[PREVIEW Thread] LuckNES IV: Generation of Glory

Sweden has a very large population and Cuiv said that the Scandinavian colonies in South America were very populated. At the same time both the navy and army are smaller than the UK, which never favored land power in any way while the Swedish component of the SU did. Cuiv also said that Scandinavia was a constant competitor of the UK and Dutch on the seas, which means that it should have a navy at least comparable to the British and Dutch ones, if not quite on the same level.
 
Sweden has a very large population and Cuiv said that the Scandinavian colonies in South America were very populated. At the same time both the navy and army are smaller than the UK, which never favored land power in any way while the Swedish component of the SU did. Cuiv also said that Scandinavia was a constant competitor of the UK and Dutch on the seas, which means that it should have a navy at least comparable to the British and Dutch ones, if not quite on the same level.

Note. I did not go fully by Cuiv's design. I took liberty. Your Navy is similar in size and quite large. Britain needs a larger military as it holds large territories in continental Europe. Which would make sense. They don't just need ships to defend themselves at this point. Sweden's population even today is only 9 Million. So don't get to me on the population. 1/9th of the population can't be soldiers.

@ Thomander: I will edit the rules to be 2 divisions per EP. Like in LuckNES 2.
 
So you are going to ignore the alt hist writer's design and you are not going to listen to criticism? How...egotistical. Cuiv wrote the TL, so like every other Mod that does someone else's alt hist you should follow her design. As for the UK, all they control is Brittany and a small enclave in Normandy, where as Scandinavia controls all of, well, Scandinavia with long borders in both Germany and Finland and a long history of land wars as compared to the British history which disfavors land based military power.
 
She never officially wrote anything. She just designed the map and thought it would be a good POD. Your military is good. You are not out matched. Besides you can easily catch up. I can't have everyone being overly powerful.
 
While I still feel that you way overbalanced in favor of the British and a few nations, I will not push the issue, as you seem totally opposed to any criticism and any possible rebalancing.
 
OTL Scandinavia had a large army because they didn't hav ethe need for a large navy. It's expensive to support both a large navy and army (like in this time line). If you compare the relative sizes of both empire, the ratio of land owned to army/navy size isn't that far off.
 
While I still feel that you way overbalanced in favor of the British and a few nations, I will not push the issue, as you seem totally opposed to any criticism and any possible rebalancing.

I do not believe the British are overly powered. You are looking at it from a 1 on 1 perspective. An Alliance would win hands down. Most of the nations in Western Europe can take on Britain.
 
I will take the Byzantine nation then if it hasnt been taken.

I called it last week. And I dont mind fighting a civil war for the right to rule it. :)
 
I hereby launch a civil war with Germanicus over the Roman Empire.

Now I am confused... I claimed the Byzantine Empire on March 15... Dach posted the above message 9 days later. His first post in the whole thread it seems.

Nonetheless, I will reserve the Ottoman Empire and wait for Dach to respond whether he wants it or not.
 
Speaking of population, considering how this is pre-industrial revolution where the world's population isn't that large period, maybe the army increases shouldn't be 5 divisions, especially considering how the numbers we're starting with are relatively small anyway?

I agree. I think Harlequin's system should be used.
 
