I couldn't get it running very well in XP :/ Lots of missing graphics and such.
Panzer General
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I couldn't get it running very well in XP :/ Lots of missing graphics and such.
Thorn
King
Schlomoe99
Trench Raider
Wow, this thread has really brought me back!
Panzer General is the whole reason I became so interested in the PC platform in the first place. I was 12 when it came out, and at the time Mac was all I had used for computer games. I hadn't seen a good replacement for tabletop wargames yet, though. Then one day my uncle showed me PG running on his brand new 486DX2 and I was blown away! Simple rules - and VERY simple supply calculations - made it easy for me to pick up quickly, and it was so easy to point and click. No pieces to lose!
Naturally, when we got our family PC in 1996, I HAD to install the game. But for various reasons (let's start with EZ-BIOS and end it there, shall we?) it wouldn't work! I poured-over every 'For Dummies' book on PCs, DOS, you name it, trying to figure out what an autoexec.bat file was, and how I could get more extended memory with memmaker.
I eventually figured it out, and the lead-up to that personal moment of triumph was the catalyst for my love of computing ever since. With CivII out soon after, it was a wonder I got any studying done in high school!
The game itself is superb. What mattered was not only where you attacked, but with what types of units and in which order. I eventually wrote a TI-82 program - now sadly lost - that let me calculate who would shoot first in a given PG battle, but first I had to learn BASIC! Those happy days blitzing London, parachuting into Moscow and slogging through Washington DC will always be with me, and I owe so much to that great game for inspiring me to become better at working with PCs.
Naturally when I learned that the team leader for Civ5 was a Panzer General fan I flipped, and I think the hex maps and ranged attacks are long overdue! I still play PG from time to time, and at the moment it and another SSI game (Silent Hunter) are the only reason I keep dosbox installed on each of my PCs.
Looking forward to good things in Civ5!
Panzer General is the whole reason I became so interested in the PC platform in the first place. I was 12 when it came out, and at the time Mac was all I had used for computer games. I hadn't seen a good replacement for tabletop wargames yet, though. Then one day my uncle showed me PG running on his brand new 486DX2 and I was blown away! Simple rules - and VERY simple supply calculations - made it easy for me to pick up quickly, and it was so easy to point and click. No pieces to lose!
Naturally, when we got our family PC in 1996, I HAD to install the game. But for various reasons (let's start with EZ-BIOS and end it there, shall we?) it wouldn't work! I poured-over every 'For Dummies' book on PCs, DOS, you name it, trying to figure out what an autoexec.bat file was, and how I could get more extended memory with memmaker.
I eventually figured it out, and the lead-up to that personal moment of triumph was the catalyst for my love of computing ever since. With CivII out soon after, it was a wonder I got any studying done in high school!
The game itself is superb. What mattered was not only where you attacked, but with what types of units and in which order. I eventually wrote a TI-82 program - now sadly lost - that let me calculate who would shoot first in a given PG battle, but first I had to learn BASIC! Those happy days blitzing London, parachuting into Moscow and slogging through Washington DC will always be with me, and I owe so much to that great game for inspiring me to become better at working with PCs.
Naturally when I learned that the team leader for Civ5 was a Panzer General fan I flipped, and I think the hex maps and ranged attacks are long overdue! I still play PG from time to time, and at the moment it and another SSI game (Silent Hunter) are the only reason I keep dosbox installed on each of my PCs.
Looking forward to good things in Civ5!
frekk
Scourge of St. Lawrence
I can. Panzer General is pretty basic compared with something like SPWAW, but it has much better graphics.
Shurdus
Am I Napoleon?
Had a copy of Panzer General II at home. I remember going to the store when my parents finally bought a PC so I went to buy a few 2 bucks videogames... I remebered reading good things about PG2 so when I saw it lying there I bought that one instead of the bargain games.
When I came home I showed it to my dad. He asked me how much it was and because of his response I can to this day remember how much it was. It was 75 guilders I said... My dad pretty much exploded in anger.
Aaaah... The good old times. Memories...
I remember the game as being very good too. It may have been a bit much for my 14 year old barely english speaking self. It had many many options and I barely understood them all, but the game itself was amazing and the battles truly epic. Like may I share in the frowning of using that combat system in Civ, but if done properly I am sure the game will be more brilliant than it ever was.
When I came home I showed it to my dad. He asked me how much it was and because of his response I can to this day remember how much it was. It was 75 guilders I said... My dad pretty much exploded in anger.
Aaaah... The good old times. Memories...
I remember the game as being very good too. It may have been a bit much for my 14 year old barely english speaking self. It had many many options and I barely understood them all, but the game itself was amazing and the battles truly epic. Like may I share in the frowning of using that combat system in Civ, but if done properly I am sure the game will be more brilliant than it ever was.Gliese 581
Your average civ junkie
Panzer General is a very very good game. It's not perfectly balanced, for example initiative and experience kind of breaks down with air units where casualty rates are extremely high, if you supersize your air units they can become unstoppable in air to air combat as they have numerical superiority and shoot first every time.
