McArine
King
I wont be able to lead the preparations of packages until tomorrow evening, so if Pigswill wants to before then, just go ahead.
OB02 - Giving is Better than Receiving
- Thread starter Ozbenno
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pigswill
fly (one day)
Thanks for the invite but I've spent the morning on SGOTM and I'm working afternoon/evening so I'll wait my turn.
McArine
King
I got it and will play now.
McArine
King
Good news, we got our first chance to give a present, and of course I forgot to get a screenshot, but we gave our Indian friends a present with Open Borders, and they were happy.
We also met another of our opponents:
We also founded Stonehenge, discovered Iron Working, and got a Settler, Warrior and Worker ready to build our third city. Writing is one turn away.
I will suggest placing it at the Iron to the north.
The Save: http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=145084&stc=1&d=1167409680
Sorry about not getting the images properly, I'll work on it until next time I post.
We also met another of our opponents:
We also founded Stonehenge, discovered Iron Working, and got a Settler, Warrior and Worker ready to build our third city. Writing is one turn away.
I will suggest placing it at the Iron to the north.
The Save: http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=145084&stc=1&d=1167409680
Spoiler :
Sorry about not getting the images properly, I'll work on it until next time I post.
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The iron site with sugar up north (is it the north pole?) looks good for settler. We need Polytheism and Monotheism before we can pop Theology. Unless there are worker techs we need (maybe Agriculture) we should head down this path
Roster
Ozbenno
GreyFox
McArine - Gave away our first presents
pigswill - is UP ready to give away more
remconius - is ON DECK with wrapping paper
Immaculate
princecharles
Roster
Ozbenno
GreyFox
McArine - Gave away our first presents
pigswill - is UP ready to give away more
remconius - is ON DECK with wrapping paper
Immaculate
princecharles
pigswill
fly (one day)
Got it. Looked at it. Let's grab the iron site then build an army!!
Anyone who makes a demand of us is obviously naughty not nice so should be killed as soon as possible!
Anyone who makes a demand of us is obviously naughty not nice so should be killed as soon as possible!
pigswill
fly (one day)
Couldn't see how many turns I was meant to play so I played 24 up to 900bc.
Mao is naughty.
Alex is naughty.
Writing discovered. Start polytheism.
Monte is naughty.
Munich founded in jungle near iron.
Liz is naughty.
Discover polytheism. Start masonry (1000bc).
Masonry discovered. Start monotheism.
Very quiet set. No barbs.No fighting. Built couple of chariots, couple of barracks, starting on axes.
Save:http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/90414/Santa_Claus_BC-0900.Civ4SavedGame
Mao is naughty.
Alex is naughty.
Writing discovered. Start polytheism.
Monte is naughty.
Munich founded in jungle near iron.
Liz is naughty.
Discover polytheism. Start masonry (1000bc).
Masonry discovered. Start monotheism.
Very quiet set. No barbs.No fighting. Built couple of chariots, couple of barracks, starting on axes.
Save:http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/90414/Santa_Claus_BC-0900.Civ4SavedGame
Looks like Monotheism has already been discovered, which is good, there can only be one Xmas. We pop the GP in 5 turns which will give us our Christmas.
Monty is the grinch and has elephants, do we want to build a few swords and take him down.
Normally I'd suggest Alphabet as a research path but want to avoid this one as long as possible, maybe Agriculture/Pottery then Mathematics/Construction?
Roster
Ozbenno
GreyFox -
McArine - Gave away our first presents
pigswill - Didn't find anyone nice
remconius is UP for 15
Immaculate - is ON DECK with the elves
princecharles
Monty is the grinch and has elephants, do we want to build a few swords and take him down.
Normally I'd suggest Alphabet as a research path but want to avoid this one as long as possible, maybe Agriculture/Pottery then Mathematics/Construction?
Roster
Ozbenno
GreyFox -
McArine - Gave away our first presents
pigswill - Didn't find anyone nice
remconius is UP for 15
Immaculate - is ON DECK with the elves
princecharles
GreyFox
Make it so ...
Looks like two pretty good turnsets, McArnie and pigswill.
We are running out of sites to settle, seems like a clash of arms is inevitable (esp with monty, alex, onboard).
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We are running out of sites to settle, seems like a clash of arms is inevitable (esp with monty, alex, onboard).
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remconius
Deity
Got it, should be able to play tomorrow or monday.
remconius
Deity
Plan:
Avoid Alphabet.
