Next turn - 1762 AD

[funxus]

The objectives these turns are:
Capture Tlax
Capture Lahore
Eliminate French
Prepare all core-cities and some others for celebrations.

1752 AD:
RB Igl library, VM SM, ML van, BP SE.
Prepare Bap for relocation. (can't buy engineer this turn, we'd lose the allready existing one)

RB Aztec caravan. 287g, Gold.

Captures Tours. 19g. Turn down French audience. Galleon continues north and discovers French Phalanx putside Ten and irrigation on island...

Talk to Aztecs (Receptive):
Demand Tribute, war.

Cav takes fortress near Tlax from Archer.

Galleon in RF moves out to fetch caravan in Woodstock.

Destroyer outside Indians discovers two loaded caravels.

LC barracks sold.

Cav in Berlin moves to mountain. Knight and dip moves out to explore Cyberia.

Rename Eburacum to Barbieville (original name).

1754 AD:
French caravel attacks (and loses) destroyer outside Tours.
Aztec dip approaches cav in fort.
Chinese caravans lands near BS.

Morp dip. (harbor)
Trin eng. (harbor)
ML salt van. (another)
Trollhättan build MP. (caravan)
Electrical eng. (MP)
BF eng. (Bank)
Eph engineer. (harbor)
Intombe eng. (temple)
BP SE. (SM)
FJ bank. (SE)
BS CH. (SE)
Delphi eng. (harbor)
Igl Lib. (CH)
VM SM. (caravans)
FW CH. (SE)
PB CH. (SE)
Dou food van.
Ipec lib. (SE)
Neu CH. (SE)
RF Spice van. (eng)
Zim eng. (harbor)

RBs where needed.

Bap engineer rehomed in Intombe. RB Engineer in Bap.

Chinese wants audience. Accept. They want RR, no, ask to share maps, no.

Tlax dip and 2 settlers killed. AT and cav moves to hill next to Tlax (size 10).

Destroyer kills French trireme with 2 units and archer in Lyons.

ML salt van delivered to Dou: 33g\b, tr: 5t/turn.

Talk to Indians:
They want GP, no, we demand tribute, war. Bye bye Lahore...

Destroyer attacks caravel with 3 units on. Kills pike in Lahore. AT moves in, 171g.
All units but clad are disbanded, shall we bribe it (570g) or kill it? Bribe, clad moves towards indian caravel to kill it, attacks, but loses against hidden indian clad. I probably should have done it the other way despite the costs...

1756 AD:
French develop Chemistry.
Celebrations in FJ, PB.
Argos eng. (harbor)
Ho temple. (MP)
EF SM. (caravans)
Nae SE. (SM, celebrations)
Disband Bap.
Ulu temple. (MP)
LC Dye van.
LP silver van.

RBs where needed.

Kills pike in Chartres with Destroyer, cav moves in. 18g. Destroyer ocntinues and kills pike in Rheims.

Cor engineer founds Dover (As in Dover-Callais) outside the Ruins of Besancon, the purpose is to act as a port towards the french. Galleon RBed from start for 170g, despite the extra costs. We want "Callais" (Lyons) next turn.

Delivery from Sup to Dou: 90g\b, 6t/turn.

Chinese catapult follows knight and dip.

Holywood founded north of Zion.

Bapedi founded W of Bapedi.

Tlax attack:
sup vet-cav attacks from hill: Victory against two archers. Cav from west attacks, wins. Third cav moves in, along with AT. 200g, MP, Aqueduct. Engineers continue RR.

Destroyer kills hurt indian clad.

Chinese caravans plan to roam our lands it seems. I shall allow this, but it seems we might need to start a passive war against the chinese soon.

With Lahore and Tlax captured, we shall concentrate on the French. They have some nice size 12-cities, and we're on our way to capture Lyons and Rheims, as well as exploring the surrounding continents and islands.

1758 AD:
French knight approaches AT (from Eretria, just started exploring Cyberia from south). Decline talk.

Aztecs want to talk. Yes, they want RR, no, they say war.

Indian clad rounds Holywood coast.

Duke eng. (temple, no surplus)
Sug temple. (MP)
Sup bank. (aqueduct, celeb)
Nemo temple. (MP)
Elec MP. (aque)
Rhodes eng. (harbor)
Intom temple. (aque)
BP SM. (engineer)
FJ SE. (SM)
BS SE. (SM, celeb)
Tlax starts fan.
Delphi harbor. (Temple)
Igl CH. (SE)
FW SE. (SM)
PB SE. (SM)
EF celebrates. (Prod 25s means one van/2turns, but also pollution)
Sparta harbor. (Temple)
Ipec SE. (SM)
NEU SE. (SM)
RF eng. (caravan)
Zim harbor. (Temple)

RBs where needed.

