posters leaving....

[Lt. 'Killer' M.]

sorry, eyrei

 

[eyrei]

Originally posted by Lt. 'Killer' M.
sorry, eyrei

No problem. I must admit to being somewhat intoxicated when I posted that, so any confusion was probably the fault of Mr. Jim Beam.

 

[Lt. 'Killer' M.]

Originally posted by eyrei


No problem. I must admit to being somewhat intoxicated when I posted that, so any confusion was probably the fault of Mr. Jim Beam.

he is a baaaaaad mothafukka

 

[Simon Darkshade]

As has been referred to, OT is generally not as fun as is it once was, due to what is being posted. There is also a higher turnover rate of posters, and as a natural consequence, a percentage of these will be of the type who cruise in and proclaim they know everything.
It is a combination of the consequences of growth from that Civ3 game that these newbies seem to play, and natural attrition.
As for me, I've been around for a while, but am scaling back gradually to the point of effectively "leaving", and dropping back in when there is a decent thread about. It is part of my overall policy at the moment, to leave all except one or two of the places I frequent out of sheer evil inscrutability.
That, and none of the old crowd being about, too much of a cascade of disdain, not enough hangings of Communists, and the children are ugly and playing hard to get.

 

[Greadius]

People come and go.. I for one am glad, its the fresh blood that keeps things interesting for me.

One point of confusion: why does stopping in OT equate stopping in other active forums? I stopped posting in Civ3 General but not in OT... why can't the reverse be done?

 

[Sanscizo]

Originally posted by CurtSibling
But that is not the reason I am elsewhere...Sometimes a man has to change the scenery.
I want to explore new worlds, and confound new people with my cheeky Brit wit!

What was I saying before about the posters in question just wanting to explore new things?

 

[floppa21]

War can be a bit of a damper on threads I must agree. And if you're me, other people can be a bit of a damper on many threads.

People leave, and sometimes they come back. Look at DuckofFlanders for example. Others do not return. LeninThePenguin or something like that comes to mind...

Avoid the topics you dislike, (easy to say at times ) and if there is nothing else worth partaking of as some seem to insinuate, go if it please you.

Curt you dirtbag. You too Darky.

 

[Silverflame]

Originally posted by Greadius

One point of confusion: why does stopping in OT equate stopping in other active forums? I stopped posting in Civ3 General but not in OT... why can't the reverse be done?

Mostly because OT is full of people who have been at CFC for a while, when Civ3 General is filling with newbies day by day. By the time I left Civ3 General, everyone I knew when I was new there such as Cgannon64, wildfire444, KD, and Sultan all gradually stopped posting, while most of the people in Civ3 General were >100 posters who were all new. So I migrated to OT.

As for other forums, the only big ones I can think of where it's confusing are Succession Games, PBEM, and numerous demogrames. But those are ones where people rarely stop.

I think my theory is that usually in OT people get to know each other faster than in the other forums. How often do you see someone expressing their view on the War on Iraq in Civ3 General? As personalities are easier to learn in OT, I guess when people with high postcounts leave causes quite a bit of stir.

 

[Switch625]

Originally posted by ainwood
However, there are a lot of other OT regulars who have hardly been to the place this year. And if you ask them, I would wager that its got more to do with what's being posted there than with how the moderating is done.

I agree. I swore I'd never do the "I'm leaving!" type of post, as I think they are egotistical in nature. Also, I do lurk around occasionally, so I suppose it's not completely correct to say I've "left."

But, I have a desire to explain myself. Also to support the moderators, as this thread looks like another attempt at moderator bashing.

I no longer have any desire to post in OT. And since I no longer play Civ of any version, I didn't post anywhere but OT. As ainwood said, it's not the moderators that have driven me away. It's the content of what's being posted.

 

[Alcibiaties of Athenae]

I'm of the opinion that people can leave or stay as they chose.

These 'Vanity" threads are damned stupid.

You want to go, than go.

But if you think your changing me one iota, dream on.

I'll outlast any new punk that comes my way, and will be here long after they are gone.

 

[Hygro]

Originally posted by Alcibiaties of Athenae
I'm of the opinion that people can leave or stay as they chose.
These 'Vanity" threads are damned stupid.
You want to go, than go.
But if you think your changing me one iota, dream on.
I'll outlast any new punk that comes my way, and will be here long after they are gone.

I this a good thing, or just a thing

(as in I'm trying to figure out in what tone of voice you would have said this in if you had been speaking allowed)

 

[Alcibiaties of Athenae]

It means I'm not impressed by "I'm leaving forever" threads.

I find them childish.

 

[Procifica]

Total Posts: 58 (23.78 posts per day)

Wow sanscizo, that's a large amount of posts per day, even higher than mine.

No matter what the post count, I feel everyone should be entitled to their opinion.

This is site feedback, and everyone should be able to give feedback, regardless of post count.

As to the topic of this thread, I can see sometimes just in this forum that AoA sometimes appears "rude" in his posts (at least to me). Maybe rude isn't the word...maybe more of "strongly worded". That can come off as rude to some people. At least, this is how I would take it if some of the stuff said by AoA was said to me instead of Killer. So, I could see why he's decided to leave.

