Bleys
Deity
OK KK is up and ready to roll!
SG players, dont forget we have turns over there! (I still havent even had one, heh)
SG players, dont forget we have turns over there! (I still havent even had one, heh)
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grandad1982
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Oi! I played my SG set. So get your arses over there!
schwartz
King
Since many of us have finished the KK game, we should start discussing the leader/map for our next installment. Couple of ideas:
Peter (Exp/Phi)
Sitting Bull (Phi/Pro)
Brennus (Spi/Chm?)
Peter (Exp/Phi)
Sitting Bull (Phi/Pro)
Brennus (Spi/Chm?)
Rex rgis of Ter
Me I'm a Creator
Pericles is a good leader. He is arguably the best SE leader, which is always a good thing to study.
Jaaboo
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Sitting Bull would be interesting as that is a type of leader/civ that I would not normally choose. Sorta like a Qui but without the culture. I definately need help with my specialist economy though, so a Phi leader might be good.
Another fun leader might be Willem of Orange. The Dutch fondness for the sea and trade could make for a fun water game.
Another fun leader might be Willem of Orange. The Dutch fondness for the sea and trade could make for a fun water game.
Bleys
Deity
OK, so I see a general trend to follow PSs advice and look for a more SE oriented leader, since we havent really played one yet (Liz, despite being PHI, tends to perform well as a CE leader). So lets take a look at the PHI leaders and go from there.
On another note, we had sort of settled on 2 a month for these, but if there is a general feeling that more is better, I am all for it (as long as we can keep getting rolo to make the maps for us!). Speaking for myself, I have lots of free time (I dont work, mild disability), so it we want to go with 3 a month, thats fine by me, I am getting a LOT of benefit from these games, and between these and the LHCs, I am feeling even more confident with my play than ever.
Even if a some people cant play them all due to time constraints, thats no problem, there is no harm in only playing 2 or even 1 any given month. Since each has its own thread, people can easily pick and choose. Writing them up takes almost as long as playing, LOL, so its perfectly acceptable to me if folks play em and sort of gundeck the write up. No worries at all. I want to avoid any pressures like that. I am working on my own write-up technique, so I intend to try to do much better in that regard, but I dont want people avoiding the games because they dont want to do long involved reports. Play as many as you wish, and write as much as your comfortable with, no worries whatsoever.
My vote for next AI: Lincoln. The CHA trait is another we havent tried yet. Its a fun trait, extra happiness early, cheaper upgrades for units, lots of great synergy with SEs. We also mentioned Gandhi a while back, hes PHI and SPI, both strong SE traits for sure.
What map do want? We have done a Fract, a Continents, and a Pangaea. I dont mind keeping them secret, even, and letting rolo pick, but any is fine for me.
On another note, we had sort of settled on 2 a month for these, but if there is a general feeling that more is better, I am all for it (as long as we can keep getting rolo to make the maps for us!). Speaking for myself, I have lots of free time (I dont work, mild disability), so it we want to go with 3 a month, thats fine by me, I am getting a LOT of benefit from these games, and between these and the LHCs, I am feeling even more confident with my play than ever.
Even if a some people cant play them all due to time constraints, thats no problem, there is no harm in only playing 2 or even 1 any given month. Since each has its own thread, people can easily pick and choose. Writing them up takes almost as long as playing, LOL, so its perfectly acceptable to me if folks play em and sort of gundeck the write up. No worries at all. I want to avoid any pressures like that. I am working on my own write-up technique, so I intend to try to do much better in that regard, but I dont want people avoiding the games because they dont want to do long involved reports. Play as many as you wish, and write as much as your comfortable with, no worries whatsoever.
My vote for next AI: Lincoln. The CHA trait is another we havent tried yet. Its a fun trait, extra happiness early, cheaper upgrades for units, lots of great synergy with SEs. We also mentioned Gandhi a while back, hes PHI and SPI, both strong SE traits for sure.
What map do want? We have done a Fract, a Continents, and a Pangaea. I dont mind keeping them secret, even, and letting rolo pick, but any is fine for me.
Well Gandhi is a classic SE leader spi/philo for sure, and Pericles is probably one of the most powerful SE leader with all the right cheap builds and a good UB, Justinian is also one of the best.
While I do love those characters and have played SE's with them many times, it might be interesting to play a not so obvious choice. If were looking at philosophical, I think we shouldn't consider sulimen as he was in a recent LHC and obviously lizzie. I'm a fan of charismatic too, so maybe lincoln could be a good choice, I rarely play a leader with such late UU/UB.