And the rest. Thanks to Kal'Thzar for the non European nations.
Spoiler Rest of Stats :
Americas:
Nation Name: Russian America Company
Capital: Novo-Arkhangelsk
Ruler: /Darkening
Government: Russian Dependency; Business Model
Centralization: Unitary
Tech. Level: Late Enlightened Age
Army (Training): 8 Divisions (Good)
Navy (Training): 20 Squadrons (Normal)
Economy: Normal (+1)
Size (points required): Medium (2)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Competent/ Competent
Infrastructure: Barely Tolerable
Education: Tolerable
Living Standards: Very Low
Culture: Average
Confidence: Barely Tolerating
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Tarascan Empire
Capital: Tzintzuntzan
Ruler: /
Government: Empire
Centralization: Unitary
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 24 Divisions (Semi-Rabble)
Navy (Training):
Economy: Groweing (+2)
Size (points required): Medium (2)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Incompetent/Barely Tolerable
Infrastructure: Pathetic
Education: Dumb
Living Standards: Slums
Culture: Devoted
Confidence: Tolerating
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Quiché
Capital: Gumarcaj
Ruler: /
Government: Monarchy
Centralization: Loose Federation
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): Semi-Enlightened; 16 Divisions (Rabble)
Navy (Training):
Economy: Good Enough (+2)
Size (points required): Medium (2)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Barely Tolerating/ Barely Tolerating
Infrastructure: Dirt Paths
Education: Dumb
Living Standards: Slums
Culture: Average
Confidence: Tolerating
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Incan Empire
Capital: Cusco
Ruler: /
Government: Monarchy
Centralization: Tight Federation
Tech. Level: Pre Enlightened Age
Army (Training): 30 Divisions (Tolerable)
Navy (Training):
Economy: Growing (+2)
Size (points required): Medium (2)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Barely Tolerable/ Tolerable
Infrastructure: Pathetic
Education: Dumb
Living Standards: Slums
Culture: Devoted
Confidence: Tolerating
Projects:
Nation Background:

Middle East and Africa

Nation Name: Sultanate of Egypt
Capital: Cairo
Ruler: /
Government: Sultanate
Centralization: Federation
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 20 Divisions (Normal)
Navy (Training):
Economy: Normal (+1)
Size (points required): Medium (2)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Tolerable/Barely Tolerable
Infrastructure: Tolerable
Education: Literate
Living Standards: Low
Culture: Strongly Cultured
Confidence: Resentful
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Sultanate of Sennar
Capital: Sennar
Ruler: /
Government: Sultanate
Centralization: Loose Federation
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 16 Divisions (Tolerable)
Navy (Training): 10 Squadrons (Semi-Rabble)
Economy: Normal (+1)
Size (points required): Medium (2)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Tolerable/Tolerable
Infrastructure: Barely Tolerable
Education: Tolerable
Living Standards: Low
Culture: Average
Confidence: Resentful
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Kingdom of Abyssinia
Capital: Addis Ababa
Ruler: /
Government: Monarchy
Centralization: Federation
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 18 Divisions (Normal)
Navy (Training):
Economy: Normal (+1)
Size (points required): Medium (2)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Tolerable/Barely Tolerable)
Infrastructure: Tolerable
Education: Tolerable
Living Standards: Low
Culture: Devoted
Confidence: Resentful
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Union of Hejaz
Capital: Jeddah
Ruler: /
Government: Federation
Centralization: Loose Federation
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 10 Divisions (Normal)
Navy (Training): 15 Squadrons (Normal)
Economy: Not Bad (+1)
Size (points required): Small (1)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Tolerable/Incompetent
Infrastructure: Pathetic
Education: Literate
Living Standards: Barely Tolerable
Culture: Patriotic
Confidence: Barely Tolerating
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Kurdistan
Capital: Diniwar
Ruler: /
Government: Emirate
Centralization: Federation
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 6 Divisions (Rabble)
Navy (Training):
Economy: Normal (1)
Size (points required): Small (1)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Barely Tolerable/ Barely Tolerable
Infrastructure: Barely Tolerable
Education: Illiterate
Living Standards: Barely Tolerable
Culture: Devoted
Confidence: Tolerating
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Zand Shahdom of Persia
Capital: Shiraz
Ruler: /
Government: Shahdom
Centralization: Federation
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 32 Divisions (Barely Tolerable)
Navy (Training): 20 Squadrons (Rabble)
Economy: Growing (+2)
Size (points required): Above Medium (3)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Competent/Tolerable
Infrastructure: Tolerable
Education: Illiterate
Living Standards: Low
Culture: Devoted
Confidence: Respecting
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Sultanate of Zanzibar
Capital: Zanzibar
Ruler: /
Government: Sultanate
Centralization: Loose Federation
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 8 Divisions (Normal)
Navy (Training): 30 Squadrons (Normal)
Economy: Growing (+2)
Size (points required): Medium (2)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Competant/Tolerable
Infrastructure: Tolerable
Education: Illiterate
Living Standards: Low
Culture: Average
Confidence: Tolerable
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Kingdom of Kanem-Bornu
Capital: Ngazargamu
Ruler: /
Government: Monarchy
Centralization: Loose Federation
Tech. Level: Pre-Enlightenment
Army (Training): 14 Divisions (rabble)
Navy (Training):
Economy: Not Bad (+1)
Size (points required): Small (1)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Competent/Stupid
Infrastructure: Dirt Paths
Education: Dumb
Living Standards: Slums
Culture: Average
Confidence: Admiring
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Sultanate of Timbuktu
Capital: Timbuktu
Ruler: /
Government: Sultanate
Centralization: Loose Federation
Tech. Level: Pre Enlightenment
Army (Training): 10 Divisions (Rabble)
Navy (Training):
Economy: Not Bad (+1)
Size (points required): Small (1)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Stupid/Competent
Infrastructure: Pathetic
Education: Dumb
Living Standards: Slums
Culture: Average
Confidence: Respectful
Projects:
Nation Background:


India

Nation Name: Sultanate of Lahore
Capital: Lahore
Ruler: /
Government: Sultanate
Centralization: Loose Federation
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 14 Divisions (Tolerable)
Navy (Training):
Economy: Good Enough (+2)
Size (points required): Medium (2)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Barely Tolerable/ Barely Tolerable
Infrastructure: Tolerable
Education: Literate
Living Standards: Low
Culture: Strongly Cultured
Confidence: Tolerating
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Sultanate of Delhi
Capital: Delhi
Ruler: /
Government: Sultanate
Centralization: Loose Federation
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 24 Divisions (Tolerable)
Navy (Training):
Economy: Growing (+2)
Size (points required): Medium (2)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Competent/Tolerable
Infrastructure: Tolerable
Education: Literate
Living Standards: Low
Culture: Strongly Cultured
Confidence: Tolerating
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Kingdom of Rajputana
Capital: Jaipur
Ruler: /
Government: Monarchy
Centralization: Confederation
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 14 Divisions (Normal)
Navy (Training):
Economy: Good Enough (+2)
Size (points required): Medium (2)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Barely Tolerable/Barely Tolerable
Infrastructure: Tolerable
Education: Literate
Living Standards: Low
Culture: Average
Confidence: Barely Tolerating
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Kingdom of Mysore
Capital: Mysore
Ruler: /
Government: Monarchy
Centralization: Tight Federation
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 18 Divisions (Normal)
Navy (Training):
Economy: Good Enough (+2)
Size (points required): Medium (2)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Tolerable/Barely Tolerable
Infrastructure: Tolerable
Education: Literate
Living Standards: Low
Culture: Average
Confidence: Barely Tolerating
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Kingdom of Nepal
Capital: Katmandu
Ruler: /
Government: Monarchy
Centralization: Tight Federation
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 4 Divisions (Tolerable)
Navy (Training):
Economy: Not Bad (+1)
Size (points required): Small (1)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Barely Tolerable/Barely Tolerable
Infrastructure: Pathetic
Education: Literate
Living Standards: Low
Culture: Average
Confidence: Tolerating
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Kingdom of Sikkim
Capital: Gantok
Ruler: /
Government: Monarchy
Centralization: Federation
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 2 Divisions (Tolerable)
Navy (Training):
Economy: Not Bad (+1)
Size (points required): Small (1)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Barely Tolerable/Barely Tolerable
Infrastructure: Pathetic
Education: Literate
Living Standards: Low
Culture: Average
Confidence: Barely Tolerating
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Kingdom of Bhutan
Capital: Thimphu
Ruler: /
Government: Monarchy
Centralization: Federation
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 1 Division (Tolerable)
Navy (Training):
Economy: Not Bad (+1)
Size (points required): Small (1)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Barely Tolerable/Barely Tolerable
Infrastructure: Pathetic
Education: Literate
Living Standards: Low
Culture: Average
Confidence: Tolerating
Projects:
Nation Background:

