stealth_nsk
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They are often just boxes with download codes.
Player stats, sales, and reception speculation thread
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Naokaukodem
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Nope, the PS5 version has a Blu Ray (I presume) and you have to install it on the console SSD. I would count that as a copy. (that you can re-sell)
aieeegrunt
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Damn that takes me back
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Gamealytics and other three suggest around 1M copies sold for civ 7.
7k lows players with peaks of 8k in the weekends.
Whilst Civ IV and III combined sits around 2k each... considering they are both playable offline, I guess both of them
has in reality more concurrent gamers than C7
7k lows players with peaks of 8k in the weekends.
Whilst Civ IV and III combined sits around 2k each... considering they are both playable offline, I guess both of them
has in reality more concurrent gamers than C7
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It's Friday morning in the US, afternoon in Europe and evening in China. Late July, during Summer vacation. Civ7 currently has 8,031 players according to SteamDB. On Twitch, there are 5 live Civ7 streamers. Three of them have no viewers. One has one viewer. The most popular has 3 viewers. On Youtube, I cannot find a single Civ7 live stream. Anyone that thinks Civ7 is one or two patches away from turning its fortunes around is, sorry to say, probably delusional. To put things in perspective: Civ6 has 671 viewers on Twitch at the moment. Civ5 has 604 viewers. Civ4 has 140 viewers. Civ7? A paltry 11 viewers. This is absolutely brutal for Firaxis.
I also noticed that some of the biggest Civ 7 streamers dont post any videos anymore. At least no Civ 7. Some of them reverted bsck to Civ 6.
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They had a good run. A lot of talent has run through their doors over the years. Most of it has gone on and that's okay. I want to sincerely thank Sid and company for so many wonderful products, Civ 1 to 4, SMAC, Railroad Tycoon, and Sid's Gettysburg game which I absolutely adored. I like to think of Sid living at the end of a long hall with beautiful nurses seeing to his needs while he peacefully plays with his dinosaurs forever. He's earned it.
I think Firaxis want to ensure that their game is in good enough state before attempting another marketing push (e.g. paying streamers to make videos or stream the game).
Hardly any streamer with decent audience is going to stream the game voluntarily now, due to the negativity surrounding it and very few players actually caring enough to watch it.
We will see twitch numbers higher when Firaxis decide it's time. No sooner.
The lack of content is surely noticeable. But I mean, it's not that absolutely no one cares. On YouTube, the July developer update video has decent views, and the Genghis Khan First Look as well, both on the official channel and in reposts. Which aligns with the estimated active players of 122k according to PlayerTracker. The YouTube videos by One More Turn or JumboPixel also seem to bring in some viewers. But it's nowhere near as much as around launch – yet on YouTube a larger audience compared to what recent Civ 6 videos reached.
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It should be for sure. They go where the playerbase does
Crashdummy
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I watched the development update and i have no intention to play Civ 7 soon. But i still have hope they announce a Classic Mode is in development (although i know it would requiere time and work)
The FRANCHISE has audience and spark interest, Civ 7 does not
If anything, the high numbers the update videos have and the low numbers of people playing the game shows how much potential interest the game has, but how little amount of those people interested actually like the current implementation
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I mean, you hit the nail on the head. Their job is to make money from youtube videos... Hence why initially there were people accusing streamers of being in the pocket of 'Big Firaxis' and wearing overly rose-tinted glasses.
But at the same time, if they slow down on making Civ7 videos and/or go back to making Civ6 videos that's probably a signal of what their viewers want and are engaging with... Or that they are no longer on Firaxis' payroll (sarcasm, I don't believe this ever was the case)
I mean, it is absolutely standard practice nowadays. If you've played any non-indie games in the past 10 years or so, they've all used a portion of their marketing budget for influencer sponsorships like that.
Almost correct. It has sold well on Switch, but in the UK, PS5 was the best selling platform for physical copies. I haven't found any other relevant sales charts comparing the PS5 and Switch.
UK Charts: Civilization VII Starts Strong, Switch Version Outsells PC And Xbox
Can't quite topple EA Sports FC 25, though
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I find it plausible to have Firaxis sponsoring streamers, encouraging them to stay positive, create even more content and keep focused on Civ 7. I mean, if I was running a game studio, I would certainly pay streamers to build hype.
My only wish is that streamers should tell if they are sponsored. They should also tell if they are independent (non-sponsored) to build trust.
stealth_nsk
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I believe honest streamers do this. I don't watch video games streams, but I sometimes watch TTRPG videos and content makers there usually are quite straightforward about what they are paid for and what aren't.
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I mean, i dont want to put names, but when you have content creators calling the drop of half a $30 DLC that only has 2 leaders and 2 Civs as "absolutely wild", its hard to take them seriously
Then you have another calling this last patch a "HUGE" patch.....
Then you have another calling this last patch a "HUGE" patch.....
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