Just one thing tho! I'm all warred out! I must have played the KK game about four times and still havn't won! you guys just make war look easy!
I'm kind of curious to let rolo pick the map type and such. It'll make an interesting game not knowing what to expect.
As for speed... If the game goes up I'll find time to play it, no problems there.
While I do love those characters and have played SE's with them many times, it might be interesting to play a not so obvious choice. If were looking at philosophical, I think we shouldn't consider sulimen as he was in a recent LHC and obviously lizzie. I'm a fan of charismatic too, so maybe lincoln could be a good choice, I rarely play a leader with such late UU/UB.
Just one thing tho! I'm all warred out! I must have played the KK game about four times and still havn't won! you guys just make war look easy!
I'm kind of curious to let rolo pick the map type and such. It'll make an interesting game not knowing what to expect.
As for speed... If the game goes up I'll find time to play it, no problems there.
TheMeInTeam
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I vote no on Lincoln. I WOULD like to see a Philo leader in the next one, as my SE game is also lacking. HOWEVER, Lincoln's charismatic lets him make philo ultra powerful, or simply ignored (heavy warmongering is powerful with charismatic). You could argue that he's good for learning it though. Either way. Still, I'd prefer someone a bit tougher, like SB/freddy, or Ghandi. ALTHOUGH, if we do Ghandi I'll probably try for conquest 
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Edit: I'm up for some charlie too.
.Edit: I'm up for some charlie too.
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Poor Freddy has been a whipping boy in 2 of thr last 3 games so if we HAVE to go with a phlilly leader maybe we should show him so love and pick him. ALTHOUGH if we did go with germany I do like Bizzy MUCH better.
If noone wants Freddy or wants to save germany/bizzy for later then how bout Pete? I'd rather play Russia than Greece just cuz if it was greece I KNOW I would end up trying a phalanx rush asap which means my desk might get cracked from pounding my head on it since I ALWAYS end up making spearmen insted of Phalanxes cuz their stupid graphics in build window look soooo much alike
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Kaytie
Poor Freddy has been a whipping boy in 2 of thr last 3 games so if we HAVE to go with a phlilly leader maybe we should show him so love and pick him. ALTHOUGH if we did go with germany I do like Bizzy MUCH better.
If noone wants Freddy or wants to save germany/bizzy for later then how bout Pete? I'd rather play Russia than Greece just cuz if it was greece I KNOW I would end up trying a phalanx rush asap which means my desk might get cracked from pounding my head on it since I ALWAYS end up making spearmen insted of Phalanxes cuz their stupid graphics in build window look soooo much alike
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You COULD just look at the letters next to the one you clicked on to be safe, KaytieKat .
Odd, I've not used greece much ever, which I find surprising considering the kind of player I am.
I'm up for anyone, really!
.Odd, I've not used greece much ever, which I find surprising considering the kind of player I am.
I'm up for anyone, really!
littlej
Chieftain
Yeah, I'm not very strong with a SE either but I may end up just going with obsolete's SSE/WE. Gandhi is my favourite Phil but any Phil would work.
grandad1982
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I'm into the idea of a more off the worn track approch with our next game - having said that this is my first KK game, played GK though. Can we play one, with a mid to late UU and UB, i.e. one of the Americans or maybe germany?
As KatyKat says, we could give Freddy some love! He's ORG and PHIL. Nice combo, and I rarely play ORG as a trait for some reason - Mehmed II being the notable exception. Late UU - anti tank-tank! - and Late UB.
Now I've mentioned him Mehmed two might be pretty fun. He's a good for REXing with a early/mid UU that can be pretty fun if its in early. Maybe get folks to try a tech path they wouldn't normally be so eager to follow. He's ORG and EXP.
As KatyKat says, we could give Freddy some love! He's ORG and PHIL. Nice combo, and I rarely play ORG as a trait for some reason - Mehmed II being the notable exception. Late UU - anti tank-tank! - and Late UB.
Now I've mentioned him Mehmed two might be pretty fun. He's a good for REXing with a early/mid UU that can be pretty fun if its in early. Maybe get folks to try a tech path they wouldn't normally be so eager to follow. He's ORG and EXP.
littlej
Chieftain
Yeah, Lincoln or Fred would be great. De Gaulle would be fun too but that's getting away from the SE (if that is the focus of our next game).
