf to plains road (help FA)
Legendary City: IPRB $4, serf on fish?
Banana Bay: survived, still strangled
Routskilde: Peat serf to Fish for one turn, Temple & grow.
Uppsala: put Elvis to work on plains, sw Dip to Catapult
Bactra: why growing madly? farmer to forest at least.

Deliver MD Salt to Elysium NOW, at Max Trade.

Researching Gravity (due in 1? turn), 32 known: Alphabet, Astronomy, Bridge, Banking, Bronze, CBurial, Chivalry, CodeLaws, Construction, Currency, Engineering, HBR, Invention, Iron Working, Literacy, Map Making, Masonry, Mathematics, Monarchy, Monotheism, Mysticism, Navigation, Philosophy, Polytheism, Pottery, Republic, Seafaring Harbors, Trade, University, WarriorCode, Wheel and Writing.

We will grow again, and might bump Lux to 30% permanently.

-GaryNemo, Deputy to the Domestic Advisor.

 

[Jayne]

GaryNemo wrote: I weep at the loss of the precious Viborg Settler, one of my brethern.

I believe we lost the settler because the horseman we bribed took the support away from the settler. Viborg didn't even have enough shields left to build anything, let alone support another unit!!!

 

[GaryNemo]

Increasing Luxury to 30%

Notice how much more we're earning, and how many more science beakers we produce? Lux 30% makes it even better, not worse.

This resolves the Problem of Fort Anarchy, maintains the Celebration in Civvium uninterrupted, and resumes the celebrations in cities that may have dropped last year. Many small cities such as GG and YD will do well at Lux=30% - I don't think we'll ever go back. REGIA CIVITAS: AQUADUCT ASAP

Set Tax=20 Lux=30 Sci=50% Additional:

REGIA CIVITAS: Caravan in 1, then Aquaduct!
Civvium: 30% resumes Celebration growth,
  new serf to Forest, Caravan in 2, Market.
TFalls: forest serf to ocean, celebrates
Gabba Gabba: needs Road to grow to Size=3 , next time...
Penguin Flats: GLS serf to ocean, celebrates!
Marl Downs: not sure, maybe Salt route to Elysium will help
York Downs: grows in 3, forest to ocean in 1!
Mordhiemia: hire Elvis, irrigation soon to grow
Eboracum: forest to ocean, celebrates

Reneaux: celebrates, needs irrigation, double settlers
Dellham: again, mine serf to river, trigger celebration
Fort Anarchy: serfs on roads, Celebrate to Size=4 then
  4th serf onto Coal Mine, stop at Size=4!
Monks Towne: hire Elvis, needs irrigation to zoom
Legendary City: iron serf to Road, celebrates, IPRB $4
Castle Jayne: 30% resumes Celebration growth,
  donate irrigation to MT, both cities grow!

Viborg: wounded Horse to Upps, rehome there?
Uppsala: too much corruption to celebrate

Resulting F5: $62 -18, Sci 186/5, Mfg=150, Fs=5.1
Compare 20%: $59 -18, Sci 224/5, Mfg=158, FS=5.2

15 cities will either continue or resume celebration.

We will make it up in 1 turn & get back FA's Coal Mine.

-GaryNemo, Deputy to the Domestic Advisor.

 

[Talar]

Checked the savegame and noted a few things. What are all thoose crusaders+legion in Viborg waiting for? I believe the citizens of Hladir would like to invite them over for a party btw, do Viborg really need another phalanx?

Uppsala don't need the entertainer.

I strongly suggest buying the university in Elysium and then to start prebuilding for Isaac Newton's.

Caravan in Bedfont Lakes should be partially bought this or next turn.

Civvium should switch grassland worker to forest.

Fort Anarchy is starving. We need to give it the plains square currently worked by Hipsheim. And then some irrigation for both cities.

Reneaux is building knight, the warrior should be disbanded or support costs will kill production.

Regia Civitas, serf to roaded grassland.

Neuma is also starving, switch forest to river and irrigate. It won't need the temple right now anyway.


Generally we need to grow our cities. We need MUCH more irrigation. I also think we should do some more exploration.

 

[GaryNemo]

Talar, I quite agree we have enough units in Viborg to make some headway. Legion, 3 Crusaders, wounded horse, Phx and Dip. The horse could heal quickly in Upps Barracks. If we had time, the Upps Crusader could rehome in Lindow Moss. Perhaps our General will post a plan.

I think we can leave the Elysium Univ build normal, then perhaps build a quick Dip while the Vans muster to build Isaac. Foreign trade will generate a nice flow of beakers shortly. Generally, I agree with your observations. The Ren Warrior disband is an interesting thought. Civvium, Fort Anarchy, Neuma I propose to resolve by either Celebration, or founding a city to remove the Settler Support drag.

