Nfl 2006

Darkness said:
Newman is good, but let's not name him the second coming of Champ Bailey just yet. OK?

And since when is Manning not good at spreading the ball around? If there's one QB in the league that can pick apart a defense with precision passing then it is Manning. He's got plenty of options: Harrison, Wayne, Clark, Addai, Fletcher, etcetera. Newman may be able to cover Harrison, but Henry can't cover Wayne 1-on-1. And Manning will definately be able to expose both Dallas' safeties (Sorry Zarn, but I am just not convinced about Roy Williams (seen 3 Cowboys games this season). He is weak in coverage, especially deep. If you can get behind him (and Indy's receivers can do that) then he's beaten. Great against the run though, as well as against the short passing game).

Newman is better, because Newman did not give up a TD last year or this year! Newman also doesn't allow big name receivers to get many yards. Henry is one of the best pass defenders in the league. Like I said, it is all mental errors. Fix that, and Dallas is solid. I watched all the games. They would have won every game, if it weren't were fixable mental errors.

You guys were exactly like this last year, too. Remember there being no way Dallas beats Philly, SD, or Carolina? Remember that Zarn was a stupid homer for believing it?
 
Stupid mental errors? Same thing with the Redskins, Texans, Titans, Vikings, Panthers, etc.... The reason teams lose is mental errors, you can't blame mental errors for losing.
 
Zarn said:
Newman is better, because Newman did not give up a TD last year or this year!

I hate stats like this. You know, if I played zone defense 24/7, I wouldn't be credited with giving up a touchdown either.
 
Zarn said:
Newman is better, because Newman did not give up a TD last year or this year!

Terrence Newman is better than Champ Bailey? :lol:

I don't mind anyone being a homer (I am the same as you when it is about football (European style, that is)), but a bit of realism doesn't hurt...

Dallas has got a good team, agreed. But it is not as good as you make it sound. The most obvious weakness on defense is the secondary and if you think that Peyton Manning won't exploit that weakness then you will be in for a big disappointment, IMHO.
 
AlCosta said:
Stupid mental errors? Same thing with the Redskins, Texans, Titans, Vikings, Panthers, etc.... The reason teams lose is mental errors, you can't blame mental errors for losing.

Are any of those teams top 5 in offense or defense?

Like I said, I'm not saying Dallas will definately win, but to say that Indy easily goes undisturbed until Jacksonville is very anti-Dallas. Dallas can match Indy's O, and they have the better D. It's in Irving! What else do you need for it to be a game?

I would get less hate from Eagles fans here. Alot of them actually think Dallas can beat Indy.
 
Dallas' O is no where near Indy's O, mainly because Indy's O is legendary at the moment. Newman is a top 5 corner...but we are giving up too many big plays on the safeties, and Henry is not holding up as well as Newman at times.

We run the kind of defense and have the combination of linebackers and defensive linemen that can disrupt Manning like Pittsburgh did last year, and we have the potential in the running game to control the clock, but I would rather worry about the return of Fitzgerald and the Arizona Cardinals this week.
 
Zarn said:
I would get less hate from Eagles fans here. Alot of them actually think Dallas can beat Indy.

Of course, I was born hating Dallas, so what do you expect? :p
 
Anthony Henry isn't nearly as fast as Newman or Aaron Glenn, but he's taller and plays more physically.

Aaron Glenn isn't as fast as Newman and is short compared to the WRs he lined up against. He makes fewer mental errors than Henry because he's older than the other DBs.

Bill Parcells isn't playing Aaron Glenn in the base formation because he has trouble covering posession receivers and needs help covering the speediest of receivers.
 
Henry has the problem Mario Edwards had, he just seems to get picked on for big plays in some games. Newman, I rarely ever see him burned. He basically has kept every reciever in check, and thats included Santana Moss & Steve Smith.

7000 WOOOOOOOT!!! :worship:
 
AlCosta said:
Stupid mental errors? Same thing with the Redskins, Texans, Titans, Vikings, Panthers, etc.... The reason teams lose is mental errors, you can't blame mental errors for losing.

Sure you can. Mental errors often lead to turnovers/big plays (and
usually some points) for the other team. Not to mention penalties.
 
I think Dallas is every bit as talented as Indy overall and better coached. It's just that their talent is more on the defensive side of the ball. Dallas can run and with Romo they are proving they can pass now. If New England could come within 7 points without any talented WR's and not running the ball like they should have, which is what kept them in the game at all, then Dallas has a very good chance at winning. Roy Williams got beat how many times? 3 times, 4 or 5 maybe? How many good plays does he have in comparison. To judge a player's ability from just a few mistakes is dumb. Not everyone has burned him deep every time. And everyone gets burned several times a year. I watch a lot of Dallas games, and yeah mental errors cost every team a loss, but Dallas is a little scary with the playmakers they have right now and I think they can roll with Indy in a shoot out. Especially when they seem to bring a better gameplan against good teams (I.E.: beating Carolina and losing to Washington) Not to mention one reason Manning did so well in New England was Rodney Harrison's early game injury. Manning wasn't doing a whole lot till he got hurt and then he suddenly looked like the great Manning. And yes Parcels is a far better coach than Dungy could ever imagine being. Even now when Parcells is starting to lose his touch. Dungy is a awesome Defensive Coach, nothing more than a nice guy, and not a good Head Coach.
 
tjedge1 said:
Dungy is a awesome Defensive Coach, nothing more than a nice guy, and not a good Head Coach.

Doesn't matter anyway. Peyton calls the plays at the line most of the time, and Moore will see what he doesn't see, so Dungy might as well stick to defense.

And I am not saying Roy Williams is a bad player. I am simply saying he is not as good as everyone says, and that his weakness is deep coverage and that Peyton will make use of that.
 
Many people think Roy can't cover at all, so I don't see how he is overrated in coverage. The guy has to cover both his guy and the guy that is being 'covered' by a FS a lot of the time.
 
Darkness said:
Doesn't matter anyway. Peyton calls the plays at the line most of the time

I was going to say, " isn't Payton their offensive coordinator anyway? " :lol:
 
I was going to stay away from the Roy Williams talk...but I just have to jump in. His strength is NOT coverage, but he is NOT awful at it. It doesn't help, however, when your ownership INSISTS on putting cruddy free safeties to "help" him. Keith Davis and a 5th round rookie do not a good safety make. Roy had to play FS one year because the free safeties we had (Lynn Scott...ACK!) were so damned awful.

Hell, convert Henry to safety, put Glenn at second and our fourth CB at the nickel :p I'm tired of seeing Keith Davis.

Roy Williams has not been as good in coverage since Woodson left. I for the life of me cannot figure out why Jerry Jones has not at least tried to get a free safety somewhere. I can understand him not wanting to overpay an overrated Archuleta like the Redskins did (and he was benched btw, nice one Snyder), but come on.

Oh, and I'm still calling a blowout against Indy. We just do not have the confidence right now, I think.
 
And once again, the craptacular Jags show up instead of the good Jags. I must need an Ouija board to figure out this team.
 
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