NitroJay's Late Start Saved Games

[kairob]

I think having all of them in would be best, except mabye ones that other civs control, like those in the ottoman empire. India was taken by the British later than their start right?

 

[NitroJay]

So how do you edit it? Do you run the Autoturns until your civ spawns, save, then edit all of the cities?

Pretty much. On the first turn after the autorun finishes, I save the game... I just use the world builder to either add a little to the civs that need it or take away from the overpowered ones... Exit the world builder, save again, voila.

My main question is what to do if a civ you want in has collapsed, all attempts by me to add them back in have lead to problems...

This is a good question, but I don't know the answer, I haven't had any problems with this yet...

 

[Rhye]

I have the answer. Restart the game.
If you just revive the dead civ, it'll keep using the stability modifiers that had when collapsed.
Or you could reset them by python

 

[kairob]

How would you reset them by python?

 

[NitroJay]

Carthage Start

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/100826/Start_Save_-_Carthage.CivWarlordsSave

Spoiler :

The year is 800 BC-ish. This save is almost identical to the Persian start, since it's only a few turns later. The only difference is that Egypt has begun it's invasion into the west bank... Also, Babylonia is a little farther along on it's own expansion into the middle east and Greece is a little farther along in it's expansion into modern day Turkey. Persia has just spawned and India and China are playing a balanced game. Again, all the wonders from this period are in place and Stonehenge is still unbuilt.

I hope to do a historical start for Rome next, since its almost the same as Carthage anyway... Maybe Japan today too if I have time... Then I'll get started on some of the longer wait times civs...

 

[TrailblazingScot]

Hehe, Stonehenge is unbuilt...a wonder that will never get built in England at present unless I've missed something.

 

[Edungeon]

If you build a Barbarian City and put Stonehenge in it, and then raze it ( in game i believe ) the Wonder will be destroyed forever?

 

[NitroJay]

Well, I thought about razing it... But I figure it's best to just leave it unbuilt for now... When I do the civs after England spawns, I'll probably put it in London, but it'd be obsolete by then... The culture will be it's only power.

I didn't build the barbarian city in England and put it there because I was afraid it would mess up the English spawn...

 

[sdLeo]

My main question is what to do if a civ you want in has collapsed, all attempts by me to add them back in have lead to problems...

I suppose you can reload until you get it...

 

[Lone Wolf]

Hwo about doing the same thing for us poor vanilla users?

 

[NitroJay]

I would love to do it for vanilla too... I just have to find my CD!!! I swear I've lost it... I have to work this weekend, so I won't be doing either again until Monday when I get home... But maybe I'll look online for a no-CD patch for vanilla, I'm just worried about the weird effects from those things...

 

[NitroJay]

Rome Start

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/100826/Start_Save_-_Rome.CivWarlordsSave

Spoiler :

Here's the start for Rome in 750 BC. Carthage is only a turn or two old, the last major dynasty of Egypt is in power and is at war with the Babylonians... Egypt's days are numbered now. The Babylonians are at the height of their power, Greece is expanding into modern day Turkey, Persia is massing their forces for their Babylonian invasion and China and India continue to stay unnoticed but stable in the East.

I'm hoping to get to Japan and Vikings (a lot of work I feel...) tonight before I leave for work in the morning.

 

[Edungeon]

What about Rome having + units than in the normal game? because this way the player will have the chance to make the old Roman UHV...

 

[NitroJay]

Once I get done with all of the historical starts, I was thinking about going back in and just doing mini-scenarios for Rhye's mod... Similar to what I'm doing now, but on a more invasive scale. I'm trying my best now to not change too much, to just shape the world as it was at each civ's birth... I'm hoping this makes the UHVs more attainable... Once I finish all of the civs, I was thinking about a Roman conquer-the-world style scenario that would start later, maybe 550 BC or so with a more built up Rome and larger beginning army.

But I agree, the Roman UHV is pretty hard... Especially with the Romans being born into my 750 BC created world... In 750 BC, Greece is just beginning their expansion and Babylonia is pretty powerful... I might try a game at work this weekend with my save and see how far I can get toward the UHV as Rome...

 

[Whitefire]

Mind if I help you out with Vanilla? I'll just copy your Warlords saves.

 

[NitroJay]

Mind if I help you out with Vanilla? I'll just copy your Warlords saves.

By all means! Go right ahead! I'm almost finished with Japan now, so it should be up in another hour or so... I figure I'll try to get the Vikings done by tonight before I leave for work tomorrow morning... So that should be up as well. If you decide to do the vanilla's I'll be happy to add them into this thread or you can start another one, whichever you prefer.

 

[Mowque]

do we have to go through you to submit alt-history for vanillia?, or just post them. don't want to threadjack.

 

[NitroJay]

No, just go ahead and post them here, I'm not going to freak out. Even just first-turn, unaltered saves would be great here too. I'll link to them on the first page.

 

[Mowque]

cool, might be neat to have some faster way then waiting a bunch of turns each time, never played Aztec, Inca or USA becuase of that

 

[NitroJay]

Japan Start

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/100826/Start_Save_-_Japan.CivWarlordsSave

This is the last of the ancient civs... I'm probably not going to get to the Vikings until Tuesday, but I'll start tonight and you never know...

As for this save:

Spoiler :

Japan begins in the year 650 BC. China is running a little behind now, it's not quite time for the historical Chinese unification, so their cities are poorly defended and not yet connected by roads. As for the more distant civs, India is falling behind, Persia is about to begin their invasion into Babylonia, the Babylonians have just passed their peak and are ready to be conquered, having never made it into Egypt. Eygpt has passed it's prime as well. Greece is a few years away from Alexander, but the potential is there. Carthage is off to a solid start and Rome has begun the Republic. All of the wonders that were built at this time are in the proper place with the exception of Stonehenge... not yet built...!?

I can't wait to get started on the LATER civs... From the Vikings on is when the autoplay turns tend to send history askew... Maybe tonight, probably Tuesday. I'll at least try to get some screenshots posted while I am at work this weekend.