Wyrmshadow
Deity
Yes you are officialy stupid now. Go read a history book. Lands may change but poeple don't.
Polish civ, question and a poll
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OmniMower
Codename Synrise
well, I rest my case,
Verdict = Guilty as Charged....
It was a simple question not a statement... I didnt say that it was a fact, I asked if it sometime in history was any time the Polish were the Pruesseans? Nothing more..... And Yes people DON`T change..... I dont have to plow throug some darn books to even post a question! Do you?
/OmniMower
Verdict = Guilty as Charged....
It was a simple question not a statement... I didnt say that it was a fact, I asked if it sometime in history was any time the Polish were the Pruesseans? Nothing more..... And Yes people DON`T change..... I dont have to plow throug some darn books to even post a question! Do you?
/OmniMower
Kal-el
Deity
Lets be nice, people. He was brave enough to ask the question, he should be treated civilly.
"Prussia was the largest and most important of the German states. Berlin was the capital. The chief member of the German Empire (18711918) and a state of the Weimar Republic (191933), Prussia occupied more than half of all Germany and the major part of N Germany. Before 1919 it consisted of 13 provinces: Berlin, Brandenburg, East Prussia (separated after 1919 from the rest of Prussia by the Polish Corridor), Hanover, Hesse-Nassau (see Hesse), Hohenzollern (a Prussian enclave between Württemberg and Baden in SW Germany), Pomerania, Rhine Province, Saxony, Schleswig-Holstein, Upper Silesia and Lower Silesia, and Westphalia. (Grenzmark Posen-West Prussia was sometimes considered a 14th province.) Prussia surrounded several smaller German states and stretched from the borders of the Netherlands, Belgium, and Luxembourg in the west to those of Lithuania and Poland in the east, and from the Baltic Sea, Denmark, and the North Sea in the north to the Main River, the Thuringian Forest, and the Sudetes Mts. in the south.
The region that was Prussia is made up mainly of low-lying land, drained by several rivers, notably the Rhine; the Weser; the Oder; and the Elbe, which divided the state into roughly equal eastern and western parts. After Berlin, the largest cities of the area were Cologne, Breslau (Wroclaw), Essen, Frankfurt, Düsseldorf, Hanover, Dortmund, Magdeburg, and Königsberg (Kaliningrad). The region also included the gigantic industrial Ruhr district.
Industrially and politically the most prominent state of Germany prior to World War II, Prussia was partitioned among the four Allied occupation zones after 1945. In 1947 the Allied Control Council for Germany formally abolished the state of Prussia. This action not only confirmed an accomplished fact; it was also intended as a blow against the spirit of German militarism and aggression, long held to be connected with Prussia. Most of the former Prussian provinces became part of the new states of the Federal Republic of Germany and of the German Democratic Republic (now reunified). The USSR annexed the northern part of East Prussia; Poland acquired the rest of East Prussia, as well as all Prussian territory E of the Oder and Neisse rivers." infoplease.com
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"Prussia was the largest and most important of the German states. Berlin was the capital. The chief member of the German Empire (18711918) and a state of the Weimar Republic (191933), Prussia occupied more than half of all Germany and the major part of N Germany. Before 1919 it consisted of 13 provinces: Berlin, Brandenburg, East Prussia (separated after 1919 from the rest of Prussia by the Polish Corridor), Hanover, Hesse-Nassau (see Hesse), Hohenzollern (a Prussian enclave between Württemberg and Baden in SW Germany), Pomerania, Rhine Province, Saxony, Schleswig-Holstein, Upper Silesia and Lower Silesia, and Westphalia. (Grenzmark Posen-West Prussia was sometimes considered a 14th province.) Prussia surrounded several smaller German states and stretched from the borders of the Netherlands, Belgium, and Luxembourg in the west to those of Lithuania and Poland in the east, and from the Baltic Sea, Denmark, and the North Sea in the north to the Main River, the Thuringian Forest, and the Sudetes Mts. in the south.
The region that was Prussia is made up mainly of low-lying land, drained by several rivers, notably the Rhine; the Weser; the Oder; and the Elbe, which divided the state into roughly equal eastern and western parts. After Berlin, the largest cities of the area were Cologne, Breslau (Wroclaw), Essen, Frankfurt, Düsseldorf, Hanover, Dortmund, Magdeburg, and Königsberg (Kaliningrad). The region also included the gigantic industrial Ruhr district.
