No wonder Succession Game: Slowboat to Alpha Centauri
- Thread starter Old n Slow
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TheViking
The world is not enough
Yes, better ships would be nice.
Our empire is growing very nicely now and getting superhighways in the big cities will be fun.
I notice one long term problem. If an AI spaceship gets launched and is scheduled to arrive before ours we need to have time/military forces to raze the capital of the AI civ(s) that launched and if the AI civ is rich we might need to do this several times. The reason is that all of the AI capitals contain wonders and an AI civ might move their capital to another city containing wonders. So we might need lots of nukes and spies (meaning a lot of fun
).
So I think we should expand, expand, expand. We especially need to establish presence closer to the Egyptians by founding cities on e.g. the island east of South Observ ASAP (IIRC Tim mentioned this). Also I think we should destroy the Mongols and 1-3 other AI civs. We now have the techs to start this although getting artillery first might make sense.
Last but not least I think we should add veteran alpine troops to St. Louis' defenses. Actually I'd be tempted to attempt to start a war with the Carthaginians now and kill their troops. We really need a fortress somewhere west of St. Louis, plus maybe a city in order to be able to occupy a fortress on the mountain ENE of Caralis without unhappiness problems (or maybe a city on the mountain ?).
EDIT: We need far more military units on our main island. The French are not that far away and might invade, thus greatly delaying our progress.
Our empire is growing very nicely now and getting superhighways in the big cities will be fun.
I notice one long term problem. If an AI spaceship gets launched and is scheduled to arrive before ours we need to have time/military forces to raze the capital of the AI civ(s) that launched and if the AI civ is rich we might need to do this several times. The reason is that all of the AI capitals contain wonders and an AI civ might move their capital to another city containing wonders. So we might need lots of nukes and spies (meaning a lot of fun
).So I think we should expand, expand, expand. We especially need to establish presence closer to the Egyptians by founding cities on e.g. the island east of South Observ ASAP (IIRC Tim mentioned this). Also I think we should destroy the Mongols and 1-3 other AI civs. We now have the techs to start this although getting artillery first might make sense.
Last but not least I think we should add veteran alpine troops to St. Louis' defenses. Actually I'd be tempted to attempt to start a war with the Carthaginians now and kill their troops. We really need a fortress somewhere west of St. Louis, plus maybe a city in order to be able to occupy a fortress on the mountain ENE of Caralis without unhappiness problems (or maybe a city on the mountain ?).
EDIT: We need far more military units on our main island. The French are not that far away and might invade, thus greatly delaying our progress.
Old n Slow
Emperor
A strategy yet to be considered is the stockpiling of commodity trucks. By having our wealth in undelevered freight, we won't be as subjected to cash pressure from the ai, nor will we be rated so high in power as to deter the ai from wonder building activity.
Yet we will be able to quickly launch a spaceship and if necessary, launch a war.
Yet we will be able to quickly launch a spaceship and if necessary, launch a war.
TimTheEnchanter
I...am...an Enchanter!
I agree with most of these points, particularly getting a stronger presence (and transportation network) near the Egyptians and Babylonians. I think we should expand toward them from both sides - expanding East from Cunaxa/South Observ. and expanding south and west from Cremona. If not, we could potentially get beaten by a fast ship.Originally posted by TheViking
Yes, better ships would be nice.
Our empire is growing very nicely now and getting superhighways in the big cities will be fun.
I notice one long term problem. If an AI spaceship gets launched and is scheduled to arrive before ours we need to have time/military forces to raze the capital of the AI civ(s) that launched and if the AI civ is rich we might need to do this several times. The reason is that all of the AI capitals contain wonders and an AI civ might move their capital to another city containing wonders. So we might need lots of nukes and spies (meaning a lot of fun
So I think we should expand, expand, expand. We especially need to establish presence closer to the Egyptians by founding cities on e.g. the island east of South Observ ASAP (IIRC Tim mentioned this). Also I think we should destroy the Mongols and 1-3 other AI civs. We now have the techs to start this although getting artillery first might make sense.
Last but not least I think we should add veteran alpine troops to St. Louis' defenses. Actually I'd be tempted to attempt to start a war with the Carthaginians now and kill their troops. We really need a fortress somewhere west of St. Louis, plus maybe a city in order to be able to occupy a fortress on the mountain ENE of Caralis without unhappiness problems (or maybe a city on the mountain ?).
