Hello, Civ Fanatics.
This first post will be a mere introduction, skip to the TL;DR or straight to second post if you're not intrested. This will just be a long, boring bit of text describing how I ended up here.
The whole bit:
Three days ago I started to wonder how I could make some things happen in regards of modding. First, I wanted to make more mods cross-compatible with each other (mostly custom civs), and that sprung a whole new thing I found myself very excited about.
With gracious help from JFD and Chrisy15 (who were patient enough to assist me with my dumb questions when I literally didn't know a single thing about anything), I took it upon myself to learn to do some customizations.
The problem in the first place was that some custom civs were incompatible with some of other mods I liked to play with, and vice versa, so I needed to fix that. But in addition, I wanted to add to the immersion of each civ for my own enjoyment. I guess this could be called modding, but really, it's more like modmodding or modmodmodding. But you get the picture. I wanted to make some civs I enjoy, more enjoyable (for me) and also more compatible / up-to-date with all the new stuffs with e.g JFD's amazing gameplay mods.
So, I needed to start piecing things together, how the different things work around civ V modding and customization. Worth mentioning is I don't have any background in codings whatsoever (other than the current norm of things pretty much everyone knows, like HTML or CSS), so this really is a big thing for me to start learning.
Now I've always been a bad learner in the sense that I lack the patience needed to succesfully focus on reading longs bits of text. I'm literally stupid that way, with or without the negative connotation that comes with the term. So I needed to just start figuring things out while messing with things.
First thing was, I had to decide where to start. So I took the route of picking a civ I play the most as, and go from there. The pick was Hypereon's amazing Finland (Mannerheim) civ. This resulted in a seemingly infinite series of questions, with which I bugged a bunch of people out here in the forums (big thanks to everyone helping!). Eventually the questions started to arise more frequently than it was physically possible for me to keep asking around for, so I had to really start a long process of trial-and-error and extensive comparing with a big bunch of stuff that you guys have done that work and succesfully achieve what they're supposed to.
Well, out of that rose the mess of a modmod I made to "enhance" and "update" the mentioned civ from Hypereon. What it really does, is clumsily (succesfully, nevertheless) add in the features of current versions of JFD's gameplay mods, add a variety of unique stuff to it, including new sounds, a big array of unique Finnish names and lists and whatnot to accompany it all. The aim was to do this to a bunch of other civs, but I felt that I need to perfect this one first, and then apply the complete "package" to the civs I love.
I simply wanted to do more. I believe this is how most people end up with modding. I got the fever, I had to learn more and do more.
So, this is the what and why for this thread. I wanted to start updating my learning process and write up some random mumblings along the road, in case someone wants to pitch-in to help. Basically, it really started to mess with my head to be a constant pain in the ass for you guys who actually create amazing things. I didn't want to just be the guy who keeps bugging you.
I expect nothing from this, so if nobody pitches in, that's perfectly fine. This is a road I have to walk myself anyway, so it really isn't necessary. But I thought I'd give the opportunity just in case someone's a real naturally helpful soul. Also, it's a way to document my learning process, maybe it'll be a good laugh in time.
I will be posting my progress here. I'm not going to bore anyone with details or some kind of diary type of a post; I'm thinking I'll just write down the problems I have, and the thinkings I'm doing regarding to some things I need done.
Anyway, if you read all the way here, you're definitely not easily bored! You're really lucky in that sense, I truly wish you've embraced that.
TL;DR:
Three days ago suddenly wanted to do some customizations. Then realized how cool this whole idea of modding is. Wanted to learn how to mod. This thread is a monologue of mine where I think out loud of the things I'm working on / struggling to make work. Didn't want to bother anyone with my dumb questions anymore, hence the thread. Also, it's a way to document my learning process, maybe it'll be a good laugh in time. You guys can pitch in if you have any suggestions, help or pointers for me.
I'm a mess, this thread will most definitely be a mess, and everything I'm currently doing with the modmod thing is probably a huge mess on its own. Please, don't feel obligated to help just because everything's a mess here
If you have some time to spare and need something to do, feel free to help me here :^)
BY THE WAY
I recommend that you skip through to the newest post: The ones before it are probably outdated and already figured out/fixed/whatever.
