Questions & Answers

[sk8er AG]

Persia
i followed the strat guide on wiki and could not be persia, india almost always had iron, which the guide said it wouldnt. this meant i spent a long time throwing immortals at dehli. then i captured the city and found it was the only one, india built another city in the desert which i conquered but it was size one and was destroyed

 

[Pieman]

Playing as the Turks, I had got the 1st VC and had conquered the required regions for the 2nd VC (Balkans, Meso, Black Sea) a couple of turns before 1700. Yet when 1700 came around, I missed the 2nd VC! What's with that?

 

[kbk]

Playing as the Turks, I had got the 1st VC and had conquered the required regions for the 2nd VC (Balkans, Meso, Black Sea) a couple of turns before 1700. Yet when 1700 came around, I missed the 2nd VC! What's with that?

Check the atlas to be sure that you actually have the regions. Also make sure you have the most up to date version because the Turkish UHV regions have changed in the past.

Atlas:
http://civ4.technologyresourcesgroup.com/

 

[sk8er AG]

on the atlas map for turkey, are filled in tiles counted as a city in the area?

 

[AnotherPacifist]

No, a city is a city, not a camp, tile, plantation or fort.
See the trouble we went to in our recent Turkey succession game to get our cities in the right place, even to the point of founding cities in seemingly "bad" places.

 

[sk8er AG]

srry, must have sounded wrong, i mean if i build a city in a tile that on the atlas shows filled in orange will that count as a city in a certian area?
ex. where istanbul is on the atlas map is a filled in with orang, does this mean something, like it wouldnt count as a city in the balkans or black sea?

 

[kairob]

Yeah a city built on a tile inside a rectangle counts as a city in that area, the orange shaded squares show what counts as Instanbul for the first UHV and IIRC where the boxes overlap cities in the overlapping region count as a city in both regions.

 

[Pieman]

Thanks, got it now.

One more question though: Apart from economy, how are the stability things measured?

 

[kbk]

Stability is measured by civic combinations, how well your expansion matches with your civ's history, your foreign relations, and the happiness and religion of your cities.

This is of course a gross simplification, and I recommend you at least skim the wiki article on stability to get a better idea.

http://wikirhye.wikidot.com/stability

 

[sk8er AG]

playing as turkey and many times when i ask for a vassal its says "sorrys its out of our hands", i thought this meant they already were a vassal. but i am in contact with almost all of the nations to be in postion to have vassals and none of them are in charge of those countries.

 

[kairob]

Yeah what does that message mean?

 

[Verily]

You can only have up to four vassals at any given time. That's the answer the AI gives when you already have four vassals.

Incidentally, there is a loophole that allows you to have more than four vassals, but the AI has to request to be your vassal in order for it to happen. If you have fewer than four vassals, very occasionally enough civs will ask to be your vassal in the interturn to give you more than four vassals, and you can accept them all. This happens most often when one of your vassals collapses late in the game when you have contact with basically everyone (assuming, obviously, that you are dominantly strong, say Germany going for the UHV or a very powerful Rome or Turkey or America).

 

[sk8er AG]

I only have one vassal though

 

[AlexanderGreat4]

I couldnt find this anywhere. I downloaded it once and it worked fine, but my computer broke and the memory was whiped, so i downloaded it again, but whenever i start a game, it says i am defeated. What do i do????

 

[blizzrd]

Yeah what does that message mean?

I have usually seen that message when you are friendly with the potential vassal civ's worst enemy. They basically won't become your vassal if you are friends (defensive pact or existing vassal agreement) with their worst enemy.

 

[AnotherPacifist]

Maybe you misplaced the mod? (Make sure it's in the mod folder for BTS, not the mod folder for Civ)

 

[blizzrd]

I couldnt find this anywhere. I downloaded it once and it worked fine, but my computer broke and the memory was whiped, so i downloaded it again, but whenever i start a game, it says i am defeated. What do i do????

Have you upgraded your version of BTS to 3.17. This comes with the latest version of RFC (1.181) so you shouldn't then need to upgrade the RFC mod.

 

[kairob]

I have usually seen that message when you are friendly with the potential vassal civ's worst enemy. They basically won't become your vassal if you are friends (defensive pact or existing vassal agreement) with their worst enemy.

You can only have up to four vassals at any given time. That's the answer the AI gives when you already have four vassals.

I got this as spain with the Aztec and Inca, I had Astonomy and they didnt have contact with any other civs.

 

[sk8er AG]

ok, will give it a try already have the netherlands as a vassal but there being a pain declaring war on inca which ruled them out and causing nations to dislike me i think. germany fell apart, am at war w/ russia and was at war w/ spain till they collapsed. problem is india appeard and told me it was out of there hands and there only frienly with me. still have a little more than a hundred years to go.

 

[blizzrd]

I got this as spain with the Aztec and Inca, I had Astonomy and they didnt have contact with any other civs.

I think the issue might be that you are both Inca and Aztec's worst enemy already, by default, even if you didn't attack them (yet)?