Palin Speech: I smell fear.

[mrt144]

Why wasn't Palin the presidential nomination for Republicans? Republicans seem to like her a lot more. People in general do!

 

[JollyRoger]

What I didn't smell was moosburgers. Why was that woman yammerin' instead of cookin'.

 

[Cutlass]

What I didn't smell was moosburgers. Why was that woman yammerin' instead of cookin'.

what makes you think she can?

 

[JollyRoger]

what makes you think she can?

Because she bragged about throwing the Governor Mansion's chef out into the cold.

 

[Miles Teg]

Because she bragged about throwing the Governor Mansion's chef out into the cold.

She had no choice. The redecorator's salary had to come from somewhere.

 

[Archbob]

Yes but was Aragorn - Son Of Arathorn, the true descendant of Isildur?

If you've read the genealogies, yes. Aragorn is the direct descent of Isildur and Elendil and so the direct descendant of Elros(although 39 generations down). He is a direct descendant of Barahir and the chiefstans of the first age. Unless somehow you can prove that Obama is the direct descendant of Jesus(which is possible since the real Jesus wasn't white and was probably middle-eastern in appearance), I don't see a connection.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

What I didn't smell was moosburgers. Why was that woman yammerin' instead of cookin'.

Don't be silly. She has to go kill one, first.

(Moose meat is actually rather tasty. )

 

[MagisterCultuum]

which is possible since the real Jesus wasn't white and was probably middle-eastern in appearance

How does that make it any more possible? Obama is not of middle eastern descent, while he is half white. If anything, it makes it less likely.

Plus, of course (unless you buy the Da Vinci Code nonsense) Jesus had no children.

 

[MobBoss]

How does that make it any more possible? Obama is not of middle eastern descent, while he is half white. If anything, it makes it less likely.

Plus, of course (unless you buy the Da Vinci Code nonsense) Jesus had no children.

Ah, but he did have a half-brother. Perhaps Obama is part of that line...

 

[MobBoss]

Update: Palin viewer numbers revised. Now her audience was bigger than Obamas. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080904/D93079DG4.html

NEW YORK (AP) - Barack Obama apparently isn't the only "rock star" in presidential politics this year.

After days of intense media coverage about Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin's qualifications, more than 40 million Americans tuned in Wednesday to see for themselves what they thought of her.

The huge audience for Palin's acceptance speech rivaled that for Obama's address at the Democratic National Convention six days earlier, and set a tough standard for the top of her own ticket. John McCain was to accept the GOP presidential nomination on Thursday.

The first two days of the GOP convention essentially served as a build-up for Palin. The Alaska governor hadn't spoken publicly since McCain selected her for the ticket last Friday, as a series of stories circulated questioning whether McCain had properly vetted her.

Her poised speech, primarily going after Obama and touting McCain's case for the presidency, was gushed over by many analysts.

An audience of 37.2 million people watched Palin on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox News Channel and MSNBC, Nielsen Media Research said Thursday. PBS estimated its audience at 3.9 million, based on a less reliable sample of several big cities. Nielsen does not count the audience for C-SPAN, which also showed the speech.

Last week, Nielsen said 38.4 million people watched Obama speak at a Denver stadium on the six commercial networks, along with BET, TV One, Univision and Telemundo - four networks that didn't cover Palin's speech. PBS added an estimated 4 million to that total.

Nearly 2 million more women were watching Palin than men, Nielsen said.

Viewers were far more interested in Palin than Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden. Biden's speech to Democrats last week was seen by an estimated 24 million people.

The audiences for the Obama and Palin speeches were bigger than the ones this year for the Academy Awards, the finale of "American Idol" or the Olympics opening ceremony in Beijing.

Nearly 120 million Americans voted in the 2004 presidential election and numbers could be higher this year because of young and minority voters attracted to Obama, and renewed enthusiasm among Republicans for their ticket.

Fox News Channel led the way Wednesday, with 9.2 million people watching Palin's speech on the cable channel. It was the third-largest audience in its history, behind only President Bush's speech on Iraq in March 2003 and a Bush-Kerry presidential debate in 2004.

For each night of the GOP convention so far, Fox's audience has been bigger than any of the other cable or broadcast networks. That duplicates a feat accomplished at the 2004 Republican convention for Fox, the first time a cable network had outdrawn broadcasters for a major news event.

NBC had 7.7 million viewers for Palin's speech, followed in order by CNN, ABC, CBS and MSNBC, Nielsen said.

Whoever said it was a mistake to make her his nominee apparently didnt see this coming. Ouch.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

Ah, but he did have a half-brother. Perhaps Obama is part of that line...