It can be quite a task to plan out the initial setup and the first turn since it kinda works like a puzzle where you have to put each part together in the right order. Maybe I should liken it to finding the right cipher for a code. It's very satisfying once you get it going and everything falls into place.
It can be quite a task to plan out the initial setup and the first turn since it kinda works like a puzzle where you have to put each part together in the right order. Maybe I should liken it to finding the right cipher for a code. It's very satisfying once you get it going and everything falls into place.
Schlomoe99
Trench Raider
Steel Panthers will always be a classic. As for other modern hex games, I think my most recent nod on PC goes to Korsun Pocket, by Strategic Studies Group and Matrix Games. The rules are much more complicated than PG or any of it's other incarnations, and there is no campaign, but the gameplay is superb.
From http://www.strategypage.com/strategypagegamestore/korsun_pocket.asp
Runs fine under XP on my machine. It's PG2 not Panzer general. The original game was a dos game and wont run under windows. Panzer general Forever will though. Not sure of the copyright validity. PGF is marked as Freeware.
Gliese 581
Your average civ junkie
I can run PG in win xp with win95 compatibility enabled.
I'd second that recommendation.
It's not as close to WhateverGeneral as some other examples you might find, but it's a great example of free, retro turn-based hex gaming. Simple rules. Very deep strategy.
Loved the PG series. There were several games:
Panzer General - The original was great. 5/5
Fantasy General - same mechanics, with fantasy units 4.5/5
Allied General - ok, it didn't seem as fun playing the allies though 3.5/5
Pacific General - emphasis on sea battles/air battles, introduced carriers, overall the weakest of the series
Panzer General 2 - my favorite, it was top notch 5/5
People General - my second favorite, set in the near future where China invades South Korea, just the fact that you had a Gurka unit available made it awesome 5/5
Panzer General 3: Scorched Earth and Panzer General 3D Assault - they rework the mechanics a bit of these two games. 3D graphics engine. More emphasis on leaders. Unit could attack multiple time, which with bombers seemed to unbalance the same somewhat. 4/5
Panzer General - The original was great. 5/5
Fantasy General - same mechanics, with fantasy units 4.5/5
Allied General - ok, it didn't seem as fun playing the allies though 3.5/5
Pacific General - emphasis on sea battles/air battles, introduced carriers, overall the weakest of the series
Panzer General 2 - my favorite, it was top notch 5/5
People General - my second favorite, set in the near future where China invades South Korea, just the fact that you had a Gurka unit available made it awesome 5/5
Panzer General 3: Scorched Earth and Panzer General 3D Assault - they rework the mechanics a bit of these two games. 3D graphics engine. More emphasis on leaders. Unit could attack multiple time, which with bombers seemed to unbalance the same somewhat. 4/5
Rusty Edge
Deity
I tried it and got it downloaded and running in two attempts.
I didn't see any instructions, so gameplay was trial and error, ( wish I new I could buy a fighter or AA unit before I got bombed into ineffectiveness) but it reminded me a lot of the old Avalon Hill board games as far as the map and gameplay.
Thanks. Looking forward to Civ Hex.
migkillertwo
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If CiV has at half the tactical depth I'll just have to drop out of college.
Ok. I didn't know this, thanks. It may also work with Dosbox. The old Elite games do.
Zhahz
PC Gamer
Never played panzer general.
I have played (and like a great deal) a game called Battle For Wesnoth, which many say has combat that's similar to PG. It's a free fantasy themed, hex-based, turn-based game with simple resource management, campaigns, and troops that persist (and level up) thru maps/battles. Fun little game. The combat and AI are very wel done. I think it shows the power of hex-based pretty well.
I'd be pretty happy if Civ5's new combat model was done similarly.
I have played (and like a great deal) a game called Battle For Wesnoth, which many say has combat that's similar to PG. It's a free fantasy themed, hex-based, turn-based game with simple resource management, campaigns, and troops that persist (and level up) thru maps/battles. Fun little game. The combat and AI are very wel done. I think it shows the power of hex-based pretty well.
I'd be pretty happy if Civ5's new combat model was done similarly.
Ahriman
Tyrant
I played Battle for Wesnoth a bit, and I have to say: very elegant design.
I thought the decision to get rid of any kind of "attack strength" value and just have damage values and the probability of a strike succeeding being the terrain value of the defender was just brilliant. It encourages flanking and envelopment without neednig any specific mechanics to do so, and the night/day cycle gives the game a great temporal flow.
I thought the decision to get rid of any kind of "attack strength" value and just have damage values and the probability of a strike succeeding being the terrain value of the defender was just brilliant. It encourages flanking and envelopment without neednig any specific mechanics to do so, and the night/day cycle gives the game a great temporal flow.
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