The one thing I disagree with is getting rid of several civs. The smaller civs like Carthage, americans, and even the mongols could potentially build apollo, but they are too small to build a fast ship before us. The only risk would be if they develop nuclear weapons and hurt our productivity (or divert it to building SDI instead of SS parts. Furthermore, seeing the payouts from trade deliveries to the mongols, we should probably keep them around a while.
TheViking
The world is not enough
And to add one point: "BUILD CITY WALLS !!!". Given how the Mongols behaved during my reign (and apparently Tim's as well) building them in Khanbalyk would be really useful, plus veteran AT. And growing one city (probably Bokhara Academy) on the Mongol island to big size would be very useful.
Coastal fortresses in some cities might be useful.
Regarding the destruction of some AI civs, in my experience we have no reason to fear having problems getting one of the remaining AI civs to build Apollo.
Coastal fortresses in some cities might be useful.
Regarding the destruction of some AI civs, in my experience we have no reason to fear having problems getting one of the remaining AI civs to build Apollo.
I'd like to keep all 6 AI civs around till SpaceFlight - although they do not need to be full-sized. My guess would be the Americans or the French for completing Apollo, followed by the Carths or Egypt. With a little bit of stockpiling we could build a really fast ship in only one turn, so I'm not worried about the ship, and once Apollo is build we can "loose the dogs of Mars". I would really not like to see Manhattan Project completed anywhere, and I think we could set up some ship chains to our own remote islands once SuperHighways make those payoffs better. That would keep us from "blessing" the AI civs with our deliveries so much. AI payoffs will still be better, but we are going to want to taper off towards them as we get closer to SpaceFlight. We probably ought to knock out any offensive AI naval units, just to keep the sea lanes clear till we get Airports.
Who is up next?
Who is up next?
Old n Slow
Emperor
golem, followed by the top of the order.
Old n Slow
Emperor
Speaking of missing in action, I'll be out of town next week with little expectation of having private time or with a computer -- skip me for now & I'll catch up later. 
Sounds good. It would be a shame to lose a weekend, since that is most people's prime playing time. If golem shows up but a little too late, I'm sure he could just take the next turn.
I just hope nothing has happened to him. I left my last golem out in a rainstorm, and he melted back into a mud puddle. I was very disappointed, all I got back was the carrot nose.
You see, it's happening again, I'm getting so attached to my golems that I anthropomorphize them!
I just hope nothing has happened to him. I left my last golem out in a rainstorm, and he melted back into a mud puddle. I was very disappointed, all I got back was the carrot nose.
You see, it's happening again, I'm getting so attached to my golems that I anthropomorphize them!
golem
Warlord
Mud is OK, but why carrot? I am not a snowman.
I wrote to the forum that I come back from skiing on Sunday 14th and I suggested Old'n'Slw to play instead of me. Buit it a long time ago.
I will take next turn after ElephantU.
I wrote to the forum that I come back from skiing on Sunday 14th and I suggested Old'n'Slw to play instead of me. Buit it a long time ago.
I will take next turn after ElephantU.
golem
Warlord
OH GOD !! I see it was my fault. I wrote (5th March) that I will be out till next Monday - in English it means till 7th. in Czech till 14th. The words are the same, meaning different.
Forgive poor barbarian!
Forgive poor barbarian!
Progress Report:
- Half done - finish tonight
- St Louis lost and recovered
- Auto discovered, SuperHighways being rushed selectively
- 4/6 AI Receptive, CeaseFires (wish we kept this Classic/2.42...)
- good delivery bonuses from French
- more exploration of south areas
- Half done - finish tonight
- St Louis lost and recovered
- Auto discovered, SuperHighways being rushed selectively
- 4/6 AI Receptive, CeaseFires (wish we kept this Classic/2.42...)
- good delivery bonuses from French
- more exploration of south areas
Conan the Elephant rises to Governor of Celti-fohrniah...again...
F1:WoW!
42 cities! 3x20+, 12x10-19, 21x3-9, 6x2
(I havent managed something this big in over a year! Now I
really feel like Ah-nold!)
F2:
31 Engineers, 16 defenders, 9x pre-GP mounted, 4x Drag/Calv
1 Ironclad (that's it?) protecting 13 Transports
14 Dips
1 caravan(Food) & 9 freights (34 in production!)
Sh-T:
Democracy, 70Tax,0Sci,30Lux (473 turns, 1808 income-374 maint)
remove Sci: 1890b(got 3/5, about 1100b)
F3:
We are Supreme, and our Rep is Excellent (but not Spotless?)
