PROBLEM: Running out of GP names

[Omegador]

I started a game of 22 civs on a Huge map, Epic length.
By the year 1700 AD, I received my next Great Writer, but this particular one could no longer create a great work - despite the fact that my city still has 3 empty writing slots.
When the GP's run out of names, they don't get reused - they turn into regular "Great ______" without a particular name.

I see this as a problem as it obsoletes Artists, Musicians, and Writers before the onset of the Modern Era... which is very much a shame.

Please look into this... At least make their names repeat (duplicate great works are better than useless great people)

Don't say "Use a mod", because this just breaks the creation of great works late-game on large maps. It needs to be fixed.

 

[God of Kings]

I started a game of 22 civs on a Huge map, Epic length.
By the year 1700 AD, I received my next Great Writer, but this particular one could no longer create a great work - despite the fact that my city still has 3 empty writing slots.
When the GP's run out of names, they don't get reused - they turn into regular "Great ______" without a particular name.

I see this as a problem as it obsoletes Artists, Musicians, and Writers before the onset of the Modern Era... which is very much a shame.

Please look into this... At least make their names repeat (duplicate great works are better than useless great people)

Firaxis should add more great writers, artists, and musicians. There are many of them who are unrepresented.

 

[Louis XXIV]

I think they have limited resources to plan for 22 Civ games. Saying "add more" has limited value. However, I agree that recycling is a fair idea.

 

[Epic Eric]

Firaxis should add more great writers, artists, and musicians. There are many of them who are unrepresented.

And this time with artists other than American or European ones.

 

[God of Kings]

And this time with artists other than American or European ones.

It would present a good opportunity to add more Canadian (since there are none currently in game), Latin American, African, Middle Eastern, Asian, and Oceanic writers, artists, and musicians.

 

[Gyra Solune]

At least for a temporary fix, yeah, they should make Great Works repeat. Maybe make them indicated separated from each other by putting on dramatic sequel titles.

Homer's Odyssey II - Electric Boogaloo

F. Scott Fitzgerald's The Even Greater Gatsby

Bach's Brandenburg Concerto - The Gates of War

Monet Paints Even More Lilies So Deal With It

 

[PhilBowles]

It's no longer as simple as adding extra names, since for artists they also have to add the artwork and for musicians the music. A bit of text for writers is easier, but it would be strange to just fix writers.

Apparently they're limited with musicians at least by their refusal to pay royalties, so many names from vanilla and Civ IV - such as Elvis Presley, Freddie Mercury, George Gershwin and the like - are unavailable, as are equally appropriate ones who are missing.

The system also presents an obvious limitation to including works by, say, African artists, let alone ones from Oceania or Latin America with no pre-colonial tradition of writing about art, since it's only very recently that there are known named artists from these territories who can be associated with specific works. And if modern works are ruled out by copyright issues, these areas will have to be left out. Europe, Asia and modern America really is all they have to choose from - possibly occasional works from elsewhere like Waltzing Matilda (public domain) by Great Musician Banjo Patterson (wasn't he a Great Artist in the past?), but given the system they've gone for the focus on European and Asian work is fully understandable.

It's sad, but could be worse - they run out of Great Prophet names before I get my first one, even on the smallest maps...

 

[God of Kings]

At least for a temporary fix, yeah, they should make Great Works repeat. Maybe make them indicated separated from each other by putting on dramatic sequel titles.

Homer's Odyssey II - Electric Boogaloo

F. Scott Fitzgerald's The Even Greater Gatsby

Bach's Brandenburg Concerto - The Gates of War

Monet Paints Even More Lilies So Deal With It

You forgot L. Frank Baum's The Wizard of Ozymandias, Mozart's Eine große Nachtmusik, and Michelangelo's Goliath.

 

[Omegador]

I've had many different chinese/japanese art and writing show up, so I don't think that's a major problem. At least if they made it repeat, it would fix this issue.

 

[Nicasen]

It's no longer as simple as adding extra names, since for artists they also have to add the artwork and for musicians the music. A bit of text for writers is easier, but it would be strange to just fix writers.

Apparently they're limited with musicians at least by their refusal to pay royalties, so many names from vanilla and Civ IV - such as Elvis Presley, Freddie Mercury, George Gershwin and the like - are unavailable, as are equally appropriate ones who are missing.

The system also presents an obvious limitation to including works by, say, African artists, let alone ones from Oceania or Latin America with no pre-colonial tradition of writing about art, since it's only very recently that there are known named artists from these territories who can be associated with specific works. And if modern works are ruled out by copyright issues, these areas will have to be left out. Europe, Asia and modern America really is all they have to choose from - possibly occasional works from elsewhere like Waltzing Matilda (public domain) by Great Musician Banjo Patterson (wasn't he a Great Artist in the past?), but given the system they've gone for the focus on European and Asian work is fully understandable.

It's sad, but could be worse - they run out of Great Prophet names before I get my first one, even on the smallest maps...

George Geshwin is still in BNW, his great work is I Got Rhythm.

 

[landlubber]

It's sad, but could be worse - they run out of Great Prophet names before I get my first one, even on the smallest maps...

You realize that there aren't any names for the Great Prophets, right? All of them are nameless.

 

[ptoss1]

You realize that there aren't any names for the Great Prophets, right? All of them are nameless.

Trolled.

 

[animalcross]

Well, a 43 civ game should have great people expire earlier. The .dll for YNAEMP came out today to do that.

 

[Callonia]

I was sad that when named GWAMs run out then they turned into regular great people and cannot create a great work anymore

It left me hosed.