Explore: one Caravel with Dip Captain heads West, another set heads West. Yes.

 

[GaryNemo]

Settlers support the Celebration:

This plan provides for Irrigation and Roads at key cities. To resolve cities abused by settler support (BB Neuma Ren) we will found 3 new cities. To resolve Banana Bay and the loss of the Viborg Settler, the BB Settler will go found V3 immediately - then BB can grow to use the Fruit and Whale. To resolve Neuma (finish Temple), that settler is taking the Road to Upps, w new Hips Dip founding Lone Bison. Reneaux now supports 2 settlers. The DH and one Ren Settler are Irrigating for Ren, hopefully to WLTK pop to Size=6 shortly. The other Ren Settler will found HillMine shortly.

None @ RC: Irrigate Pure Green for RC where it stands.
  Then SE Plains I=Irrigate.
LN near GG: head to Civvium, charging, irrigate BFL-Civvium Road.
  S E charge, SE S charge, S S I
CJ Settler irrigating near Elysium: Clear.Orders and build Road
  New Elysium serf onto Road, Sett SE charge S Road.
Mordhiemia: Continue irrigate, S of Lake. Then Road for MD.
  Mord Grass serf to Lake, await irrigation to grow.
Octavia: either ship out or build Road/Irr for MD.

DH 2NW of Reneaux: finish Irrigation - critical for Ren growth.
  New DH Knight, rehome in Hips, DH start Silk Van.
Ren Forest: W NW charge, NW I with DH Sett. Then both SE I.
Neuma N of MT: take road N to Udal, found Lone Bison.
MT: Finish Irrigation, then E SE River Road & Irr.
TFalls in hills near FA: head NW NW to Hill Mine 82,36 and Mine.
Ren near FA: on Desert 84,36 so Road here.
  After Mine is started, found Hill Mine city.
Udal on Forest: finish Road it started, I guess...
BB in Routs: E E, board ferry for V3 (W W of Upps) and found V3.

Ebor Ferry: NW NW, pick up BB Sett, E E drop at V3, S S S to Udal, pickup Neuma Sett, drop at Lone Bison Island, back to Udal.

Lindow Moss Settler: with the recent setback in Viborg and the idea to found V3 with BB Settler, W Road GLS, then Irrigate for Uppsala, then Upps can finally use the Iron. LM produces valuable Gems, demanded by TFalls and Lahore. It would be nice to grow onto the Peat, switch to Caravan 16/50 in 7, Gems.

Khors.South, Road, then not sure.

 

[GaryNemo]

Markets etc

Dellham: Knight? 39/40 in 1, start Van, not Market.

We are building several specially chosen Markets. Our primary cities (after RC & Elysium) are Marl Downs, Civvium and Reneaux (Wine Mine). The next tier is TFalls, Mord and Castle Jayne, then Neuma, Monks Towne, Dellham and Legendary City. Markets: Marl Downs is in progress 30/50, and next regular start in Civvium, CJ, Reneaux. Perhaps Octavia should next build a Temple, but another Settler is sure tempting.

Please vote in the poll "Lux Vans Wonders 1000AD" which also has the Caravan Plan. Also please review "Plans w Jayne 1000AD" which covers nearly everything else.

It is not apparent to me what domestic matters need a vote. The Celebration is roaring. Most everything has been approved in prior turns. The 3 new cities V3, Lone Bison, HillMine have been discussed for a month, and we desparately need those 3 settlers to build a city: BB Neuma and Ren. The 3 new markets in Civvium CJ Reneaux, what other choices are there? The Trade Caravans are sll set to go, and there are enough others to build both Magellan and Isaac. I think we are ready to move tomorrow. Alternatives? Comments?

 

[naervod]

Please make our Science choices according to this poll.

 

[GaryNemo]

Proposed WLTK MicroManagement 1000AD

Begin by touching W all units, to see Settlers' finished work.

Key: (A) Approved, (L) Listed, (D) Discussed, (P?) Poll, (N) Nemo

Civvium Silver: Rehome RC, deliver to Madras Demand (A)
MD Salt near Elysium: deliver now into Elysium Demand (A)
RC Gold is at the GG Dip location, heading to Ren Demand in 5

Dip at 91,45 Wine is on a Road. Unfortify, move to River 91,43 (D)
CJ Settler irrigating near Elysium: Clear.Orders and build Road (L)
  New Elysium serf onto Road, Sett SE charge S Road.
Viborg: wounded Horse to Upps, becomes Viborg Attack Knight (L)

Set Tax=20 Lux=30 Sci=50% and increase Lux% as needed (A)
Immediate changes: (nc=No Change)

Note: Move Castle Jayne serfs first, then MT, then Neuma.