-Babs: Fundy, Receptive, Peace, 13 cities, allied Fre&Egy
-French: Repub, Enraged, WAR, 12/13 cities, allied Bab/Egy/Mong
-Egyptians: Repub, Enraged, WAR, 15 cities, allied Bab&Fre
-Americans: Commy, Enraged, WAR, 9 cities, no alliances (yet)
-Carth: Repub, Receptive, CeaseFire, 11 cities, no alliances
-Mongols: Republic(?), Enraged, WAR, 7 cities, allied French
F4:
No cities in disorder (thanks LF!), a few red faces
F5:
Lots of Temples,MP,Hb,CH,Cath; few Libraries, 1 University,
2 Factories, 1 Coastal Fort and 1 Barracks
Demand:
Salt, Oil= NONE
Hide,Wool,Bead,Cloth= Mongols
rest spread around
F6:
53 techs (22 white), researching Combustion (~3/5)
reviewing F3: French & Egypt have ThGrav, Amer & Carth have Commy
F7:
All 14 Ancient & Renaissance Wonders built, 5 Indust & 1 Modern
re-reviewing F3: only Americans building UN
F8:
Paris(8) has 3 WoW: Col,Mag,ASTC
Thebes(11) has 2: GL & Shake
Lyons(17) has 1: HG
re-re-reviewing F7: Carth, Washington, Babylon each 2 WoW
(capital cities with wonders could be problems...)
F11:
6th in Literacy, 7th in Pollution and Military Service
Map review:
St Louis has a Carth problem: ceasefire?
looks like the ship chain is sheltering in cities
dont know much about Egypt
Freights:
-MG Wine near Kashgar(d)
-Khan Coal in Ormuz (D: Paris, Wash, Memphis, Muddy Gardens)
-NoCol2 Gems,BP Gold,DP Salt in NoCol
-NoWoW Wine in Rhondda
-Issus Copper,SP Silk in Cuxana
Lux 30% for WLTPD growth: 16 cities growing
Diplomacy:
...meet Recep Carth: 2R,gift several to Worsh,peace?no,exch maps
(back to Recep)
...Mongols won't talk
...meet Enraged Amer: 1R,dem 50g for CeaseFire,gift Ref to Neut
(now up to Recep)
...Recep Babs: 4R,gift several to Worsh,sh maps
(back to Recep)
...meet Enraged Egypt: dem 850g - NO
...meet Enraged French: dem 250g for CeaseFire,gift Ref to Neut
(now up to Recep)
SO: got two CFs for 300g, Bab maps (show Egyptian cities),4xRecep
T/S/L:
...chg to T20S50L30 to finish Combust
French govmt chg to Republic
Americans abandon UN; restart UN...
American Calv approaches Leos fort
Carth emmisary: 1000g?no
Carth break CF! capture StL 51g,get Steel,attack Ormuz too
Mong govmt Mon
Eng Issus,Aqau NofCart,Hbr SthObserv,Cath Leos,Hbr Ormuz,
Cath NoCol,Aqua Iona,Gems Bokha,Hides MG,Silk Kells,Silv Card
WLTPD NoCol2,DP
COMBUSTION; start Auto(vs Amph,Comm,E2,Gen,MT,ThG)
POP>24M
1810ad(1): 3098g,0b,3t@2035b,
...bribe StL back 782g(-205g plunder),has MP,Calv,Drag,2xCan,get
COMMUNISM(now 2072b; hurts Cathedrals)
...Carth offer CF,Senate forces! (hmmm: Commy sounds good)
...Carth ironclad next to Ormuz wants 549g-no
(AACK: DateLine between Rhondda and NoCol2!)