Get a Priest to lightbulb Theology... (Need Meditation and maybe Priesthood)
Prolong the holidays and fill some stockings.
Build an army to acquire some gifts for ourselves.
825BC:
Berlin Axe > Sword
800BC:
Munich Barracks > Axe
775BC:
Got a Priest in Berlin, he'll lightbulb meditation (I'll store him for Christianity or a cathedral)
750BC:
Berlin Sword > Axe
725BC:
Monotheism > Meditation (hope we can Lightbulb Theology after)
700BC:
Whip Barracks in Hamburg
675BC:
Barracks in Hamburg > Chariot
We get Buddhism
650BC:
Berlin Sword > Settler (for Pigs/Rice Hill site)
Hamburg Chariot > Axe
Munich Axe > Sword
625BC:
Meditation > Fishing (for pottery)
Great Priest now lightbulbs Priesthood
We need pottery to plant them on FPs and up commerce.
550BC:
Fishing > Pottery
525BC:
SANTA TIME!!
Merry Christmas Lizzy!
Alex gets -1...
500BC:
Attack barbarian archer with Chariot (86% odds, but retreats) Second archer wins.
Situation at 500BC:
Notes:
-Units are built for army.
-Settler almost ready for pigs/rice/ hills site. Nice production of units possible there.
-We need to start building cottages for commerce
-After Pottery, Priesthood seems like a good option (might lightbulb cristianity)
-Or we spend 25 turns on Theology and use priest for Cathedral.
The save
View attachment Santa Claus BC-0500.Civ4SavedGame
Avoid Alphabet.
Get a Priest to lightbulb Theology... (Need Meditation and maybe Priesthood)
Prolong the holidays and fill some stockings.
Build an army to acquire some gifts for ourselves.
825BC:
Berlin Axe > Sword
800BC:
Munich Barracks > Axe
775BC:
Got a Priest in Berlin, he'll lightbulb meditation (I'll store him for Christianity or a cathedral)
750BC:
Berlin Sword > Axe
725BC:
Monotheism > Meditation (hope we can Lightbulb Theology after)
700BC:
Whip Barracks in Hamburg
675BC:
Barracks in Hamburg > Chariot
We get Buddhism
650BC:
Berlin Sword > Settler (for Pigs/Rice Hill site)
Hamburg Chariot > Axe
Munich Axe > Sword
625BC:
Meditation > Fishing (for pottery)
Great Priest now lightbulbs Priesthood
We need pottery to plant them on FPs and up commerce.550BC:
Fishing > Pottery
525BC:
SANTA TIME!!
Merry Christmas Lizzy!
Alex gets -1...
500BC:
Attack barbarian archer with Chariot (86% odds, but retreats) Second archer wins.
Situation at 500BC:
Notes:
-Units are built for army.
-Settler almost ready for pigs/rice/ hills site. Nice production of units possible there.
-We need to start building cottages for commerce
-After Pottery, Priesthood seems like a good option (might lightbulb cristianity)
-Or we spend 25 turns on Theology and use priest for Cathedral.
The save
View attachment Santa Claus BC-0500.Civ4SavedGame
pigswill
fly (one day)
Surely need priesthood next to lightbulb theology because Christianity is a significant element of the variant.
I'm also wondering why we're avoiding alphabet; one way not to give away techs is to trade them widely before anyone can ask.
I'm also wondering why we're avoiding alphabet; one way not to give away techs is to trade them widely before anyone can ask.
Nice work!
Priesthood is a cheap tech, so I'd research that and then lightbulb Theology. We're very likely to get a 2nd prophet for Church of Nativity.
Our first real gift had to be p*ssing of a nutcase
Roster
Ozbenno
GreyFox -
McArine - Gave away our first presents
pigswill - Didn't find anyone nice
remconius - More presents
Immaculate - is UP
princecharles - is ON DECK
Priesthood is a cheap tech, so I'd research that and then lightbulb Theology. We're very likely to get a 2nd prophet for Church of Nativity.
Our first real gift had to be p*ssing of a nutcase
Roster
Ozbenno
GreyFox -
McArine - Gave away our first presents
pigswill - Didn't find anyone nice
remconius - More presents
Immaculate - is UP
princecharles - is ON DECK
True but we'd have to make sure we trade all (including Alphabet) as for sure the doorbell would be ringing with much greater frequency after this.