Destroyer kills indian caravel.

French War:
Destroyer attacks Rheims, kills archer. Cav dsembarks into Rheims and plunders 76g, the harbor was fortunately saved.
Destroyer killed caravel, found Rouen in Cyberia. Kills pike, but rests.
Dover galleon loaded with 4 cavs. Prod set to fan. 2 cavs kill the two legions, 3rd cav captures Lyons. 49g, harbor and Lib.

1760 AD:
French overthrows to Republic.
They request audience, no.
Aztecs get chem from French. Aztecs develop Demo.
Indian clad attack (and loses) Lahore. They skip Zion.

Neo harbor. (engineer)
Barbieville harbor. (galleon)
Zion harbor. (temple)
Morph harbor. (temple)
Trin harbor. (temple)
ML beads van. (van)
Tro salt van. (van)
Thes eng. (harbor)
BF bank. (caravan)
Tours harbor. (eng?, we need to clear that jungle)
Eph harbor. (temple)
Arg harbor. (temple)
Knossos harbor. (caravan)
Phar harbor. (temple)
Igl celeb.
VM beads van.
Hlo MP. (caravan)
Cor eng. (caravan)
EF gold van.
Dou food van.
Nae SM. (caravan)
Ulu MP. (Caravan)
LC wool van.
Ipec celeb.
Neu celeb.
LP gems.
RF celeb.
Berlin temple. (MP, barbs from east approaches, so cav on mountain will head back)
Athens eng. (caravan)

Pop: 28 million.

RBs where needed.

Loot founded north of Barb.

French war:
Destroyer kills legion and archer in Rouen. Cav captures it, ~10-20g (forgot to check).
French requests audience.


Trinity engineer starts mining hill in Jayneland.

Destroyer kills indian clad + one hidden units. Now on black.

Tlax connected to El, Sup and BP with rail.

Thes fan kills aztec van in the way.

Chinese van is blocking our rail from BS, they are starting to get annoying.


1762 AD:
Knight attacks cav in Rheims, we win. Caravan establishes route.

Chinese vans seem to be stuck on our rail.
Indian clad attacks (and loses against) Holywood fanatic.

Berlin starts to worry me a bit, because of the barbs. (one dip is in cyberia, the other is at BF to bribe the (now killed) clad). Although elephants won't stand a chance against fortified vet-cavs on a river...

Bap harbor. (temple)
Dov harbor. (temple)
Sug MP. (aque)
Sup builds aque. (caravan)
Nemo MP. (caravan)
El aque. (van)
Eretria harbor. (engineer)
Rhodes harbor. (temple)
Int aque. (MP)
BP eng. (van)
FJ SM. (van)
BS SM. (van)
Tlax eng. (harbor, approaching knight)
Isa eng. (temple)
Delph temple. (van)
Igl SE. (SM)
FW SM. (van)
PB SM. (van)
Thermo eng. (harbor)
Sparta temple. (van)
Ipec SM. (van)
Neu SM. (van)
RF dye van. (eng)
Zim temple. (MP)

Bought stuff where needed.

Our cities are soon getting overripe for celebrations. As soon as the french are dealt with, hopefully next turn or in two turns depending on luck. Next oedo year is next year, so either we switch now, or wait 4 more years.

French war:
Grenoble found empty in Northern Cyberia, size 1, by destroyer. Can reach it next turn.
Orleans emptied, cav takes it. 51g, gran, MP, aque.
Request audience, decline. Attacks catapult.

Cav in Tlax moves out to kill knight on mountain, victory.

Sparta, Athens and Cor are connected by rail.

ML-Dou delivery: 33g\b, 5t/turn.

 

[funxus]

Things to consider:
How to deal with the barbs?

Is my way of finishing of the French all right. Grenoble won't be a problem. Paris shouldn't be a problem either for 5 vet cavs, despite the walls.

Anyone want to name the hill city in Jayneland? Maybe not a barb-name.

Next turn is an oedo-year. Can we manage the french next turn as a democracy. As long as we don't have any contact with the French after capturing Grenoble, can't we use Andu Indorin's senate trick? All the cities are at least ready for celebrations.

Is the spending satisfactory? I've bought everything I can whenever a city has had 1+ shields.

Without an engineer in Eretria that road was hard to start with. The food surplus in Hell isn't great either, so they can't support many more engineers.