...MG Wine to Kashgar(4,d): 600g/b,noTRchg
...build NewIssus,SouthWhale to get more ports on SIsland
Bab get Corp from Fr
Eg dev Corp
Carth Commy
Peasant revolt near BigProd(3+Musk)
Temple newIssus,StL,Dip BigProd,Cath SP,NoWoW
WLTPD Cremona,SP,NoWoW
1812ad(2): 2144g,1385b,3t
...Enraged Mong: 0R,dem Conscr for CeaseFire,Uncoop
...NoCol2 Gems to Karakorum(8,d): 246g/b,+4TR
...NoWoW Wine to Kashgar(4,d): 460g/b,noTRchg
...research bar full,change a few cities to prestart SH
Fre get Comm fr Amer for ThG
Amer get Tac fr Carth for ThG
Amer get Steel fr Carth
Peasant revolt near StL(#2)
Temple SthWhale,
AUTOMOBILE; start Tools
Silv FordExp
disorder BokAcad
WLTPD DinPow,Dip NewSy,Wine Cork,Hides MG,Pollu MG,Dip FLimWall,Hides Cardifff
POP>25M
1814ad(3): 2660g,807b,3t (Amer,Carth,Mong Hostile)
...Hostile Mong 0R wants Tactics or Auto:no
...bribe Barb Musket 61g x2; 2nd destroys first outbreak
...RB SH NoWoW 392g, Rhondda 380g, Swansea 394g, Beaver 376g
...Mktplace newIssus 138g
...bribe Mong Cannon by Khan 266g, disband for freight
...chg T70S0L30
Fre dev E2,start Hoover
French Dest off Cunaxa
Egypt get E2 fr Fre
Carth activity SW StL
Mong govmt othro
Mktpla newIssus,Silk KFC,Spi PShore,Dip BigProd,Coal Khan,
SH Beaver,Eng Llang,Dip NoCol,Durrow,SH Swan,Rhon,Hides Quickie,
SH NoWoW,Dip Kells
1816ad(4): 1686g,825b,118t@18b (Amer,Carth Recep; Mong Hostile)
...bribe Barb cannon 82g,kill Barb Musk,disband
...MG Hides to Tabriz(4,d): 540g/b,nochg
...RB HS Cardiff 350g,Flimsy 390g,Muddy 348g,Cork 384g,NewSy 374g
...Salt ashore France to map RR: got none?
(Hmmm: Amer,Carth chg to Hostile?)
Egypt start Hoover
Hostil Carth demand evacuate near Panormus
Silk PubLib,Gems NewtFig,Gold NWhales,Silk Cremona,Wine Abery,
Silk Iona,SH NewSyb,Cork,Muddy,Flimsy,Card,WLTPD BigProd
POP>26M
1818ad(5): 1931g,843b,118t (Amer,Carth Receptive again)
...PShore Spice to Tours(12,d): 186g/b,+4TR(1st)
...Kells Silk to Lyons(18,d): 564g/b,+6TR(repl 2nd)
...Cardiff Silv to Lyons(18,nd): 561g/b,+18TR(repl 3rd)
...uhoh: Carth has a Cruiser out...
...RB SH Kells 386g, Illuan 360g,Durrow 396g,Darkhse 384g
...SH NoCol 398g; Coll Quickie 194g, Aqua BigProd 128g
(now Amer,Mong Hostile)
Babs get E2 fr French
Carth govmt Democ; govmt othro- break ceasefire!
lost: Transport,Rifle,Calv,2xEng!
Aqua BigProd,Beads Beaver
MACH TOOLS; start MassProd(vs E2,Esp,MobWar,ThG) /2146b
SH NoCol-WLTPD,SH Darkhse,Durrow,Illuant,Coll Quickie-WLTPD
SH Kells
1820ad(6): 2203g,18b,120t (Carth Enraged,Amer Recep)
...bribe Barb Musket 61g,kill Musket+Ldr,disband
...Carth Calv-Cannon want 1400-700g
...kill 3x Carth Cannon, 2x Calv
...Leo's BB goes hunting...
...DinPow Salt to Lyons(19,nd): 250g/b,+6TR
...RB SH Iona 386g, Aberyst 378g
Babs start Hoover
Amer dev E2
Carth attack
disorder newIssus
Gems Cunaxa,Beads NoCol2,Silv Ormuz
SH Aber,Iona,Wine Muddy,Cloth Card
POP>27M
1822ad(7): 3016g,286b,120t
...bribe last Barb Musket 61g
...Cremona Silk land Amer, map RRs, to Chicago(8,d): 204g/b,+4TR
...NewtFig Gems to Karakorum(8,d): 186g/b,+3TR
...Cork Wine to Kashgar(4,d): 472g/b,noTRchg
...Aberyst Wine to Kashgar(4,d): 285g/b,noTRchg
...RB SH Quickie 396g, Leos 380g, BigProd 368g
Carth dev Amph; dead cruiser promotes BB to Vet!
SH BigProd,WLTPD; Eng Issus; SH Leos; WLTPD Llang, SH Quickie
pollution Muddy, Cardiff (getting to be problem w/o Eng!)
1824ad(8): 3832g,1451b,120t
...BigProd Gold to Grenoble(7,d): 890g/b,+9TR(3rd)
...FordExp Silv to Washington(8,d): 155g/b,+4TR(1st)
...Khan Coal to Malaca(7,d): 130g/b,+3TR(1st)
...Bokhara Gems to Gades(2,d): 150g/b,+2TR(1st)
...Egypt Eng lands on southern continent: bribe 400g!
