Player stats, sales, and reception speculation thread

[Siptah]

Apologies if this has been mentioned before, but the game is currently on sale on Steam at 30% off. This might explain why the patch announcement has not negatively affected player numbers.

Also, as we have seen with future sale periods, reviews have ticked slightly towards the negative.

Why start a sale before a rather important patch drops though? Wouldn‘t it be beneficial to have new players start with better maps, better UI, and the new balance?

 

[stealth_nsk]

Why start a sale before a rather important patch drops though? Wouldn‘t it be beneficial to have new players start with better maps, better UI, and the new balance?

As as I understand, that's the global strategic game sale, where Civ7 just participates.

BTW, ARA doesn't participate, despite major patch dropped recently. Not sure, why.

 

[aieeegrunt]

Why start a sale before a rather important patch drops though? Wouldn‘t it be beneficial to have new players start with better maps, better UI, and the new balance?

Maybe the patch got pushed back.

Edit just saw the post above mine, so it was like a general sale?

 

[stealth_nsk]

Maybe the patch got pushed back.

Edit just saw the post above mine, so it was like a general sale?

I've checked. It's generic Autumn sale, actually https://store.steampowered.com/specials/
2K is one of the many companies participating https://store.steampowered.com/curator/2428135/sale/2KAutumnSale alongside EA, Paradox, Stardock and many more.

 

[Askia Muhammad]

As as I understand, that's the global strategic game sale, where Civ7 just participates.

BTW, ARA doesn't participate, despite major patch dropped recently. Not sure, why.

Very surprised ARA didn’t participate - after their overhaul I was considering giving that game a try - but not at full price

 

[WillK96]

Very surprised ARA didn’t participate - after their overhaul I was considering giving that game a try - but not at full price

Agreed, the timing is weird. It was 1/2 off for most of August. Regretting not buying.

 

[queenpea]

Old World is US $3.99!

 

[GeneralZift]

I feel quite bad for people who pre-ordered and were disappointed.
But at least it means that people are becoming more alert about the dangers of investing money in unproven product.
Silksong proved that you can have a fudging great launch with no pre orders, no micro transactions, and £20 sale price.

Granted it's not at all the same thing over the board, but I'm saying that companies essentially relying on your Fear of missing out, with these preorder bonuses, marketing schemes and promises of a great product is just bollocks and shouldn't be allowed.

They buy out YouTubers, don't tell me they don't, to do these videos about their impressions. Well when you have your YT career on the line, and a smiling production team who put a beautiful but shallow game in front of you, you'll probably be a little rose tinted when it comes to the review.

So yea I'm peeved on behalf of these folk.
Not really about the state of the game which can be a matter of personal opinion, but about the fact consumers spend and invest so much money and soul into a product with the explicit trust of a company that often deploys tons of techniques to exploit them.

 

[Crashdummy]

I feel quite bad for people who pre-ordered and were disappointed.
But at least it means that people are becoming more alert about the dangers of investing money in unproven product.
Silksong proved that you can have a fudging great launch with no pre orders, no micro transactions, and £20 sale price.

Granted it's not at all the same thing over the board, but I'm saying that companies essentially relying on your Fear of missing out, with these preorder bonuses, marketing schemes and promises of a great product is just bollocks and shouldn't be allowed.

They buy out YouTubers, don't tell me they don't, to do these videos about their impressions. Well when you have your YT career on the line, and a smiling production team who put a beautiful but shallow game in front of you, you'll probably be a little rose tinted when it comes to the review.

So yea I'm peeved on behalf of these folk.
Not really about the state of the game which can be a matter of personal opinion, but about the fact consumers spend and invest so much money and soul into a product with the explicit trust of a company that often deploys tons of techniques to exploit them.

For me its not about the money, i couldnt care much about it, it is within my available enterainment budget

Its more about both my lifetime favourite franchises (Civilization and HoMM) being ruined already, which is sad honestly, its like a whole chapter of my life ending. Its like when you break up from a several years long relationship. Life goes on, but there is sadness

 

[WillK96]

Old World is US $3.99!

Old World is great, and very worth it at that price.

 

[bladex1200]

I feel quite bad for people who pre-ordered and were disappointed.
But at least it means that people are becoming more alert about the dangers of investing money in unproven product.
Silksong proved that you can have a fudging great launch with no pre orders, no micro transactions, and £20 sale price.

Granted it's not at all the same thing over the board, but I'm saying that companies essentially relying on your Fear of missing out, with these preorder bonuses, marketing schemes and promises of a great product is just bollocks and shouldn't be allowed.

They buy out YouTubers, don't tell me they don't, to do these videos about their impressions. Well when you have your YT career on the line, and a smiling production team who put a beautiful but shallow game in front of you, you'll probably be a little rose tinted when it comes to the review.

So yea I'm peeved on behalf of these folk.
Not really about the state of the game which can be a matter of personal opinion, but about the fact consumers spend and invest so much money and soul into a product with the explicit trust of a company that often deploys tons of techniques to exploit them.

Honestly?

As someone who preordered and was disappointed, I really don't put blame on anyone except myself. Choosing peer pressure and to believe Youtubers when you know the industry pays for good coverage and restricts unfavorable pre-release coverage is just directly playing into the hand that's been slapping you repeatedly in the face (not talking Firaxis, but the games industry in-general) for years now.

Even in the indie scene, fly-by-night projects that end up drying up and releasing nothing or a half-finished product are not uncommon in this day and age. We've always known that great launches and complete products are possible to release for any company at any size, they're simply not as profitable as releasing earlier and patching along the way, as well as carving up features to release as DLC later.

