Pollution in Civ3 mimics reality perfectly!

[SilverKnight]

CNN Article- Global Warming

Seems like the designers of Civ3 saw ^this^ coming a mile away! The same things they are now describing might happen to our ecosystem are the things that happen in a game of Civ with too much pollution! Forests and grasslands becoming plains, plains becoming deserts... pretty spooky bit of programming, I think!

SilverKnight

 

[777]

I remember to read somewhere that they've allready seen it in here Finland. They noticed when birch tree have been recently spreaded to more north. And that was caused by climate warming.
But at the other hand, I wouldn't mind if our avarage temperature would rise a bit of. It's too cold here at winter ******in' *****in'*

I think it has been pretty obviously for a long time that pollution causes climate warming and problems follows after it.

I can't properly explain this in english, well hope I made atleast some sense.

 

[dresdor]

The concept of Global Warming and what it would do isn't exactly a new subject. It was well studied before Civ 2 even.

 

[morbror_sven]

The concept of Global Warming and what it would do isn't exactly a new subject. It was well studied before Civ 2 even.

Yeah... It's not until now we have "suffered" the consequenses(since i live in a northern country i think of global warming as something good.)

 

[IXIRandyIXI]

This proves it. All of our lives is truly just a game of Civilization 3.

 

[DBear]

Yes, but C3C treats volcanic lava as pollution which is not realistic.

 

[Praetorian]

Yes, but C3C treats volcanic lava as pollution which is not realistic.

I don't know, if I had unwanted lava in my backyard it would be pollution, if it was in my enemy's backyard it would be godsend

 

[Mordack]

I understand that pollution will be removed from the next release

thank goodness for small miracles

 

[c0dename_snake]

I remember to read somewhere that they've allready seen it in here Finland. They noticed when birch tree have been recently spreaded to more north. And that was caused by climate warming.
But at the other hand, I wouldn't mind if our avarage temperature would rise a bit of. It's too cold here at winter ******in' *****in'*

Hey...think about the countries along the equator, it's freaking 37 degree celcius every freaking day....no more global warming. OK!!

 

[777]

Hey...think about the countries along the equator, it's freaking 37 degree celcius every freaking day....no more global warming. OK!!

Ugh, I wouldn't take it even a minute. But you're used to it, so you wouldn't mind few degrees more

 

[Dreadnought]

Too bad in civ3 tehy don't have the poles melting and increasing water levels because thats what is going to happen soon!

 

[SilverKnight]

I understand that pollution will be removed from the next release

thank goodness for small miracles

Ack! That means they're planning something worse!

I for one am scared, and need to be held.

SilverKnight

 

[Jaybe]

Too bad in civ3 tehy don't have the poles melting and increasing water levels because thats what is going to happen soon!

While it is good to fear that (so we might try to prevent it), we do not know what will happen. The global warming may just trigger higher atmospheric humidity, altered weather patterns, or even an Ice Age!

 

[Theoden]

I don't know, if I had unwanted lava in my backyard it would be pollution, if it was in my enemy's backyard it would be godsend

The ground around a volcano that is covered by lava is one of the most fertile places, so it really shouldn't be pollution.

 

[ZubieMaster]

While it is good to fear that (so we might try to prevent it), we do not know what will happen.

Or *if* we can prevent it. After all, we don't even know if humans are the cause of global warming, just that it is happening. Many of the other planets in the solar system are showing signs of global warming without humans (see Pluto's increasing atmospheric activity despite it's retreat from the sun). Civ's problem in its global warming model (that it's triggered by more factories, etc.) is that it reflects the attitude that humans can influence it, when that might be hubris, not fact. People don't like to think of themselves as just insignificant ants crawling around a giant globe, after all... Me, I think it's a combination of the two: we certainly should do everything we can not to pollute but can't forget there might be a piece of the universe that's more important than us that we need to understand.

 

[Theoden]

@ZubieMaster
What you are describing would improve realism but...
as for the gameplay it would be a step backwards if the player was damaged by more events that he cannot control. The reason that, in civ, humans are in complete control of global warming is because it makes the game more fun, not because the developers think the world is like that.

 

[ZubieMaster]

@ZubieMaster
What you are describing would improve realism but...
as for the gameplay it would be a step backwards if the player was damaged by more events that he cannot control.

Hehe, true ... imagine if after playing for hours your Civ game ended with the message, "A giant asteroid just hit, you all lose!"

But my post was more in response to the CNN article linked in the original post, where "human activity" is the end all, be all of their global warming discussion...

 

[Praetorian]

Hey...think about the countries along the equator, it's freaking 37 degree celcius every freaking day....no more global warming. OK!!

37 degrees celcius, not a bad day

 

[Ruby Lady]

i learned in my environmental science class the other day that global warming could cause northern areas to become colder because the excess freshwater running off the ice caps would shut down the north atlantic currents which bring warm waters up from the equator. without this warming influence, the northern hemisphere would become even more unbearable. -40 in January is cold enough for me thank you very much . now that i have proved my science geekyness, we can move on...

(that's - 40 celsius in northern Alberta, Canada, by the way, in case anyone was wondering)

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

I realize now that I maybe should have waited a while with my first post, but I didn't think I would get interest and sign up's so quickly

We get that much in Québec city, and with the winds, up to -50°C. Few here can bear that, morally