...talk to Egypt(5R): want 1000g- forget it,"war" continues
...Hostile Mongols(0R) want Tactics or Auto-no
...RB SH Cunaxa 380g
Babs near Hoover,dev Comm
Carth destroyer kills transport with one freight
Mong get Ldr from Fre
Egy dev GenEng, get Ref from Bab for Metal
Mong get Feud fr Fre
Silk newIssus,FordExp,LasVeg;WLTPD Cannae,SH Cunaxa,Gems SthPla,
Silk SthObserv,Gold BokAcad
MASS PRODUCTION; start E2 (vs Esp...)/2183b
Wine Ormuz,Gold Aberyst,Beads NoCol,Oil Dark,Durrow,Rhond,NewSyb,
Hides Muddy,Gold NoWoW,Kells,Hides Card
Flimsy needs Sewer
(2nd lesson: dont hit Casualty Timeline till end!)
1826ad(9): 5052g,21b,81t@27b
...Cruiser kills Carth Destroyer
...Muddy Hides to Nishapur(1,d): 1104g/b,noTRchg
ack- no more Hides demand!
...Cardiff Hides to Karakorum(8,nd): 459g/b,noTRchg
...Quickie Hides to Karak(8,nd): 225g/b,keep 1stTR +7
...bribe Mong Crusader 298g (just for the h*** of it)
...chg T20S50L30 for 2t/1131b techs (need ~400b)
...RB MT Illaunt 290g, BigProd 306g, setup more
...RB SH Llang 380g, Sewers Flimsy 194g, Aqua DinPow 114g
...RB SH NoCol2 370g
...Recep French: 3R,want Tactics(no),peace?scoff
...Recep Amer: 1R,gift MassProd to Enth,peace?scoff,no maps
Hoover in Samarra, Babs chg to UN
UN in Eridu (Babs)! Amer chg to Newtons
French break CeaseFire! kill 2 empty transports
(why does that seem to happen after talking to them?)
Fr get Tactics fr Amer
Newtons in SanFran
Barb Frigate by NoCol!
Cloth KFC,Beads PubLib,Oil NewtFig,Wine PShore,Silk OldRiv
Coal Cannae,Wine Cremona,Eng Issus,Gems Leos,Oil Khan
MT BigProd, SH NoCol2,Aqua DinPow,SH Llang
ELECTRONICS; start Min
WLTPD Swansea,MT Illaunt,WLTPD Rhondda,Iona,Cork,
Cloth Bokhara,Sewer Flimsy,WLTPD Flimsy, Hides Quickie,WLTPD
pollution by NewSybase
1828ad: 4621g,~790b,2t
...Gold BokAcad to Malaca(7,d): 162g/b,+3TR(1st)
...Wine Ormuz to Malaca(7,nd): 76g/b,+5TR(1st)
...Kells Gold to Rusicade(12,nd): 303g/b,+10TR(upgr 3rd)
...Darkhouse Oil to MuddyGdns(22,d): 607g/b,+11TR(both)
...NofCart cruiser kills Carth Frigate,VET
...Way2Egypt(23,105)+3F,6T,3Sh: start Rifle
...Issus Copper to Karak(8,d): 220g/b,+2TR(1st)
...BeaverDam Beads to Karak(8,nd): 561g/b,+15TR(repl 1st)
WOW: 6.99 techs in 10 turns while rushing SH and MTs!
I left the city production untouched. We need some more
SuperHighways, MassTransits, and a bunch of Libraries if we
are going to go for 2 techs/turn.
I've been working to get rid of Issus, and doing some more
exploring down south. I've rushed a Rifle in Way2Egypt.
The French just broke the ceasefire. The Carth have been
quiet, and Egypt just wants 1000g to make up.
Mongol, Carth and American cities have been good for deliveries;
French was, but I had no navy there to patrol. There's a
Battleship and 2 Cruisers patrolling off Carthage
Betware the ship chain crossing from Rhondda to NoCol2: it
crosses the dateline...
The save: co_a1828.sav
F1:WoW!
42 cities! 3x20+, 12x10-19, 21x3-9, 6x2
(I havent managed something this big in over a year! Now I
really feel like Ah-nold!)
F2:
31 Engineers, 16 defenders, 9x pre-GP mounted, 4x Drag/Calv
1 Ironclad (that's it?) protecting 13 Transports
14 Dips
1 caravan(Food) & 9 freights (34 in production!)
Sh-T:
Democracy, 70Tax,0Sci,30Lux (473 turns, 1808 income-374 maint)
remove Sci: 1890b(got 3/5, about 1100b)
F3:
We are Supreme, and our Rep is Excellent (but not Spotless?)
