Preview: ICNES II: If He Would Have Waited, my future NES

[Wubba360]

I believe I will reserve Great Britain, please. So sign me up ice. By the way how strong is Japan.

 

[Icmancin]

Japan isn't that strong, yet. She hasn't begun much modernization, yet.

 

[Swissempire]

I reseve the French

 

[JosefStalinator]

Damn it... I wanted GB


EDIT: Damned noobs keep taking all the good spots...

I guess I'll have to take Denmark-Norway or Sweden-Finland, whichever is more powerful

 

[~Darkening~]

Since I've left a few other NESes, I'll give my hand at a smaller nation in this.

Can I reserve the Abyssinian Empire?

 

[das]

French regulars push into the Hudson Bay region

Spanish regulars begin advance along the Mssissipi River and from Florida against the British.

Logistically impossible. Plus the British wouldn't just give up the initiative - they could attack and attack for as long as they please. Since Quiberon Bay, both the French and the Spanish were firmly on the defensive and their defeat was a matter of time.

Naval Assault on Newfoundland

With what fleet?

British attack the Dutch, recent allies of France.

Why would they do that if the Family Compact just went on an offensive? Its a bit like Hitler attacking USSR immediately after a D-Day equivalent.

French occupy Belgium, formerly of the Holy Roman Empire.

And why do they want to screw up their relations with one of their few strong AND reliable allies?

Premature Contientalist rebellion erupts under Washington.

Washington was a loyal British soldier, not to mention an utter nobody.

French and Spanish forces link up in Central North America.

That statement is wrong on many levels, I'm afraid...

Abyssinia fights a brief war with the Turks.

Geographically impossible.

War weary nations sign a Christmas truce.

No, they don't. They just don't fight at winter...

Massive French-Spanish fleet barely defeats British fleet headed for America.

Where would they assemble such a fleet at the time, without losing their entire colonial empire? And even then, their fleets at the time were utterly outclassed. They had no chance at all by then.

Russians begin to settle Alaska in fear of Western European colonial Empires.

a) Where will such a fear come from? Their allies seem to be taking over the Americas, what's wrong with that?
b) Russia had nothing better to do in 1762?

Portugeuse soldiers attack Spanish New Granada.

And why do they do that, omitting the problem of logistics?

Brazil attacked from multiple fronts.

Logistics, min hertz, logistics...

Persia developes war with the Afghan tribes.

The Zands weren't nearly strong enough for that.

Most of British America has fallen to the French.

Even if they capture it, which by itself even with massive penguin intervention is somewhat implausible... how do they hold it with their OTL pathetic colonial demographics? And what's the incentive, finally, for them to try and conquer it?

Russian colonial efforts in Alaska hindered.

By the Aleuts?

Mughal Empire begins campaign against Britain in Southern India.

You're a year late, I'm afraid. It already ceased to exist as such...

Italian revolts against Spain.

These Italians are really slow, aren't they? The Spanish lost their last Italian holdings in the War of Spanish Succession.

Papal States and Sardinia-Piedmont erected as independent states.

a) They already were independent and in fact never were subordinate to Spain;
b) Its Savoy before the Napoleonic Wars.

Treaty of Bordeaux: Franco-Spanish dominance in America guarenteed. British North America reduced to Newfoundland.

I already said all that there is to say on the issue of Britain giving up.

Holy Roman Empire collapses as Austria creates separate Empire.

If France won the Seven Years War, why the hell would the Holy Roman Empire collapse? And Austria, de facto anyway, was a separate empire since 1648 if not earlier.

The minor German states formed from the fall of the Holy Roman Empire form the two naitons of Prussia, and the Kingdom centralized around Brunswick.

Both Prussia and Hannover were already in existance. Btw, you do know that as of the 18th century the HRE wasn't exactly a single state, right?

 

[Lord_Iggy]

By the Aleuts?

Don't the Tuchone, Haida, Chilkoot, Chilkat and Tagish who hassled them too.

 

[das]

They're further inland, from what I recall, though as there was strife with them in OTL I'd let that go...

 

[Wubba360]

das you just schooled Ice!

 

[Lord_Iggy]

They're further inland, from what I recall, though as there was strife with them in OTL I'd let that go...

I did a Yukon first nation history class a summer a few years ago. The coastal tribes of Chilkoot and Chilkat got troublesome at times, although they were mostly peaceful.

The Tuchone and Tagish were inland, yes, but the Russian claim on Alaska went inland as well.

But let's not argue this, it's just a minor detail. And I think we're being a bit too harsh on Icmancin here too. He's only been NESing for a little while.

 

[das]

He was asking for it when he promised that this one will be plausible.

 

[Swissempire]

Don't make him get rid of my French Holdings

 

[Wubba360]

Yes make Britain Super power with holding on America

 

[Swissempire]

No, if you do ice

 

[das]

IMHO if France wins Seven Years War (via Quiberon), other, just as interesting developments take place. In the colonies, pre-war status quo is restored, though I could see France regaining Acadia; note that this also means French retention of southeast India (see NES2 VI for approximate borders), causing a multipolar colonial India (Britain, France, Netherlands and Portugal being the main players). In Europe, Spain MIGHT regain Gibraltar. Prussia will be partitioned, leading to very interesting changes. Sweden will regain East Pommerania, and might become a great power once again. Russia will gain East Prussia and will later annex the entirety of Poland. Austria will gain Silesia, and, for the lack of Prussian interference, also take over Bavaria, while the Wittelsbachs will get to rebuild the Kingdom of Burgundy (the Austrians promised them the Austrian Netherlands in exchange for Bavaria). Brandenburg will remain a small neutral nation, with the possibility of eventual Austrian annexation. Oh, and there's a possibility of an British Revolution, and, by extent, a Danish one (the revolutionary British fleet arriving in Copenhagen just in time to save the good doctor Struensee!)...