Might still be a good idea after we get Priesthood.
Immaculate
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remconius
Deity
Pretty sure they can not demand techs if we dont have alphabet (unless they have it themselves)
pigswill
fly (one day)
Re Church of Nativity: if we use prophet to lightbulb theology and get Christianity then it might make sense to build a temple in Berlin and run a priest for 5gpp. It doesn't take much MM to pop another prophet while maybe running a couple of scientists elsewhere to pop a GS.
Remconius: fair point re alphabet. What about heading towards construction and building an army of theocratic catapults?
Remconius: fair point re alphabet. What about heading towards construction and building an army of theocratic catapults?
Immaculate
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500BC-200BC
Christmas:
On the 25th of December, a star shone on a manger and when the Sheppard boy visited it, he found a baby who was named Jesus.
Research:
We finished pottery and we started priesthood. Once priesthood was completed Moses visited a newborn babe who was birthed in a manger. The angels rejoiced and Christianity was founded. The three wise-men decided to learn how to farm (we need it for our hammer-rich cities). Once that was completed , they started work on the alphabet.
Production:
Christmas Colonies:
Cologne was built as can be seen in the following screenshot. I’ve also marked potential settling sites for the settler to be built next turn in Munich.
Naughty Boys and Girls:
Thoughts:
Here is the save.
Christmas:
On the 25th of December, a star shone on a manger and when the Sheppard boy visited it, he found a baby who was named Jesus.
Spoiler :
Research:
We finished pottery and we started priesthood. Once priesthood was completed Moses visited a newborn babe who was birthed in a manger. The angels rejoiced and Christianity was founded. The three wise-men decided to learn how to farm (we need it for our hammer-rich cities). Once that was completed , they started work on the alphabet.
Production:
- Hamburg completed its axeman and built a worker (whipped). It is currently building a spearman and maturing our empire’s first cottages.
- Berlin completed its settler and built a swordsman. It also started production of a granary prior to switching to a temple (while waiting for the missionary to arrive). It is currently building that Christian temple.
- Munich built two swordsmen and on the last turn whipped a settler. It will be done next turn. We should farm those sugar until we get calendar to make better use of this city (and whipping).
- Once Cologne was founded, I set it to build a library. We could run two farms (one would be rice) and two scientists if we want to farm some scientists (what I was thinking), or we could cottage up the site and get some commerce out of it.
Christmas Colonies:
Cologne was built as can be seen in the following screenshot. I’ve also marked potential settling sites for the settler to be built next turn in Munich.
- My favourite sites use our culture-producing creative trait to poach a couple gold tiles from Mansu. It also uses the pig tile for lots of food.
- The second city site includes lots of floodplains and could be used as a cottage-site. It also nets our empire a deer resource.
- The third city would make a great cottage spam site and is found to the north of Asoka.
- Lastly, we could poach silver from the Chinese.
Naughty Boys and Girls:
- The Greeks built the pyramids.
- The English develop Confucianism.
- The Indians built the Hindu shrine.
- No one made any demands.
Thoughts:
- Potentially we could build up to four more cities. We have a small army but our enemies have culture and i suspect we need catapults prior to facing them. I also think that we should build three cities in the meantime (all but the silver city near the Chinese).
- Our economy could use the gold to the north of our empire as well as cottages.
- We definately need more workers. I built one but we need much more then one (especially since we are only now getting pottery and farming).
- Do we want to adopt Christianity and an associated religious civic?
Here is the save.
Nice report Immac,
I like the gold site in the north, mainly as we may poach some elephants away from Monty, who we will be warring with at some stage.
I'd say we adopt Christianity, build up the army and wait for catapults.
Roster
Ozbenno - is ON DECK
GreyFox -
McArine - Gave away our first presents
pigswill - Didn't find anyone nice
remconius - More presents
Immaculate - Founded Christmas
princecharles - is UP
I like the gold site in the north, mainly as we may poach some elephants away from Monty, who we will be warring with at some stage.
I'd say we adopt Christianity, build up the army and wait for catapults.
Roster
Ozbenno - is ON DECK
GreyFox -
McArine - Gave away our first presents
pigswill - Didn't find anyone nice
remconius - More presents
Immaculate - Founded Christmas
princecharles - is UP
GreyFox
Make it so ...
Good job, Immac, but I wished you had scaled your pics down a bit 
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