-Babs: Fundy, Receptive, Peace, 13 cities, allied Fre&Egy
-French: Repub, Enraged, WAR, 12/13 cities, allied Bab/Egy/Mong
-Egyptians: Repub, Enraged, WAR, 15 cities, allied Bab&Fre
-Americans: Commy, Enraged, WAR, 9 cities, no alliances (yet)
-Carth: Repub, Receptive, CeaseFire, 11 cities, no alliances
-Mongols: Republic(?), Enraged, WAR, 7 cities, allied French
F4:
No cities in disorder (thanks LF!), a few red faces
F5:
Lots of Temples,MP,Hb,CH,Cath; few Libraries, 1 University,
2 Factories, 1 Coastal Fort and 1 Barracks
Demand:
Salt, Oil= NONE
Hide,Wool,Bead,Cloth= Mongols
rest spread around
F6:
53 techs (22 white), researching Combustion (~3/5)
reviewing F3: French & Egypt have ThGrav, Amer & Carth have Commy
F7:
All 14 Ancient & Renaissance Wonders built, 5 Indust & 1 Modern
re-reviewing F3: only Americans building UN
F8:
Paris(8) has 3 WoW: Col,Mag,ASTC
Thebes(11) has 2: GL & Shake
Lyons(17) has 1: HG
re-re-reviewing F7: Carth, Washington, Babylon each 2 WoW
(capital cities with wonders could be problems...)
F11:
6th in Literacy, 7th in Pollution and Military Service
Map review:
St Louis has a Carth problem: ceasefire?
looks like the ship chain is sheltering in cities
dont know much about Egypt
Freights:
-MG Wine near Kashgar(d)
-Khan Coal in Ormuz (D: Paris, Wash, Memphis, Muddy Gardens)
-NoCol2 Gems,BP Gold,DP Salt in NoCol
-NoWoW Wine in Rhondda
-Issus Copper,SP Silk in Cuxana
Lux 30% for WLTPD growth: 16 cities growing
Diplomacy:
...meet Recep Carth: 2R,gift several to Worsh,peace?no,exch maps
(back to Recep)
...Mongols won't talk
...meet Enraged Amer: 1R,dem 50g for CeaseFire,gift Ref to Neut
(now up to Recep)
...Recep Babs: 4R,gift several to Worsh,sh maps
(back to Recep)
...meet Enraged Egypt: dem 850g - NO
...meet Enraged French: dem 250g for CeaseFire,gift Ref to Neut
(now up to Recep)
SO: got two CFs for 300g, Bab maps (show Egyptian cities),4xRecep
T/S/L:
...chg to T20S50L30 to finish Combust
French govmt chg to Republic
Americans abandon UN; restart UN...
American Calv approaches Leos fort
Carth emmisary: 1000g?no
Carth break CF! capture StL 51g,get Steel,attack Ormuz too
Mong govmt Mon
Eng Issus,Aqau NofCart,Hbr SthObserv,Cath Leos,Hbr Ormuz,
Cath NoCol,Aqua Iona,Gems Bokha,Hides MG,Silk Kells,Silv Card
WLTPD NoCol2,DP
COMBUSTION; start Auto(vs Amph,Comm,E2,Gen,MT,ThG)
POP>24M
1810ad(1): 3098g,0b,3t@2035b,
...bribe StL back 782g(-205g plunder),has MP,Calv,Drag,2xCan,get
COMMUNISM(now 2072b; hurts Cathedrals)
...Carth offer CF,Senate forces! (hmmm: Commy sounds good)
...Carth ironclad next to Ormuz wants 549g-no
(AACK: DateLine between Rhondda and NoCol2!)