East and Southeast Asia

Nation Name: Tokugawa Shogunate of Japan
Capital: Kyoto
Ruler: /
Government: Feudal Military Dictatorship (Shogunate)
Centralization: Unitary
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 12 Divisions (Better)
Navy (Training): 6 Squadrons (Rabble)
Economy: Good Enough (+2)
Size (points required): Medium (2)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Competent/Barely Tolerable
Infrastructure: Tolerable
Education: Tolerable
Living Standards: Low
Culture: Devoted
Confidence: Tolerating
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Qing Empire of China
Capital: Beijing
Ruler: /
Government: Empire
Centralization: Federation
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 48 Divisions (Normal)
Navy (Training): 12 Squadrons (Rabble)
Economy: Rich (+3)
Size (points required): Large (4)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Barely Tolerable/Barely Tolerable
Infrastructure: Tolerable
Education: Tolerable
Living Standards: Low
Culture: Devoted
Confidence: Barely Tolerating
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Kingdom of Ayutthaya
Capital: Ayutthaya
Ruler: /
Government: Monarchy
Centralization: Loose Federation
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 14 Divisions (Normal)
Navy (Training): 16 Squadrons (Tolerable)
Economy: Growing (+2)
Size (points required): Medium (2)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Tolerable/Tolerable
Infrastructure: Pathetic
Education: Tolerable
Living Standards: Low
Culture: Average
Confidence: Admiring
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Konbaung Empire of Burma
Capital: Naypyidaw
Ruler: /
Government: Empire
Centralization: Tight Federation
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 19 Divisions (Tolerable)
Navy (Training): 6 Squadrons (Rabble)
Economy: Good Enough (+2)
Size (points required): Medium (2)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Tolerable/Barely Tolerable
Infrastructure: Pathetic
Education: Tolerable
Living Standards: Low
Culture: Devoted
Confidence: Tolerating
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Empire of Dai Viet
Capital: Hanoi
Ruler: /
Government: Empire
Centralization: Unitary
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 15 Divisions (Normal)
Navy (Training): 4 Squadrons (Tolerable)
Economy: Good Enough (+2)
Size (points required): Medium (2)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Tolerable/Tolerable
Infrastructure: Pathetic
Education: Tolerable
Living Standards: Low
Culture: Patriotic
Confidence: Respectful
Projects:
Nation Background:

Nation Name: Sultanate of Brunei
Capital: Bandar
Ruler: /
Government: Sultanate
Centralization: Tight Federation
Tech. Level: Early Enlightenment
Army (Training): 7 Divisions (Tolerable)
Navy (Training): 3 Squadrons (Rabble)
Economy: Not Bad (+1)
Size (points required): Small (1)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Tolerable/Barely Tolerable
Infrastructure: Pathetic
Education: Illiterate
Living Standards: Low
Culture: Devoted
Confidence: Tolerating
Projects:
Nation Background:
 
Nation Name: Sultanate of Delhi
Capital: Delhi
Ruler: /
Government: Sultanate
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The Sultanate of Delhi has been dead for a long time since the late 1500's

Nation Name: Mughal Empire
Ruler: Ahmad Shah Bahadur
Govt: Empire

Nation Name: Sultanate of Lahore
Capital: Lahore
Ruler: /

I don't know what you're referring to. Is it the purple state or blue state? The blue stat is the Sikh Confederacy while the purple state is Rajputana. Lahore is under Ventian rule.
 
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