The chinese are also getting on my nerves. I want them away from our rail. They probably will declare war if we ask them to leave, but I didn't want to do that without consulting the advisors.

Africa-Woodland Rail is complete, transfering troops to india is now a piece of cake.

We have 8 vans for trade delivery in RF, and 8 vans for work delivery in Neu. But now that most cities have finished their improvements, the amount of vans being produced is increasing.

I'm working this week, so I won't be here as much as I've been the past weeks, and I won't play until next weekend.

 

[TheViking]

Things are looking great and the MoDA is happy to see that Tlaxcala and Lahore now belong to us .

Since we have the Statue of Liberty oedo years do not matter. I think we should revolt now (or possibly next turn if troops outside cities are a problem). Following this we can start celebrating.

A fortified cavalry in Berlin will probably survive an elephant attack since the city is on a river but it would be a good idea to rush buy alpine troops there now just in case. Also the diplomat should enter the city to be ready to bribe barbs.

I wouldn't mind a war against the Chinese (mostly defensive at first), there is a ship to sink near VM plus the caravans. Another idea would be to simply bribe all of the Chinese caravans (doing nothing is not an option IMO, we must either bribe or kill the caravans).

I'd like to see one of the Hell engineers dedicated to constructing the Hell-Barbaria road even though there are not many engineers there. We'd add more engineers later (and all Hell cities that can build harbors should do so ASAP if they do not already have a harbor).

I'll soon take a more detailed look at the game (I just returned from vacation) but at a quick glance it seems the existing plans for the cities are still more or less valid. Caravans should be stockpiled in Coresux and some of the cities there may need to rush buy colosseums once we have celebrated for a few turns.

 

[funxus]

Welcome back Viking.

Bribing the caravans is a good alternative unless they cost too much. Anyone know how much they'd cost? Or should we have a limit? Otherwise they probably will declare war if we ask them to leave.

I also forgot about us having the statue. I usually skip it, so I never think about it...

 

[TheViking]

We should have a limit somewhere in the $300-600 range. If the caravans are cheap we should bribe them regardless of whether we start a war against the Chinese or not.

I forgot to mention that it would be really nice to have more than one big city in Barbaria. So unless Berlin soon grows to size 3 (I haven't checked that) maybe we should add an engineer to it to immediately get Berlin to size 3 so it can be celebrated to size 10-12 ?

 

[funxus]

Berlin is 5f away from size 3, and it has a surplus of 2-3f, which means we can get it to size 3 in three 3 turns. If we want to celebrate it, a caravan would also be nice so that we can get it a route to india.

From where should we take the engineer from that is to build the great road between Hell and Barbaria? Either from west or from south?

 

[TheViking]

One (or preferably two) of the engineers near Corinth can start constructing the Hell-Barbaria road. Cities like Corinth, Sparta and Argos could build additional engineers, they can easily support more than one engineer. These engineers should be rush built ASAP (finish any caravans and improvements first).

Yes, I now see that Berlin will soon grow - it's possible to speed this growth by working the river grassland square. I think we should add the engineer east of BBF to Barbieville to get that city to size 3, it can become a very big and powerful city. Loot can build a galleon instead of Barbieville.

How about naming the hill city in Jayneland "Viking's Holiday Resort" ?

 

[funxus]

Not that "Viking's Holiday Resort" is a bad name, but it's too long, "Viking's Resort" would work better.

 

[TheViking]

When will the next set of turns be played ?

 

[funxus]

I start school tomorrow, and I might be free on wednesday to play, otherwise next weekend. We need to discuss how to do with celebrations, for how long, when to start and what to do with the french.

 

[TheViking]

Hmmm... I thought everything having to do with democracy and celebrations had already been decided (see this poll) - maybe everyone was waiting for someone else to do something . The only question is for how long we celebrate but this does not need to be discussed until 5-10 turns from now when it starts becoming difficult to sustain the celebrations.

We should revolt now (or next turn if troops outside cities are a possible problem).

We can take both of the known French cities next turn (before democracy). We then need to find the only remaining city and capture unless the senate interferes.

In contrast to the above, after the next set of turns has been played we'll need to take a lot more detailed look at what to do, including science (!).

 

[funxus]

I had missed that last city.

I'll play this weekend. And I'll get the two known cities next turn, then revolt. The last french city I'll go on a hunt for, trying to avoid the senate.

 

[RedBull]

Yes, please play...I feel weird not having posted anything for a week because time has somehow stood still for our citizens for what would be about 30,000 years for them, lol

 

[funxus]

I'll play tomorrow I've decided.

 

[Duke of Marlbrough]

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