...MG Wine to Kashgar(4,d): 600g/b,noTRchg
...build NewIssus,SouthWhale to get more ports on SIsland
Bab get Corp from Fr
Eg dev Corp
Carth Commy
Peasant revolt near BigProd(3+Musk)
Temple newIssus,StL,Dip BigProd,Cath SP,NoWoW
WLTPD Cremona,SP,NoWoW
1812ad(2): 2144g,1385b,3t
...Enraged Mong: 0R,dem Conscr for CeaseFire,Uncoop
...NoCol2 Gems to Karakorum(8,d): 246g/b,+4TR
...NoWoW Wine to Kashgar(4,d): 460g/b,noTRchg
...research bar full,change a few cities to prestart SH
Fre get Comm fr Amer for ThG
Amer get Tac fr Carth for ThG
Amer get Steel fr Carth
Peasant revolt near StL(#2)
Temple SthWhale,
AUTOMOBILE; start Tools
Silv FordExp
disorder BokAcad
WLTPD DinPow,Dip NewSy,Wine Cork,Hides MG,Pollu MG,Dip FLimWall,Hides Cardifff
POP>25M
1814ad(3): 2660g,807b,3t (Amer,Carth,Mong Hostile)
...Hostile Mong 0R wants Tactics or Auto:no
...bribe Barb Musket 61g x2; 2nd destroys first outbreak
...RB SH NoWoW 392g, Rhondda 380g, Swansea 394g, Beaver 376g
...Mktplace newIssus 138g
...bribe Mong Cannon by Khan 266g, disband for freight
...chg T70S0L30
Fre dev E2,start Hoover
French Dest off Cunaxa
Egypt get E2 fr Fre
Carth activity SW StL
Mong govmt othro
Mktpla newIssus,Silk KFC,Spi PShore,Dip BigProd,Coal Khan,
SH Beaver,Eng Llang,Dip NoCol,Durrow,SH Swan,Rhon,Hides Quickie,
SH NoWoW,Dip Kells
1816ad(4): 1686g,825b,118t@18b (Amer,Carth Recep; Mong Hostile)
...bribe Barb cannon 82g,kill Barb Musk,disband
...MG Hides to Tabriz(4,d): 540g/b,nochg
...RB HS Cardiff 350g,Flimsy 390g,Muddy 348g,Cork 384g,NewSy 374g
...Salt ashore France to map RR: got none?
(Hmmm: Amer,Carth chg to Hostile?)
Egypt start Hoover
Hostil Carth demand evacuate near Panormus
Silk PubLib,Gems NewtFig,Gold NWhales,Silk Cremona,Wine Abery,
Silk Iona,SH NewSyb,Cork,Muddy,Flimsy,Card,WLTPD BigProd
POP>26M
1818ad(5): 1931g,843b,118t (Amer,Carth Receptive again)
...PShore Spice to Tours(12,d): 186g/b,+4TR(1st)
...Kells Silk to Lyons(18,d): 564g/b,+6TR(repl 2nd)
...Cardiff Silv to Lyons(18,nd): 561g/b,+18TR(repl 3rd)
...uhoh: Carth has a Cruiser out...
...RB SH Kells 386g, Illuan 360g,Durrow 396g,Darkhse 384g
...SH NoCol 398g; Coll Quickie 194g, Aqua BigProd 128g
(now Amer,Mong Hostile)
Babs get E2 fr French
Carth govmt Democ; govmt othro- break ceasefire!
lost: Transport,Rifle,Calv,2xEng!
Aqua BigProd,Beads Beaver
MACH TOOLS; start MassProd(vs E2,Esp,MobWar,ThG) /2146b
SH NoCol-WLTPD,SH Darkhse,Durrow,Illuant,Coll Quickie-WLTPD
SH Kells
1820ad(6): 2203g,18b,120t (Carth Enraged,Amer Recep)
...bribe Barb Musket 61g,kill Musket+Ldr,disband
...Carth Calv-Cannon want 1400-700g
...kill 3x Carth Cannon, 2x Calv
...Leo's BB goes hunting...
...DinPow Salt to Lyons(19,nd): 250g/b,+6TR
...RB SH Iona 386g, Aberyst 378g
Babs start Hoover
Amer dev E2
Carth attack
disorder newIssus
Gems Cunaxa,Beads NoCol2,Silv Ormuz
SH Aber,Iona,Wine Muddy,Cloth Card
POP>27M
1822ad(7): 3016g,286b,120t
...bribe last Barb Musket 61g
...Cremona Silk land Amer, map RRs, to Chicago(8,d): 204g/b,+4TR
...NewtFig Gems to Karakorum(8,d): 186g/b,+3TR
...Cork Wine to Kashgar(4,d): 472g/b,noTRchg
...Aberyst Wine to Kashgar(4,d): 285g/b,noTRchg
...RB SH Quickie 396g, Leos 380g, BigProd 368g
Carth dev Amph; dead cruiser promotes BB to Vet!
SH BigProd,WLTPD; Eng Issus; SH Leos; WLTPD Llang, SH Quickie
pollution Muddy, Cardiff (getting to be problem w/o Eng!)
1824ad(8): 3832g,1451b,120t
...BigProd Gold to Grenoble(7,d): 890g/b,+9TR(3rd)
...FordExp Silv to Washington(8,d): 155g/b,+4TR(1st)
...Khan Coal to Malaca(7,d): 130g/b,+3TR(1st)
...Bokhara Gems to Gades(2,d): 150g/b,+2TR(1st)
...Egypt Eng lands on southern continent: bribe 400g!
