Peloponnesian War Scenario Development Thread

[Amenhotep7]

Hmmm....We need to look into icons now as we await Xen's territory, Kryten's units, and Ekmek's gfx...But before that we need to map out techs! I'll consult our thoughts on techs awhile ago and post a VERY rough draft later 2day.

 

[Xen]

I have found a GREAT map of the main game area

http://www.slitherine.co.uk/spartan/images/GCMap.jpg

 

[The Last Conformist]

That's one great map, Xen! Added to my personal collection!

 

[Amenhotep7]

Umm....Well, I think this'll definately help cartographically...How goes the map, speaking of cartography?

 

[Xen]

now that I have the map I need, I can reall start adding cities, if somone could do an accurate plitcal overlay (colour in the territoies according to what side they were on, but leaving in the cities) it would be very helpful

the map is the campaign map from a game called "Spartan"

 

[The Last Conformist]

Unfortunately, all my historical atlases are back home in Sweden. But I guess there ought to be an online map to be found ...

 

[The Last Conformist]

Here's rough one; could perhaps do as a start:

 

[Xen]

well, by sides, I mean more along the lines of what region belonged to who- indipendents included, all organisze along the major powers...

like this, these are the territoires i need-

Athans and Sparta are easy...

Thebes
Macedon
Thessally
Thrace (perhaps, now that we have a map that shows Thracian cities, should included them...)
and various indiependent powers...

 

[The Last Conformist]

OK. I'm afraid I can't help you out much there, ATM at least.

But your map's a decent guide in this case; Thebes territory is simply the piece called "Boiotia" on it. (Indeed, it would actually be more accurate to call the civ Boeotia; Thebes was only the leading city of the Boeotian confederation.) In southern and central Greece, the territories largely correspond to actual ancient poleis and ethnes (or whatever the correct pl of "ethne" is!).

 

[The Last Conformist]

Thrace, of course, was a somewhat poorly delimited region. I guess they'll get everything in the north that's not belonging to anyone else, and better some hefty penalties so they don't become a major power.

 

[Xen]

I would like both, as for thebes and friends, I would expect they weilded soem major influence of ther area directlly surrounding Boetia...

 

[Amenhotep7]

Sounds like there's been at least verbal progress... Which is ver good! I agree, add Thrace, but make them a minority, with hardly any game influence...If possible...It was a very big region... As for calling it Boetia, it doesn't matter. I'm glad to hear real progress can begin, problem is, it doesn't show Cyprus nor all of Persia we need...Ah, well..I think we have all appropriate resources now...Any new territory fleshed out, Xen? That's what I meant by my first question.

 

[The Last Conformist]

As far as I understand it, Thebes was during the 5th C usually too preoccupied with keeping the rest of the Boeotians, particularly the Orchomenians, in line to intervene very actively in surrounding areas. But merging in some surrounding places, like Locris Opuntia would surely make game-play sense, at least.

 

[Amenhotep7]

Yeah, I suppose that's the best descision, LC...We should merge a few...I was thinking about that for Phocis, too...

 

[Amenhotep7]

UNIT IDEA!!!
On this site I found an idea! According to an article in it, it says that the Spartans had a secret police, called a Krypteia. I was thinking since war weariness might be tough in Spartan Oligarchy with all those helots, this could be an expensive unit designed to reduce war weariness and make those helots happy...OR ELSE! Is this a good idea...Maybe..Yes, No???

edit: Another Idea! According to that wonderful site, the Corinthians created their own public works system to help unemployment. So maybe the Corinthians can have their own brand of democracy with reduced war weariness, since people aren't sitting around idle doing nothing!

Edit2: Idea???Anyone???

 

[Amenhotep7]

I have a possibly my best idea ever and no one responds?

 

[Patroklos]

How do you plan on making a unit reduce war weariness. I had the same idea for my Gestapo unit in my WWII scenario but couldn't think of how to get that to work.

Something in the Conquests editor that lets you do this that I don't know of yet (been too busy playing the conquests to look at the editor!)

-Pat

 

[Xen]

Spartan olgiarchy already bears a resembelance to stalinist communism in many respect, and secret police are just one of them- a minor wonder representing them, like the new secret police minor wonder, should do it

 

[Amenhotep7]

Hmm...Well, I might go with the small wonder like Xen suggested...It would probably just make one unhappy person in every Spartan city happy or content. What about my Corinthian idea???

 

[Amenhotep7]

Ekmek- How go the cities? And the map, Xen?...Sorry...I just like to manage stuff, so I ask for updates...