REGIA CIVITAS: grassland wastrel to ocean, Van in 1 (L)
TFalls: forest serf to ocean, Celebrates!
Gabba Gabba: forest serf to newly irrigated road, Silk in 3
Penguin Flats: GLS serf to ocean, Celebrates!
Mordhiemia: serfs to irrigation & ocean, Celebrates!
Octavia: max grassland serf to river shield, Sett in 4
Eboracum: forest to ocean, Celebrates!?
Neuma: forest to MT's River, still Temple, Sett found Lone Bison

Reneaux: nc, Celebrates, needs irrigation so double settlers (D)
Dellham: if doesn't celebrate, try Mine serf to river...
  Knight? 39/40 in 1, start Silk Van, not Market.
Hipsheim: irrigated serf to plains road (help FA, slow Hips)
Fort Anarchy: serfs on roads, Celebrate to Size=4 then STOP (N)
Monks Towne: serfs to CJ's Irrigation...
Legendary City: Iron serf to Road, Celebrates!
Cymru Straits: serf on plains road, IPRB=20 $6, Copper Van
Castle Jayne: 30% resumes Celebration growth,
  donate one irrigation to MT, both cities grow!

Routskilde: Peat serf to Fish for one turn, Temple & grow
Uppsala: put Elvis to work on plains, sw Dip to Catapult (P?)
Lindow Moss: sw to Caravan, new serf to Peat, Gems Van
Bactra: why growing madly? farmer to forest, IPRB $13? $8?

Changes after one or more turns - 1000AD

REGIA CIVITAS: ocean serf to plains, Spare Diplomat in 5 (A)
Civvium: 30% automagically resumes Celebration growth,
  new serf to Forest, Salt Caravan in 2, start Market (P?)
TFalls: new serf#6 to forest?
Bedfont Lakes: IPRB=30 $2, Silk Van (N)
Penguin Flats: Settler in 4, then Temple (P?)
Marl Downs: needs Road & Irrigation, Salt into Elysium may help
York Downs: grows in 2, forest to ocean in 1 !
Octavia: Settler in 4, then another Settler (P?)
New DH Knight: rehome in Hips, ship via Udal to Uppsala (L)
Fort Anarchy: Coal Mine, Celebrate to Size=4 & STOP, Temple???
Monks Towne: serfs on CJ's Irr, hire Elvis, grow when Irr'd
Castle Jayne: Settler in 3, then start Market (Poll?)
Banana Bay: nc, survived, still strangled, found V3 (L)
Routskilde: serfs on 2 Whales & Peat, Celebrates? Ocean? Phx?

Also please consider Caravan Plan (in poll), Plans w Jayne, Settlers (above) to found 3 new cities: V3, Lone Bison, HillMine to help cities strangled by settlers. Shift Dips using expelled GG Dip in RC (Greek business).

 

[Rout]

Hello there,
Havent been able to reach the forum for a bit so im relived only 1000ad has passed. Anyone plan to add the screenshots as i feel totally lost without them?

 

[GaryNemo]

Jayne is going to move in about 18 hours -- perhaps she'll provide screen shots then. In the mean time, we have several polls. Indian Catapult to attack Lighthouse of Trondhiem perhaps? Preferences on Misc Builds? If you read enough of these threads, you'll see we have a large army of 5 units near the Vikings, about to add a couple more units. Celebrating nicely, then we'll pause and work: irrigate, trade, fight Vikings, land in India, you know.

 

[GaryNemo]

Please do not disband the Indian Catapult if you bribe it. Send it to Monks Towne and rehome it there, to quickly unload LC. Looking at the other threads, we're changing Uppsala to Crusader rather than Catapult. That should end that controvery. So Upps will build a second Vet Crusader for the assault on the Lighthouse of Trondheim. And we'll have one Catapult to use someday when it becomes a Cannon, I guess.

Btw, I no longer thing we should disband any of our warriors. Even the extra one in Ebor ... will become a Pikeman guard for those islands NE of Boreum we are settling. The Celebration is magnifying our production, and our shield worries are over.

The LM Settler is irrigating for Uppsala, to bring that Iron online.

Regarding unhappiness, the "Invisible Hand" of Nemo has been guiding NUF for 4000 years, and we have no worries. True, some cities are guarded by units that are supported elsewhere. But all that is optimal for NUF, methinks. Anyone with specific questions regarding unit support, please address them to me.

I'll be in tomorrow morning, long enough for a brief report of Jayne's move. If anyone else would like to handle the map, please add city sites to it as best you recall. If anyone else would like to generate a long list of questions, like I did last turn, please do.

 

[Jayne]

Starting to play now....... will post in a couple of hours!

Wish me luck!

 

[ainwood]

Originally posted by Jayne
Wish me luck!

OK - Good luck!

 

[Duke of Marlbrough]

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