PBEM - "Kamikaze soul"

[soul_warrior]

roster is full
to start the game monday Sept, 3rd.

senguko scenario based game.
level of game - monarch?

ideally - 4 human, 4 AI.

level of players - all welcome, but probably a good idea if you know which way the spear points

basic rule - HUMANS ARE AT ALWAYS WAR.

Always War (AW): When you meet an opponent (as soon as they appear on the F2/F4/Shift-D diplomacy screen, you’ve met them), you must declare war on them – THAT turn. You can make initial deals for hard goods only (no gpt deals, no alliances, no resource/luxury trades). Opening the diplomacy window to spy techs, cities, resources, etc. is allowed. Signing peace for even a single turn is prohibited.
Arathorn’s comments: Adds about 1.5-2 difficulty levels. Games usually take significantly longer. Once you’re past the “Can I hold my front?” stage and making progress forward, it’s usually won. Approximately doubles the time required to play.

current roster:__clans prefered:
soul_warrior____----none----
blaze injun_____Miyoshi or Uesugo
knutis_________SW island clan, please :kiss:
salte_(temp)___random clan


clan choices:
not discussed yet.
id like to have human-AI-H-AI-H-AI-H-AI spacing.
this seems to best fit the land (long and narrow)

open for other ideas, so lets discuss this a bit....

edit 1 -
rules are those of AW.
you can trade on the FIRST TURN you meet a new civ. at the end of that turn WAR IS DECLARED!

i would also add a NO TRADING EVER between HUMANS.
but id like votes on that.

 

[sercer88]

ah...maybe I can play...but if there aren't enough biters in the near future...or if the roster isn't full by that monday I guess I can jump in.

 

[Blaze Injun]

looking for players.
to start the game monday Sept, 3rd.

senguko scenario based game.
level of game - monarch?

Sounds good. I can't wait. I been wanting to play this.

Aways War!!!

clan choices:
not discussed yet.
id like to have human-AI-H-AI-H-AI-H-AI spacing.
this seems to best fit the land (long and narrow)

open for other ideas, so lets discuss this a bit....

Seems like the right Idea.
I'd like the clan Miyoshi or Uesugo.
Hell! Just stick me in there somewhere.

Let the Razing begin. I say Razing should be allowed.
We can build settlers.
The death of a Clan Leader will raze all cities.
So can we.


Blaze Injun

 

[soul_warrior]

indeed blaze,
this is WAR.

raze to your hearts content.

i think we can say that the only "major" rule should be, report truthfully and fully.

since we dont have a reputation to keep, and are NOT allowed to trade, and MUST self research everything....
i would not hurry to raze.
that added science and coin, goes a long way.

updated first post for your clans of preference blaze

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Not a sign up, I screwed up my scenarios when installing mods one time and promised myself I'd never try screwing around with my C3C again

Sounds like a fun game though

3 comments:
1. A couple of good units in Sengoku are hidden nationality. What rules will you set about reporting HN attacks?
2. if this is AW without trades, I'd extend that to AI's as well. Anyone finding a stray AI for big time trades late in the game would unbalance the power equilibrium.
3. Any restrictions on units? Yambushi's come to mind ... but if everyone reads their tech tree it shouldn't pose a problem as it is known by all. AI's can't efficiently cope with them though IIRC.

 

[Blaze Injun]

indeed blaze,
this is WAR.

raze to your hearts content.

i think we can say that the only "major" rule should be, report truthfully and fully.

Preach On! Preach On!

since we dont have a reputation to keep, and are NOT allowed to trade, and MUST self research everything....
i would not hurry to raze.
that added science and coin, goes a long way.

edit 1 -
rules are those of AW.
you can trade on the FIRST TURN you meet a new civ. at the end of that turn WAR IS DECLARED!

Conflicting.

i would also add a NO TRADING EVER between HUMANS.
but id like votes on that.

Agree no trading ever between Humans.

current roster:__clans prefered:
soul_warrior____----none----
blaze injun_____Miyoshi or Uesugo
**open
**open

updated first post for your clans of preference blaze

Thank ya. Thank ya.

Blaze Injun

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Conflicting.

Often, in AI AW games, there is an initial "snap shot" trade round for the first turn but you must declare before hitting enter. This is impossible with humans though.

 

[soul_warrior]

3 comments:
1. A couple of good units in Sengoku are hidden nationality. What rules will you set about reporting HN attacks?
2. if this is AW without trades, I'd extend that to AI's as well. Anyone finding a stray AI for big time trades late in the game would unbalance the power equilibrium.
3. Any restrictions on units? Yambushi's come to mind ... but if everyone reads their tech tree it shouldn't pose a problem as it is known by all. AI's can't efficiently cope with them though IIRC.

hidden nationality.
good point.
id go with reports such as "unknown bandits have attacked, suspected Miyoshi Ronin!"....

trades. - NO TRADES. EVER. WITH ANYONE.

units- if you can makes, smoke 'em!

blaze - trade options. see above

 

[Blaze Injun]

3 comments:
1. A couple of good units in Sengoku are hidden nationality. What rules will you set about reporting HN attacks?