This first post will be a mere introduction, skip to the TL;DR or straight to second post if you're not intrested. This will just be a long, boring bit of text describing how I ended up here.
The whole bit:
Spoiler :
Three days ago I started to wonder how I could make some things happen in regards of modding. First, I wanted to make more mods cross-compatible with each other (mostly custom civs), and that sprung a whole new thing I found myself very excited about.
With gracious help from JFD and Chrisy15 (who were patient enough to assist me with my dumb questions when I literally didn't know a single thing about anything), I took it upon myself to learn to do some customizations.
The problem in the first place was that some custom civs were incompatible with some of other mods I liked to play with, and vice versa, so I needed to fix that. But in addition, I wanted to add to the immersion of each civ for my own enjoyment. I guess this could be called modding, but really, it's more like modmodding or modmodmodding. But you get the picture. I wanted to make some civs I enjoy, more enjoyable (for me) and also more compatible / up-to-date with all the new stuffs with e.g JFD's amazing gameplay mods.
So, I needed to start piecing things together, how the different things work around civ V modding and customization. Worth mentioning is I don't have any background in codings whatsoever (other than the current norm of things pretty much everyone knows, like HTML or CSS), so this really is a big thing for me to start learning.
Now I've always been a bad learner in the sense that I lack the patience needed to succesfully focus on reading longs bits of text. I'm literally stupid that way, with or without the negative connotation that comes with the term. So I needed to just start figuring things out while messing with things.
First thing was, I had to decide where to start. So I took the route of picking a civ I play the most as, and go from there. The pick was Hypereon's amazing Finland (Mannerheim) civ. This resulted in a seemingly infinite series of questions, with which I bugged a bunch of people out here in the forums (big thanks to everyone helping!). Eventually the questions started to arise more frequently than it was physically possible for me to keep asking around for, so I had to really start a long process of trial-and-error and extensive comparing with a big bunch of stuff that you guys have done that work and succesfully achieve what they're supposed to.
Well, out of that rose the mess of a modmod I made to "enhance" and "update" the mentioned civ from Hypereon. What it really does, is clumsily (succesfully, nevertheless) add in the features of current versions of JFD's gameplay mods, add a variety of unique stuff to it, including new sounds, a big array of unique Finnish names and lists and whatnot to accompany it all. The aim was to do this to a bunch of other civs, but I felt that I need to perfect this one first, and then apply the complete "package" to the civs I love.
I simply wanted to do more. I believe this is how most people end up with modding. I got the fever, I had to learn more and do more.
So, this is the what and why for this thread. I wanted to start updating my learning process and write up some random mumblings along the road, in case someone wants to pitch-in to help. Basically, it really started to mess with my head to be a constant pain in the ass for you guys who actually create amazing things. I didn't want to just be the guy who keeps bugging you.
I expect nothing from this, so if nobody pitches in, that's perfectly fine. This is a road I have to walk myself anyway, so it really isn't necessary. But I thought I'd give the opportunity just in case someone's a real naturally helpful soul. Also, it's a way to document my learning process, maybe it'll be a good laugh in time.
I will be posting my progress here. I'm not going to bore anyone with details or some kind of diary type of a post; I'm thinking I'll just write down the problems I have, and the thinkings I'm doing regarding to some things I need done.
Anyway, if you read all the way here, you're definitely not easily bored! You're really lucky in that sense, I truly wish you've embraced that.
TL;DR:
Spoiler :
Three days ago suddenly wanted to do some customizations. Then realized how cool this whole idea of modding is. Wanted to learn how to mod. This thread is a monologue of mine where I think out loud of the things I'm working on / struggling to make work. Didn't want to bother anyone with my dumb questions anymore, hence the thread. Also, it's a way to document my learning process, maybe it'll be a good laugh in time. You guys can pitch in if you have any suggestions, help or pointers for me.
I'm a mess, this thread will most definitely be a mess, and everything I'm currently doing with the modmod thing is probably a huge mess on its own. Please, don't feel obligated to help just because everything's a mess here

If you have some time to spare and need something to do, feel free to help me here :^)
BY THE WAY
I recommend that you skip through to the newest post: The ones before it are probably outdated and already figured out/fixed/whatever.
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