Industrially and politically the most prominent state of Germany prior to World War II, Prussia was partitioned among the four Allied occupation zones after 1945. In 1947 the Allied Control Council for Germany formally abolished the state of Prussia. This action not only confirmed an accomplished fact; it was also intended as a blow against the spirit of German militarism and aggression, long held to be connected with Prussia. Most of the former Prussian provinces became part of the new states of the Federal Republic of Germany and of the German Democratic Republic (now reunified). The USSR annexed the northern part of East Prussia; Poland acquired the rest of East Prussia, as well as all Prussian territory E of the Oder and Neisse rivers." infoplease.com
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OmniMower
Codename Synrise
Thanx Kal-el,
I know my history, but I wasn´t prepared to be knocked down to my feets over one question..... this make my participation in the threads less willing.... but I know there are a majority of the CivFan´s who are more polite than that....
/OmniMower
I know my history, but I wasn´t prepared to be knocked down to my feets over one question..... this make my participation in the threads less willing.... but I know there are a majority of the CivFan´s who are more polite than that....
/OmniMower
Wyrmshadow
Deity
Well I didnt mean to sound that rude, I apologize. Slavic peoples and the Germanic tribes are not related. About 1000 years ago the Teutonic knights were granted fiefdoms along the Baltic coast in what became Pomerania, East Prussia and I think they may have extended as far as the present Baltic states of Latvia and Lithuania. The only catch was that they had to convert the local heathens to christianity, and they did so by the most violent of measures which did not make them very popular with the locals. It was only several hundred years later that the last of the Teutonic Order were thrown out by the locals. I do not remember any specific dates, only generaly what happened. Now for the Poles... There was a slavic tribe that settled in what are now the borders of modern Poland. They were called the Polen (I think) which translated to "people of the Plains" One of the first kings converted to Roman Christianity in 966, (I think it was Boreslav the Great, Piernik correct me if I'm wrong). Germanics and Slavs are two distinct poeples that have fought over the same border lands for what amounts to eons. If someone knows better please correct me, but I think Pomerania (the land that borders the Baltic closest to Germany today, extends from Gdansk to Stettin) has been for the longest time Prussian. However, the southern half of the clamp of eastern Germany that you see in Pre-WW1 maps is Silesia, and that has historically been Polish. OmniMower, I think this area was what was confusing you. This border especially has changed hands many times but the poeple haven't, except in the last 50 years with the drawing of new borders after WW2 and the forced deportation of Germans from Pomerania to be replaced by Poles from the eastern provinces that became a part of the Ukraine.
Again I apologize for biting your head off OmniMower.
Again I apologize for biting your head off OmniMower.
OmniMower
Codename Synrise
Tnx for your answer Wyrmshadow,
the history you gave me now is GOOD along with Kal-els. But it was a simple question I asked, and you wont be close to bite my head off....
My sister is from Poland and she has study the Polish history the past 10 years, so is there anything I want to know I´ll ask her!, thats whyì am interested in this thread, but I thank you anyway for the information.....it was good, I learned alot off it.
(my sis is not on location therefor I asked you hwo knows better then I do).....
/kind regards OmniMower
the history you gave me now is GOOD along with Kal-els. But it was a simple question I asked, and you wont be close to bite my head off....
My sister is from Poland and she has study the Polish history the past 10 years, so is there anything I want to know I´ll ask her!, thats whyì am interested in this thread, but I thank you anyway for the information.....it was good, I learned alot off it.
(my sis is not on location therefor I asked you hwo knows better then I do).....
/kind regards OmniMower
I've got one problem.
I'm trying to get the animation to flc file and I can do that, but I don't have any idea how to get so small size of the animation.
The oryginal flcs from civ3 have 1,2-2,3MB mine - 4MB (250 colors).
When I tried to reduce color to 150 it wasn't better at all...
And when I tried to reduce quality in Jasc Animation Shop The quality was very bad and it still had about 4 MB.
What to do??
I'm trying to get the animation to flc file and I can do that, but I don't have any idea how to get so small size of the animation.
The oryginal flcs from civ3 have 1,2-2,3MB mine - 4MB (250 colors).
