Old Swiss Confederacy (BtS 3.19; V1.0)

The Capo said:
On the LH: Either the feather is flipped around the wrong way (which doesn't look like the case) or it isn't attached to head bone. If both of those diagnoses are wrong post the file in Ekmek's tutorial thread and I, or someone else, will take a look at it.
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oh yes, the feathers were not attachached, thanks
still they are not perfect, maybe you can take a look or not, here is the provisional result
 

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Well, I don't really think I need to look at this at all really. Just make the feathers bigger and move them around. It is one of the easiest things to do, and honestly I think the feathers are the least of your worries.

The hat doesn't look right (it looks like it is sitting on the top of his head, rather than fitted properly), the pickaxe looks way out of place, the BG is a bad choice IMO because there should be visible movement however obviously there is none, and finally he looks too much like Brennus. Those would be my suggestions.
 
Hey, Capo... I see your GW quote, and raise you one...
It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible.
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For the record, I don't think your quote and mine are incompatible or contradictory...
Free from established religion is what he, and the other founding fathers, meant in yours. He also supported the free practice there of... which is the next clause of the famous amendment.
 
The Capo said:
Well, I don't really think I need to look at this at all really. Just make the feathers bigger and move them around. It is one of the easiest things to do, and honestly I think the feathers are the least of your worries.

The hat doesn't look right (it looks like it is sitting on the top of his head, rather than fitted properly), the pickaxe looks way out of place, the BG is a bad choice IMO because there should be visible movement however obviously there is none, and finally he looks too much like Brennus. Those would be my suggestions.
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:xmassign:ok, ok you are right, but it is the best i can do:sad:

but we know for sure you could do it better. you could make a really excellent Tell-LH.... So do it:D

the problem with the feathers is, somehow it is not possible to bring them in position:confused:
 
Well, this might be a good LH for you to learn a few tricks on. First, I think an entire swap of the body is in order, which would teach you how to remove and replace a torso. I also know why you don't fit the hat on better, it is probably because the hair pokes through when you try. This would be a good point to learn out to chop off a part (i.e. the top of his head). The feathers is a matter of learning how to use the features of Blender. There is no real way for me to tell you what to do about it, I can tell you how to do it, but the doing would be up to you. Basically you want to use "scale on axis" and "rotate" features for that one. Again, I can't literally tell you what to do here, but you'll get the hang of using them after a while. But don't forget you have to apply scale and rotation once you get it in the correct spot (I believe it is Ctrl+A). The background is a bit more difficult, and is one of the things I hate doing. Your choice is a very good one, I get it, but the thing is with a bg like that is that you have to be careful to think about what it would be like to actually approach a man in an apple orchard.

The trees would be moving around, or at least the leaves would be rustling. So what you can do about this is go for a wider shot and blur it so this isn't as apparent, not to mention that the clearly photographed BG you use contrasts with the cartoonish LH you created. The BG is part of the LH too, and in my opinion can make a decent LH great, or a great LH just decent.

@ Kochman; my quote wasn't mean to mean anything other than what it says, I make no secret of the fact that I am an atheist, but I am not an aggressive one. I respect peoples' rights to believe what they want, so long as they respect mine not to. I posted that quote because I hate hearing the "United States was founded as a Christian nation" nonsense. In fact, the very fact that George Washington said your quote (or more importantly believed in your quote) and also said mine only enhances the quote I used. Even a man that staunchly Christian readily admitted that the country he helped form wasn't based on Christianity.
 
True... just let it be known, he also thought that only those with religion in their lives could truly be just. He just didn't want to government to tell anyone what form of religion.
 
kochman said:
True... just let it be known, he also thought that only those with religion in their lives could truly be just. He just didn't want to government to tell anyone what form of religion.
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Nobody's perfect... neither is G-dub. ;)

EDIT: To clarify what you said, I think he probably thought only those of a Christian religion could be just (and even then I'm sure he didn't think Catholics could be). Regardless, he was a good man. Maybe not a great tactician, but certainly a great leader and as perfect a first President as there could have possibly been under the circumstances. I venerate the man, although I do realize his faults, otherwise I would never have quoted him. The only two other people I have ever quoted in my sig have been John Adams and Winston Churchill. Jefferson was my favorite founding father though.
 
Wow, J. Adams and Jefferson, pretty much opposite sides of the coin!
Did you see the HBO J. Adams miniseries?

Washington was awesome, and definitely as good a first president as we could have had.
 
@The Capo: Are you doing this with the feathers, please.

it will just take you 5 minutes, i am sure. i could do you some pedia stuff or other simple xml exchange for. before i learn blender civ5 is out. besides i like the composition of colors and the piece on his back as a crossbow - no pickaxe. It´s William Tell!
 
Take Christoph Blocher as Leader. He's a modern conservative politician and at least he wants switzerland to live like in the middle ages. He's something like our king (only politician with balls but i hate him). And the swiss way of saying Reisläufer would be something like Riisläufer or if you stick to the gewalthaufen it would be gwalthuffe or gwalthuffä depending on the dialect (just if you want it totally authentic) on the other hand german german is one of our official languages so you could keep the german german translation
 
Well... Blocher of course wouldn't fit, though I get your sarcasm.

What, in particular, has Blocher done that you don't appreciate? Doesn't he do pretty well in your elections?
 
I like gwalthuffe better than gewalthaufen

EDIT: of course only if you want the change the UU's name
 
the Hellebarde was THE weapon of the swiss confederacy, I think Hellebardier would be absolutely appropriate. it's not known if the swiss really developed it, but at least it's known that they were one of the first to using it, e.g. in the battle of Sempbach in 1386 - and also their Reisläufer used them, which was one the reason they were hired as mercenaries that often. sure there are experts who think that this weapon came up at the time also in germany and france but they already have their UU ;) since Reisläufer is not a swiss german term and Riislüüfer sounds a bit very strange, I would go with the French term Hellebardier since French is the second language in Switzerland anyway. Of course that's up to you. :) btw. I've never heard the word Gewalthaufen, even though I'm Swiss.
 
If Hellebardier is back again as an option for the UUs name, then I also vote for that...
 
Seconded, it will be the name of the UU in my modular civ at least. It's better than Swiss Pikeman, I hate when the name of the civ is part of the UU (or UB's) name.
 
OK, so that is 3, including a Swiss, so, I have changed it back.
Next time it is upload it (when the William Tell is complete), the change will be in then.
 
In case you can read German, French or Italian: Here's a link to the historical dictionary of Switzerland, where you should find all you want about Reisläufer, or Halbarte etc.
 
Sorry to jump into this discussion late I like Reisläufer for the Unique Unit and when my copy of BTS arrives I will load up this mod for some late Medieval carnage.

Reisläufer probably horribly translated from
Swiss/HighMiddleGerman->French->Modern English#1
as 'Men who March(walk)[to]War' is what England and her colonials would know them as.

"We fear the approach of your Swiss Reisläufer pikemen can we have peace" does not
sound too bad for Leader Head dialogue.

The German and even Swiss/German word/s are only known to History nuts.:) and also liberally applied to that imitation Swabian mercenary riffraff.

I always think first of the Reisläufer as Pike formations. from the canton men who fought the Hapsburg to the independent regiments who fought in Italy.

The Halberd association seem bound up in the Swiss papal guards who are very viable and recognizable after standing around the Vatican with pole axes for six centuries (perhaps the ceilings are too low for 17' Pikes)

#1 in middle english they were called swizers untill 1580 or so
 
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