Four Half brothers (James, Joses, Simon, and Judas, in the usual english translation), and multiple half sisters (although the word used for sister could also refer to sisters-in-law instead of biological sisters.)


And of course, the Catholic and Orthodox churches claim that the "brothers" were actually just cousins, since they like to think Mary remained a virgin forever (which I don't buy).

 

[Miles Teg]

Whoever said it was a mistake to make her his nominee apparently didnt see this coming. Ouch.

McCain releasing the id of the Republican Party, and delivering a speech that was all 'red meat' and no beef? I would encourage every moderate to view it, just to get a glimpse of the real Republican Party. A party without any practical reasons to be elected turns to negative attacks and biography puffery, and avoids any mention of the issues. Contrast to Obama's speech, which went light on the attacks, heavy on the issues, and focused on those Americans who weren't running for president.

 

[RulerOfDaPeople]

McCain releasing the id of the Republican Party, and delivering a speech that was all 'red meat' and no beef? I would encourage every moderate to view it, just to get a glimpse of the real Republican Party. A party without any practical reasons to be elected turns to negative attacks and biography puffery, and avoids any mention of the issues. Contrast to Obama's speech, which went light on the attacks, heavy on the issues, and focused on those Americans who weren't running for president.

What speeches were you watching?

Time to come back down to earth. Both conventions were heavy on the "red meat" attack. Heck, James Carville was upset after the first night of the DNC because he said there wasnt enough "red meat", but he was ecstatic for the rest of the DNC because there was alot of it. To say other wise (that 1 campaign layed off the attacks) is proving yourself to be another one of those dellusional partisans.

As far as attacks go, I saw no more in McCain's than was in Obama's and vice versa. I also didn't see very many specifics in Obama's speech other than "I will do this and that" type of generalized stuff. He never said an ounce of how he'd do it. And I'm not even going to get into McCain's speech because an entire hour's worth of stuff to talk about is just too long to break down.

 

[Miles Teg]

Time to come back down to earth. Both conventions were heavy on the "red meat" attack.

I'm waiting for you to point out a democratic speech that was mostly attacks. I can point out Giuliani's, Romney's, Palin's and McCain's on your side.

I also didn't see very many specifics in Obama's speech other than "I will do this and that" type of generalized stuff. He never said an ounce of how he'd do it. And I'm not even going to get into McCain's speech because an entire hour's worth of stuff to talk about is just too long to break down.

You don't address the hows in a convention speech. You list what you're going to do. Obama did that. McCain didn't it. Simple as that.

 

[bigfatron]

As has been explained though, drilling isn't proposed to "fix" the problem at hand. It is only important to secure domestic sources in the long period of transformation to alternative energy. It makes sense to vigorously research and development non-petroleum based energy, but in the meantime it also makes sense to gain access to our own.

~Chris

Except the amount of energy available as a proportion of US consumption is pathetically small - a far more effective measure to reduce US dependence on overseas supplies would be to keep gas prices at current levels through taxation...
BFR

 

[Miles Teg]

Except the amount of energy available as a proportion of US consumption is pathetically smallBFR

It get's worse. Oil is sold on a world market. The price is determined by global supply and demand. The amount of oil America can produce barely registers on that scale.

 

[Murky]

If you've read the genealogies, yes. Aragorn is the direct descent of Isildur and Elendil and so the direct descendant of Elros(although 39 generations down). He is a direct descendant of Barahir and the chiefstans of the first age. Unless somehow you can prove that Obama is the direct descendant of Jesus(which is possible since the real Jesus wasn't white and was probably middle-eastern in appearance), I don't see a connection.

The Lord of the Rings is a fantasy. I'll let you figure out the connection on your own.

 

[BasketCase]

Why wasn't Palin the presidential nomination for Republicans?

Same reason Condi Rice wasn't: she chose not to run.

As much as I would have loved to see the Republicans be the first to put a black woman on the ticket and set political correctness back fifty years, she didn't want to run, and in this country nobody can force her.

But then, maybe she knows the Presidency isn't where the real power is.

 

[Patroklos]

It get's worse. Oil is sold on a world market. The price is determined by global supply and demand. The amount of oil America can produce barely registers on that scale.

That will get you votes

So how does that jive with the Obama/Biden description of of the current great depression? "Your lives suck (we don't care what you think, we are TELLING you your life sucks), but we are going to tax you anyway."

 

[MobBoss]

It get's worse. Oil is sold on a world market. The price is determined by global supply and demand. The amount of oil America can produce barely registers on that scale.

Oh really? http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0922041.html

1. Saudi Arabia 10.72 million barrels a day.
2. Russia 9.67
3. United States 8.37

Yup, that barely registers.