As for game time, we could do one every 2 weeks (as long as someone is willing to do the maps - thanks Rolo). Let's say a game gets posted every other weekend (or just before the weekend). Allow people to post game progress up to 1 AD the first week and then allow them to do their follow ups in the following week (in spoilers of course). After the week is up we will be allowed to openly talk about everything up to 1AD, including strategies going forward but everything after 1 AD must remain in spoilers. Anyways that's just a thought.
As for game time, we could do one every 2 weeks (as long as someone is willing to do the maps - thanks Rolo). Let's say a game gets posted every other weekend (or just before the weekend). Allow people to post game progress up to 1 AD the first week and then allow them to do their follow ups in the following week (in spoilers of course). After the week is up we will be allowed to openly talk about everything up to 1AD, including strategies going forward but everything after 1 AD must remain in spoilers. Anyways that's just a thought.
Well I love running a lightbulbling scientist SE it's my best play style so any philosophical leader will be great.
The more I look at fred the more I'm leaning towards him as our next leader, and like Katiekat says maybe its time we gave him some love. poor old freddie!
His traits, Philisophical has obvious benefits towards an SE and Organised allows expanding a little more than usual plus also has a good synergy with the UB(cheap factories) which are even cheaper with coal.
And the Panzers also suit the way I prefer to play with warring coming later rather than earlier.
Any leader Philo leader would be great tho.
If we play as Pericles I may have to go up a level, I find him almost overpowered when running a lightbulbing SE! (don't hold me to that!)
The more I look at fred the more I'm leaning towards him as our next leader, and like Katiekat says maybe its time we gave him some love.
poor old freddie!His traits, Philisophical has obvious benefits towards an SE and Organised allows expanding a little more than usual plus also has a good synergy with the UB(cheap factories) which are even cheaper with coal.
And the Panzers also suit the way I prefer to play with warring coming later rather than earlier.
Any leader Philo leader would be great tho.
If we play as Pericles I may have to go up a level, I find him almost overpowered when running a lightbulbing SE! (don't hold me to that!)
Bleys
Deity
Thats a good idea. It sort of combines the best features of both the LHC and the GOTM spoiler threads.
Every 2 weeks gives us 2.5 games a month, which is also a good compromise between 2 a month (the 1st and the 16th) and 3 a month (1st, 11th, 22nd). So if we start new games every other Friday, it gives folks the weekend to get started, then, combined with the post 1 AD rule, most players should be able to squeeze in that many turns and can finish as time allows, without worrying about reading the spoilers.
Regarding our next leader, it looks like a choice between Freddy and Gandhi. I am up for either, I have yet to play Freddy in BTS, and I have always been a big fan of India because that UU is so handy throughout the game. Lets take a semi-straw poll between those two:
I vote Freddy, and for letting rolo surprise us with the map.
littlej
Chieftain
After the 2 weeks are up as well I figure the game should be open discussion again, which will help us (or those that want to) wrap things up or talk openly about what worked and what didn't.
A week for the early game and a week for the wrap up should be plenty of time (as I noticed a lot of people just finished the game over the weekend anyways). It will help us slow down a bit as well (maybe not make as many mistakes or give us time for more questions).
A week for the early game and a week for the wrap up should be plenty of time (as I noticed a lot of people just finished the game over the weekend anyways). It will help us slow down a bit as well (maybe not make as many mistakes or give us time for more questions).
r_rolo1
King of myself
A suggestion:
I use the 2 weeks period in the LHC games because i want to give 2 weekends to let people to play and because there was no strong push to cut the times ( and because i sense that if i cutted the times , some good players that go there simply would not have time for playing them.... and LHC are good more because of the multilevel format ( that allows to compare dotmaps and strats between Noble and Immortal/Deity players ) than because of the isolation premisse )
But your case is somewhat diferent.... you are playing fast and the group is not so heterogeneous as the LHC in terms of skills. I would suggest a 3 sets/month in the 10th, 20th and in the end of the month...
I use the 2 weeks period in the LHC games because i want to give 2 weekends to let people to play and because there was no strong push to cut the times ( and because i sense that if i cutted the times , some good players that go there simply would not have time for playing them.... and LHC are good more because of the multilevel format ( that allows to compare dotmaps and strats between Noble and Immortal/Deity players ) than because of the isolation premisse )
But your case is somewhat diferent.... you are playing fast and the group is not so heterogeneous as the LHC in terms of skills. I would suggest a 3 sets/month in the 10th, 20th and in the end of the month...