Long-gone are the days of complete games coming in reasonably-sized packages. The fact that happens from time to time is not evidence that it "can still be done", any more that the fact there are still horse-drawn carriages in tourist towns is evidence that the horse-as-transportation industry is still alive. Relics of bygone eras confirm that they are over, they don't indicate the return is just around the corner.

 

[aieeegrunt]

I feel quite bad for people who pre-ordered and were disappointed.
But at least it means that people are becoming more alert about the dangers of investing money in unproven product.
Silksong proved that you can have a fudging great launch with no pre orders, no micro transactions, and £20 sale price.

Granted it's not at all the same thing over the board, but I'm saying that companies essentially relying on your Fear of missing out, with these preorder bonuses, marketing schemes and promises of a great product is just bollocks and shouldn't be allowed.

They buy out YouTubers, don't tell me they don't, to do these videos about their impressions. Well when you have your YT career on the line, and a smiling production team who put a beautiful but shallow game in front of you, you'll probably be a little rose tinted when it comes to the review.

So yea I'm peeved on behalf of these folk.
Not really about the state of the game which can be a matter of personal opinion, but about the fact consumers spend and invest so much money and soul into a product with the explicit trust of a company that often deploys tons of techniques to exploit them.

Ya I feel like the automatic assumption that people will preorder is going to die with my generation; it made sense and you often got real value back when a pre order was an actualy physical disc, but I have no idea why people still do except inertia

For me its not about the money, i couldnt care much about it, it is within my available enterainment budget

Its more about both my lifetime favourite franchises (Civilization and HoMM) being ruined already, which is sad honestly, its like a whole chapter of my life ending. Its like when you break up from a several years long relationship. Life goes on, but there is sadness

For me it’s been Halo, Gears of War, Fallout, Far Cry and now Civilization ruined by corporate enshittification and change for the sake of change.

Borderlands 4 has been out for a while and I’m too afraid to try it yet because that one will break my heart the worst if it is also ruined.

 

[trev1972]

I feel quite bad for people who pre-ordered and were disappointed.
But at least it means that people are becoming more alert about the dangers of investing money in unproven product.
Silksong proved that you can have a fudging great launch with no pre orders, no micro transactions, and £20 sale price.

Granted it's not at all the same thing over the board, but I'm saying that companies essentially relying on your Fear of missing out, with these preorder bonuses, marketing schemes and promises of a great product is just bollocks and shouldn't be allowed.

They buy out YouTubers, don't tell me they don't, to do these videos about their impressions. Well when you have your YT career on the line, and a smiling production team who put a beautiful but shallow game in front of you, you'll probably be a little rose tinted when it comes to the review.

So yea I'm peeved on behalf of these folk.
Not really about the state of the game which can be a matter of personal opinion, but about the fact consumers spend and invest so much money and soul into a product with the explicit trust of a company that often deploys tons of techniques to exploit them.

It wasn't about money for me. I was gifted the game

Civ is the only game I play, and I have been on and off addicted since civ 1.

With my age and health issues 7 may be my last civ game it's intensely disappointing that they went in a direction I hate.

To be fair 6 was heading in a direction I didn't care for, but I still got pleasure from the game which I can't with 7.

 

[Askia Muhammad]

I really wish I loved it too - I still enjoy Civ 6 but single player - even with AI mods - is too predictable after 2,000+ hours and my multiplayer group has converted to asynchronous play which is harder for me to schedule than just 2-3 hours once a week.

Does anyone think they could turn it around with an expansion? I feel like the things I don’t like are so core to this iteration I can’t see them being changed even in a paid expansion.

 

[queenpea]

Kind of funny to me that Right to Rule was on sale (20% off) on the "first day" that all parts of it were made available to the public...

 

[Barbarian King]

Kind of funny to me that Right to Rule was on sale (20% off) on the "first day" that all parts of it were made available to the public...

It is kind of funny to discount brand new content, but on the other hand the more popular (by player count) versions of Civ are getting discounts for all their DLCs, so it would be dumping cold water on Civ 7 not to include it in the discount party.

 

[itix]

Here is the summary for the last month. The average player count had a large drop. With the latest update, I expect the player count to peak at 11,000 again on the weekend.

 

[boesthius]

I feel quite bad for people who pre-ordered and were disappointed.
But at least it means that people are becoming more alert about the dangers of investing money in unproven product.
Silksong proved that you can have a fudging great launch with no pre orders, no micro transactions, and £20 sale price.

Granted it's not at all the same thing over the board, but I'm saying that companies essentially relying on your Fear of missing out, with these preorder bonuses, marketing schemes and promises of a great product is just bollocks and shouldn't be allowed.

They buy out YouTubers, don't tell me they don't, to do these videos about their impressions. Well when you have your YT career on the line, and a smiling production team who put a beautiful but shallow game in front of you, you'll probably be a little rose tinted when it comes to the review.

So yea I'm peeved on behalf of these folk.
Not really about the state of the game which can be a matter of personal opinion, but about the fact consumers spend and invest so much money and soul into a product with the explicit trust of a company that often deploys tons of techniques to exploit them.

i mean i can without a doubt tell you that they don't buy out the impression videos unless the video specifically states "sponsored by xyz," that's what the gameplay videos are for lol

 

[GeneralZift]

i mean i can without a doubt tell you that they don't buy out the impression videos unless the video specifically states "sponsored by xyz," that's what the gameplay videos are for lol

You mean a good majority of every single big Civtuber? Who got flown out and wined and dined then played the game for free and got a sponsorship to make the video too? Yes they're bought out and these video exist to facilitate pre orders.

 

[tman2000]

It is kind of funny to discount brand new content, but on the other hand the more popular (by player count) versions of Civ are getting discounts for all their DLCs, so it would be dumping cold water on Civ 7 not to include it in the discount party.

Huh?