Hidden Nationality should be report like a normal attack.
Uesuga ninjas attacks a date samurai spearman. Or the Ronin
in the employ of Lord Oda has razed Kyoto.
Things like that.

2. if this is AW without trades, I'd extend that to AI's as well. Anyone finding a stray AI for big time trades late in the game would unbalance the power equilibrium.

I could go with no trade with AIs.
But I would also allow the demand for a tech on the first turn.
Then declaring war on the second.

3. Any restrictions on units? Yambushi's come to mind ...

I hate this defensive unit. It has long range unrestricted movement & can pillage.
Lets restrict this unit to none. That is if all players want to.

Please Beorn-eL Feared gives us some more thoughts. I'd like to hear more about the Yambushi idea.


Blaze Injun

 

[soul_warrior]

blaze,

to avoid any conflicts, id rather we sign this off as "no trades at all"

yamabuchi - dont recall the unit.
if it is that strong id say - give the AI a chance.
let the AI build it, while it is BANNED BY BUSHIDO CODE for humans to build.
we can deal with the AI having those, cant we?

 

[Blaze Injun]

blaze,

to avoid any conflicts, id rather we sign this off as "no trades at all"

Got Yea!!

yamabuchi - dont recall the unit.
if it is that strong id say - give the AI a chance.
let the AI build it, while it is BANNED BY BUSHIDO CODE for humans to build.
we can deal with the AI having those, cant we?

Excellent Idea!! I like the way you think.
But it can see invisiable units. Maybe 1 Yamabushi per city.
Say it can't be moved from the city.
That way the countryside is dangerous. Ninja infested.


Blaze Injun

 

[Redman]

Wow, just the game I was waiting for! But, but, I have so much RL stuff that I can't join!
I'll be lurking around. Maybe in the future I will start a new game just like this.
Good hunting all!

Redman

 

[soul_warrior]

Excellent Idea!! I like the way you think.
But it can see invisiable units. Maybe 1 Yamabushi per city.
Say it can't be moved from the city.
That way the countryside is dangerous. Ninja infested.


Blaze Injun

id have to disagree there...

cities are also infested.

if youre arrogant enough to leave your cities ungarrisoned, you dont deserve to keep them.

also lets remember this is AW.
you only hold on to what you guard. heavily.

those invisible ninjas will make this very fun.
and early warning systems?

its another small edge the AI will have.

maybe we will all lose

 

[soul_warrior]

sorry to hear that redman.
been secretly hoping to play with you one day

keep lurking.
we are renowned (even if it is only within our small circle) for our fun filled reports.

 

[Blaze Injun]

id have to disagree there...

cities are also infested.

if youre arrogant enough to leave your cities ungarrisoned, you dont deserve to keep them.

also lets remember this is AW.
you only hold on to what you guard. heavily.

those invisible ninjas will make this very fun.
and early warning systems?

its another small edge the AI will have.

maybe we will all lose

To the BUSHIDO CODE .
No Yamabushi!!

Blaze Injun

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Please Beorn-eL Feared gives us some more thoughts. I'd like to hear more about the Yambushi idea.

Easiest way is none: no trades, no HN, no invis, no yambushis. The invis units are kind of a trademark of the scenario though, and they have a nationality IIRC, so they're 'allowable' in practice. I'd advise for none of the 3 others although allowing yamabushis as static (never moved) defenders could make it useful enough to be stared at while useless enough to make you think twice about it. Definitely interesting but you could go both ways.

Then, it's AW, so there is little more to comment. AW at Monarch on this map will not be too much of a hassle for players since AI's can't dogpile you to hell, they have other humans to deal with. Power should escalate fast enough so this should be a very intense kingmaker game.

Have fun!

 

[Knutis]

I would like to try this out if the open spaces are still open
I like the rules no trades, no HN, no invis, no yambushis and racing allowed - rules.
Any clan will do for me as long as I'm not put on the little island in the SW

 

[Salte]

Are there still any openings for this game? If so, I'd like to join!

Edit:
Regarding rules I'd prefer no trades ever to reduce luck factor.
I'd take a random clan.

 

[soul_warrior]

knutis, slots open for you wherever you go.
i see you dont like SW.
that is me.
small island in the south you wanted.... you got it

Slate - ill put you in as temp for now. we will know in 2 days, but i can always add another human player.

updated post number 1--------

 

[Blaze Injun]

Any clan will do for me as long as I'm not put on the little island in the SW

Have no fear SW won't put you there. He can't because
there is no there. Dang it!


8 players only in PBEM = No island I believe.