...talk to Egypt(5R): want 1000g- forget it,"war" continues
...Hostile Mongols(0R) want Tactics or Auto-no
...RB SH Cunaxa 380g
Babs near Hoover,dev Comm
Carth destroyer kills transport with one freight
Mong get Ldr from Fre
Egy dev GenEng, get Ref from Bab for Metal
Mong get Feud fr Fre
Silk newIssus,FordExp,LasVeg;WLTPD Cannae,SH Cunaxa,Gems SthPla,
Silk SthObserv,Gold BokAcad
MASS PRODUCTION; start E2 (vs Esp...)/2183b
Wine Ormuz,Gold Aberyst,Beads NoCol,Oil Dark,Durrow,Rhond,NewSyb,
Hides Muddy,Gold NoWoW,Kells,Hides Card
Flimsy needs Sewer
(2nd lesson: dont hit Casualty Timeline till end!)
1826ad(9): 5052g,21b,81t@27b
...Cruiser kills Carth Destroyer
...Muddy Hides to Nishapur(1,d): 1104g/b,noTRchg
ack- no more Hides demand!
...Cardiff Hides to Karakorum(8,nd): 459g/b,noTRchg
...Quickie Hides to Karak(8,nd): 225g/b,keep 1stTR +7
...bribe Mong Crusader 298g (just for the h*** of it)
...chg T20S50L30 for 2t/1131b techs (need ~400b)
...RB MT Illaunt 290g, BigProd 306g, setup more
...RB SH Llang 380g, Sewers Flimsy 194g, Aqua DinPow 114g
...RB SH NoCol2 370g
...Recep French: 3R,want Tactics(no),peace?scoff
...Recep Amer: 1R,gift MassProd to Enth,peace?scoff,no maps
Hoover in Samarra, Babs chg to UN
UN in Eridu (Babs)! Amer chg to Newtons
French break CeaseFire! kill 2 empty transports
(why does that seem to happen after talking to them?)
Fr get Tactics fr Amer
Newtons in SanFran
Barb Frigate by NoCol!
Cloth KFC,Beads PubLib,Oil NewtFig,Wine PShore,Silk OldRiv
Coal Cannae,Wine Cremona,Eng Issus,Gems Leos,Oil Khan
MT BigProd, SH NoCol2,Aqua DinPow,SH Llang
ELECTRONICS; start Min
WLTPD Swansea,MT Illaunt,WLTPD Rhondda,Iona,Cork,
Cloth Bokhara,Sewer Flimsy,WLTPD Flimsy, Hides Quickie,WLTPD
pollution by NewSybase
1828ad: 4621g,~790b,2t
...Gold BokAcad to Malaca(7,d): 162g/b,+3TR(1st)
...Wine Ormuz to Malaca(7,nd): 76g/b,+5TR(1st)
...Kells Gold to Rusicade(12,nd): 303g/b,+10TR(upgr 3rd)
...Darkhouse Oil to MuddyGdns(22,d): 607g/b,+11TR(both)
...NofCart cruiser kills Carth Frigate,VET
...Way2Egypt(23,105)+3F,6T,3Sh: start Rifle
...Issus Copper to Karak(8,d): 220g/b,+2TR(1st)
...BeaverDam Beads to Karak(8,nd): 561g/b,+15TR(repl 1st)
WOW: 6.99 techs in 10 turns while rushing SH and MTs!
I left the city production untouched. We need some more
SuperHighways, MassTransits, and a bunch of Libraries if we
are going to go for 2 techs/turn.
I've been working to get rid of Issus, and doing some more
exploring down south. I've rushed a Rifle in Way2Egypt.
The French just broke the ceasefire. The Carth have been
quiet, and Egypt just wants 1000g to make up.
Mongol, Carth and American cities have been good for deliveries;
French was, but I had no navy there to patrol. There's a
Battleship and 2 Cruisers patrolling off Carthage
Betware the ship chain crossing from Rhondda to NoCol2: it
crosses the dateline...
The save: co_a1828.sav
TimTheEnchanter
I...am...an Enchanter!
Phew! There's a lot of stuff going on right now. Looks like a very nice set of turns.
Golem next, right?
Golem next, right?
golem
Warlord
I will start to play tonight - I'll let you know what's new. It does not look as one evening game.
TimTheEnchanter
I...am...an Enchanter!
Take your time. I was just making sure it wasn' t my turn because on the original list, I followed Elephant.