Official names

I agree that it would be cool to be able to change the name of your civ, although I think that in addition to some of Lockesdonkey's suggestions it should be possible to make up you own names and terms...
 
ive always been of the opinion that the simple act of names really does enhance the game..i name my armies(7th calvarly) for example. i think a distinc country name would be somewhat of a cool feature...i think letting you pick your own as you change civics would be the best bet.
 
Berserk89 said:
I agree that it would be cool to be able to change the name of your civ, although I think that in addition to some of Lockesdonkey's suggestions it should be possible to make up you own names and terms...

That's part of it. As I said, you can be the Commissar and Grand High Pooh-Bah of the People's Democratic Socialist Debating Republic of Zululand, even if you are a Communistic Theocratic Slave Bureaucratic Heredetary Rule, and the civ you're playing as is China.

Trajan13 said:
@ Original Poster - I would really like to see some of this when it comes to government. It seems silly to be King X of the Empire of Y, when you just revolted into Democracy. It should be a simple system -

Despotism - Warlord/Cheif of the Tribe of X
Hereditary Rule - King/Emperor of the Kingdom of X/X-an Empire
Representation - Consul/First Citizen of the Republic of X/X-an Republic
Universal Sufferage - Prime Minister/President of the Republic of X/X-an Republic
Police State - General/Furheur/Leader of X

So if I'm Rome under Representation, it's Consul Caesar of the Roman Republic, but if I flip to Hereditary Rule, it's Emperor Caesar of the Roman Empire. It should also, ala Civ II, be alterable for your nation on start.

The point is that there is a list of possible names, which are all the possible combinations which could apply. But if you want to--and I stress, if you want to--you can be whatever you like even, well, just look above.

warpstorm said:
Just to point out that under the civics system there are (unless I screwed up my math) 3125 different "governmental" settings.

That doesn't matter. A list of names that are possible are associated with each setting, and then the list will be narrowed down depending on your choices. If there are no names left, then oh well, but the following will always be available (country name: Germany)

Germany (yep. Just that is your official name)
State of Germany
Independent State of Germany
German Union?

So if you get stuck, you always have a name
 
Sorry, I find it too confusing. And why do you call republics to all the democratic countries? There are democratic countries that they are not republics, but monarchies. e. g. England, Spain. (Canada?)..

Sorry, but I prefer the old system. But it would be nice if in Civ III you could change the addressing of the ruler depending on the government you choose. In CIv IV we have civics, rather than goverments, so Its more confusing and difficult to implement, as warpstorm said.
 
Urederra said:
Sorry, I find it too confusing. And why do you call republics to all the democratic countries? There are democratic countries that they are not republics, but monarchies. e. g. England, Spain. (Canada?)..

Well? There's no real way to represent Constitutional Monarchy in Civics, so they might as well all be republics.

I recognize your concerns, but I think I found a way to deal with it through name-list convergence (i.e. different allowed names with different settings, and the list of names you can pick determined by the ones that are common to the lists of your settings)
 
Well, it's been some time, and I like how it's been implemented with individual nations; at the moment, I'm the Malinese Free State (Representation/Free Speech/Emancipation/Free Market/Organized Religion). However, the use of "______ Empire" for EVERYTHING with the AI PISSES ME OFF!

But I have a way to handle it.

So, I will address this:

warpstorm said:
Just to point out that under the civics system there are (unless I screwed up my math) 3125 different "governmental" settings.

No matter. Legal and Labor Civics will have no effect on the name (isn't that sort of obvious?) and I'll use these stems for the system:

Names are assembled from basic parts.

Now, some nations should have "special" names which they ALWAYS adopt, given the right circumstances.

The Americans are ALWAYS the United States of America under Representation or Universal Suffrage. It just makes sense.

The Russians under Stalin are ALWAYS the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics when under State Property.

Other nations are more flexible.

First off, a nation's government civic determines its "root" name. I will use Egypt, Germany, Mali, and France as examples.


Despotisms: Hmm. Perhaps the "Egyptian State" or even just "Egypt". This will be changed depending on other modifiers.

Hereditary Rule: Duh. "Kingdom" or "Empire". Thus "Egyptian Kingdom", "Kingdom of Germany", "Malinese Empire", and "Empire of France."

Representation: Hmm. I'll say and Universal Suffrage take the same names. Thus under Representation/UnivSuff, the names would be "Egyptian Republic", "Republic of Germany", "Malinese Free State", and "Union of France."

Police State: Depending on what it's linked to, this varies. In most cases, it's "Republic", though it could be "State".

MODIFIERS:
State Property (of course): Anything but Hereditary Rule is generally "People's Republic", "Socialist Republic", "People's Democratic Republic", or "Soviet Republic." A Despotism has the option of being a "Socialist State" or "Worker's State". Hereditary Rules are "Social Kingdoms/Empires". Ask later for examples.

Religions: This is generally not indicated under Pacifism, Paganism, and is simply not applicable under Free Religion. I'm not sure about whether to include this feature for Organized Religion. However, Theocracy definately gets a modifier. A Theocratic Hereditary Rule is the "Holy Kingdom" or "Holy Empire", so a Theocratic Hereditary Rule Rome is the "Holy Roman Empire" (which, presumably would at least be Roman and an Empire). A theocratic Despotism would be a "(insert religion) State", so the "Buddhist State of Arabia." Otherwise, it is a "(insert religion) Republic", so the "Islamic Republic of Spain."

If this isn't clear, post.
 
I believe that the ability to modify your name and your title would make the game alot more interesting.
 
Nonono, you already can. (Go to Your Settings: Formal name and type whatever you damn well please). It's the AI that I'm worried about.
 
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