When I tried to reduce color to 150 it wasn't better at all...
And when I tried to reduce quality in Jasc Animation Shop The quality was very bad and it still had about 4 MB.
What to do??
Piernik, I got your email but I'll answer it here so it doesn't look like I'm a jerk 
Some leaderheads are just larger then others. The reason why the ones in the game are so small is because they avoided having a certain amount of colors. There's no pure black, and there's really not completely different colors unless necessary (ie: if there's green in the leaderhead, there probably won't be red).
I got lucky with Robert. If you ask me, it's still a large file but it's alot smaller then others. Use Jasc Animation Shop, like you are, and fidn yourself a good server. I use freeservers.com, but i don't think that'll have enough space. You might actually have to spend some money and get one of their packages (like $5.00 a month. There's really nothing you can do to make the file size smaller.
Some leaderheads are just larger then others. The reason why the ones in the game are so small is because they avoided having a certain amount of colors. There's no pure black, and there's really not completely different colors unless necessary (ie: if there's green in the leaderhead, there probably won't be red).
I got lucky with Robert. If you ask me, it's still a large file but it's alot smaller then others. Use Jasc Animation Shop, like you are, and fidn yourself a good server. I use freeservers.com, but i don't think that'll have enough space. You might actually have to spend some money and get one of their packages (like $5.00 a month. There's really nothing you can do to make the file size smaller.
Veera Anlai
Southern Belle
Sigh... I have problems reducing the colors as well; no fun! It all comes out grainy, so I have to be careful about the backgrounds I choose and such. Before I import them into Poser, I just reduce their colors to 16. And if it doesn't reduce to 16 well, then I find a different background ^_^
I thinked it over, and I think that size doesn't depent on color. Yes it's better to have 100 colors then 255 but leaders from civ3 have about 250 colors, and it does not matter if there is green and red and blue. You've got 250 colors and that's it. You can have 250 colors of gray or the whole rainbow - the size will be the same. Am I right?
i think it is in the way of compression... but how? I don't have any idea...
i think it is in the way of compression... but how? I don't have any idea...
Wyrmshadow
Deity
I just dont think he looks convincingly Polish enough, I think you should lose the goatee and go for a nice thick mustache like Lech Walensa. He visited my university last year but I didn't get a chance to talk to him or anything, all I can say is that he was a short man. Piernik, can you try for a thick mustache?
Veera Anlai
Southern Belle
I absolutely love it Piernik ^_^
[Edit: I like him better with the goatee]
[Edit2: And with the glasses. He looks like my dad...]
Anyways, I'm not sure if I understand your problem... Are you having problems getting the colors down to 255? Or are you having problems making the file size smaller?
With the file size, there's very little you can do. Try compressing the file using a ZIP program may reduce the size a few kilobytes.
WinACE will compress it much more than WinZIP will
I *love* WinACE. It compressed a 3.11 MB FLIC file into a 1.18 MB file. Big difference. The only problem with WinACE is that to unzip it, the user will have to download the WinACE program, which is a large download and isn't used very commonly on the Internet... It's up to you.
[Edit: I like him better with the goatee]
[Edit2: And with the glasses. He looks like my dad...]
Anyways, I'm not sure if I understand your problem... Are you having problems getting the colors down to 255? Or are you having problems making the file size smaller?
With the file size, there's very little you can do. Try compressing the file using a ZIP program may reduce the size a few kilobytes.
WinACE will compress it much more than WinZIP will
I *love* WinACE. It compressed a 3.11 MB FLIC file into a 1.18 MB file. Big difference. The only problem with WinACE is that to unzip it, the user will have to download the WinACE program, which is a large download and isn't used very commonly on the Internet... It's up to you.
I've got problem with a small size...
I said that what colors are like doesn't matter, but I wasn't right...
I rendered in 200 colors modern era (mainly blue) and ancient (colorful). The modern one has 2.8MB and ancient - 4.3MB So it does matter.
I know about WinAce. It's good archiver thx
I said that what colors are like doesn't matter, but I wasn't right...
I rendered in 200 colors modern era (mainly blue) and ancient (colorful). The modern one has 2.8MB and ancient - 4.3MB So it does matter.
I know about WinAce. It's good archiver
thx