AoA: This is not a mod-bashing post, I'm posting an opinion, based on what I personally have seen in the Site Feedback forum (and a few threads in Off-Topic). I respect the way you root out troublemakers, as I do all mods. These forums are the best moderated forums I've ever been to. If you choose to take this post as a mod-bashing post...that would be your choice.

 

[Procifica]

Originally posted by Alcibiaties of Athenae
It means I'm not impressed by "I'm leaving forever" threads.

I find them childish.

This technically isn't a "I'm leaving forever" thread. This wasn't even posted by Killer or anyone else who is/was leaving, far as I know.

 

[Procifica]

Originally posted by Toasty
I don't understand how it can not be consideration that moderation played a part in these people's leavings. It is a pattern that I, and I am sure many have noticed, that a disproportionately large part of those who advocate support for the moderation in such situations also advocate an amount of right-wing support in OT.

The simple fact that there is a correlation between the two should be of some significance.

By and large I think AoA and Lefty do a good job, even when I've been banned on past occasions. However, I think that they, like all persons, are human. For example, while I find all unreasonably far right- or left-wing persons inflammatory, the right-winged persons always seem far more offensive.

Because the moderators themselves are people in a free society, and have personal beliefs on such issues, this is expressed (however unintentionally) through their job of discerning what is a "flame," "troll," or whatever.

Does this warrant a change of the moderation? The only idea I have is to include a more left-leaning moderator, however AoA and Lefty have already said they do not desire more OT moderators.

As such, I'm content with the system the way it is, however to say that the system is without problems is something I disagree with.

I don't see what right-wing and left-wing has to do with moderating an off-topic forum. I consider myself further left than a typical United States Democrat, yet I'm fully supportive of the war in Iraq, and other "right-wing" topics or ideas. I don't see how politics can dictate how one moderates a forum, or how one posts in a forum.

 

[Sanscizo]

Originally posted by Procifica
Total Posts: 58 (23.78 posts per day)

Wow sanscizo, that's a large amount of posts per day, even higher than mine.

Well, I think I'm probably going to clear off for a while in a couple of day's time, that is when my original forum starts working again (it's down at the moment).

Anyway, so far I've enjoyed posting here but I seem to have come at a bad time with so many people complaining about the quality of OT now. I'm convinced it will change for the better soon enough though.

 

[Lt. 'Killer' M.]

Originally posted by Alcibiaties of Athenae
I'm of the opinion that people can leave or stay as they chose.

These 'Vanity" threads are damned stupid.

You want to go, than go.

But if you think your changing me one iota, dream on.

I'll outlast any new punk that comes my way, and will be here long after they are gone.

what kind of an attitude is that? do you rellay think you can stay totally unchanged foever? You know, the world out there *is* changing.......... And those who do not change with it, die out.

 

[CurtSibling]

Ho ho!

I don't play ego games...
And I personally would not expect anyone to care about me leaving or staying...
It's an internet forum, for goodness sake!

And with all the old hands gone and all the new people kicking around, I might even be tempted to change my mind and come back...

I'm unpredictable like that!

CFC is a good place and if you posters all want more fun in OT, do something about it!!!
Stop whing and create some vibes with a good mind-feeding thread!

 

[Jeratain]

I have no comment on anyone leaving or whatnot. It's not my problem nor is it my business.

I have a suggestion for those of you who don't enjoy OT as much anymore and if you don't want to take a vacation: Start over.

Over time each of you develop a certain style and reputation on these boards, well wipe it all away by deleting your original user name and starting over. Don't let anyone know (of course the mods will know, and people might figure it out if your style is unmistakable) and just see how different it is to be a newbie once again.

Or you can do what others do and just change your name, though I doubt that does much.

Anyhow, to those of you who have left, bon voyage, and I hope you all find a place that suits you well.

 

[Alcibiaties of Athenae]

Originally posted by Lt. 'Killer' M.
what kind of an attitude is that? do you rellay think you can stay totally unchanged foever? You know, the world out there *is* changing.......... And those who do not change with it, die out.

You seem to think your my lil ego.

One should concern one's self with their own affairs, and not attempt to tell others how they should be doing things.

You will find in life, it makes things smother to let those intrusted to do a job, do that job, instead of always attempting to "change" them.

And as for change, I thought you had, but I wonder about that now.

As to the topic of this thread, I can see sometimes just in this forum that AoA sometimes appears "rude" in his posts (at least to me). Maybe rude isn't the word...maybe more of "strongly worded". That can come off as rude to some people. At least, this is how I would take it if some of the stuff said by AoA was said to me instead of Killer. So, I could see why he's decided to leave.

His leaving has nothing to do with me, I never heard of him till a few months ago, and I have been on this site a LONG TIME.

Also, many things are meant to be "strongly worded", I have a long standing rule of treating people by the way they act.

I find I have few kind words and little sypathy for people who cause trouble at CFC.

And in over two years on this site, I have yet to see a single constructive thread of this type.

They want to go?

Bye.

Stop in anytime.