Recession watch: May

Good banking supervision includes sitting on the board at Goldman and being chair of the NY Federal Reserve, right?

Interesting how C, STT, etc are up AH, but WFC, BAC are flat.

Also, the stress tests have the more adverse scenario being what that paltry is laughable. Yet another farce from Timmah Geithner and Crew
 
think so? I'd like to hear some opinions on that.... the markets have skyrocketed in the last two months, do people think its sustainable? Bottom definitely been reached at 6500 (dow)? Is there going to be another big fall?

effects of unemployment have yet to be felt. I am tempted to hop back in to some assembly to retail level stocks, but then I think about the futures of capital equipment companies, and realize, whatever bounce back does happen in the economy, if any, will only start to take us back to 2000ish levels. I don't see any demand for new factory equipment (meaning real growth) materializing any time soon.
 
effects of unemployment have yet to be felt. I am tempted to hop back in to some assembly to retail level stocks, but then I think about the futures of capital equipment companies, and realize, whatever bounce back does happen in the economy, if any, will only start to take us back to 2000ish levels. I don't see any demand for new factory equipment (meaning real growth) materializing any time soon.

Also, the productivity gains from the BLS were due to the fact that hours worked decreased greater than output...

:lol: But we'll just keep juicing the stats.
 
From BLS

THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION: APRIL 2009

Nonfarm payroll employment continued to decline in April (-539,000), and
the unemployment rate rose from 8.5 to 8.9 percent, the Bureau of Labor Sta-
tistics of the U.S. Department of Labor reported today. Since the recession
began in December 2007, 5.7 million jobs have been lost. In April, job los-
ses were large and widespread across nearly all major private-sector indus-
tries. Overall, private-sector employment fell by 611,000.

Unemployment (Household Survey Data)

The number of unemployed persons increased by 563,000 to 13.7 million in
April, and the unemployment rate rose to 8.9 percent. Over the past 12 months,
the number of unemployed persons has risen by 6.0 million, and the unemployment
rate has grown by 3.9 percentage points. (See table A-1.)

Nonfarm payroll employment stands at 132.4 million. U3 is 8.87%; U6 is 15.8%.
 
I haven't seen a new order come into the Cairo office since October last year so I would say it is affecting Egypt at least a bit.
 
I haven't seen a new order come into the Cairo office since October last year so I would say it is affecting Egypt at least a bit.

where do you work?

also, i dont live in egypt.
 
where do you work?

also, i dont live in egypt.
Ireland but I cover random bits of Europe, the Middle East and Africa.

:blush: For some reason I thought you did - didn't you have Hosni Mubarak as an avatar a good while ago?
 
From BLS



Nonfarm payroll employment stands at 132.4 million. U3 is 8.87%; U6 is 15.8%.

I'm waiting for the Michigan numbers, to see if my unemployment claim helped put us over 13.5% (U3 of course, I bet our U6 is off the charts).

edit- Latest number was 12.6%, so 13.5% is a stretch. I'm just curious to see where it ends up for April now that I am counted in that month's statistics. Looking forward, June and July are going to be unreal bad for my state, due to obvious events that are quite public by now.
 
Ireland but I cover random bits of Europe, the Middle East and Africa.

:blush: For some reason I thought you did - didn't you have Hosni Mubarak as an avatar a good while ago?

im from egypt, i dont live there. im going back in the summer tho. and yes i did have a hosni mubarak avatar. :)
 
From reuters

BEIJING (Reuters) - The United States risks a Japan-style lost decade of growth if it does not take aggressive action to stimulate its economy and clean up its banking system, Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman said on Monday.

"We're doing half-measures that help the economy limp along without fully recovering, and we're having measures that help the banks survive without really thriving," Krugman said.

"We're doing what the Japanese did in the nineties," he told a small group of reporters during a visit to Beijing.

He said it was not clear that China would suffer sub-par growth as a consequence of the fallout of the present crisis.

"I'm mostly worried that the U.S. and the euro zone will have Japanese-type lost decades," he said.

Krugman said he expected little or no employment growth this year or next in the United States, where the jobless rate in April hit a 25-year high of 8.9 percent.

"A second stimulus is becoming clearly urgent. They need a very, very strong stimulus," said Krugman, a Princeton University professor and a New York Times columnist.

He said stress tests carried out on 19 leading U.S. banks had bought time for the administration of Barack Obama, but they had not answered the key question of whether the banks have enough capital to fulfill their key role in the economy.

"It's clear the administration won't take radical action to strengthen the banks any time soon," he said. To have done so would have meant temporarily nationalizing Citigroup and, perhaps, Bank of America, he said.

Krugman gave credit to China for vigorously implementing its own economic stimulus plan but said he had detected no commitment by Beijing to switch to a domestic demand-driven growth model that would reduce its excess savings.

"It's very hard to see how the world has a full recovery if China continues to run current account surpluses of 10 percent of GDP," he said.

If China's big external surpluses persist alongside high U.S. unemployment and low European growth, political friction will ensue. "Something will have to give, and it won't be pretty."

Krugman said China should not be in a rush to make the yuan, or renminbi (RMB), fully convertible or to liberalize its capital account; countries at a similar stage of development that have scrapped capital controls have run into trouble, he noted.

"I'm not sure we're talking about a full-floating RMB," Krugman said. "But an appreciation of the RMB, though it's not what China wants to hear right now, is going to be necessary."

Interetsing article. why would ther US and EU be more vulnerable to this than China?
 
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This happens when you have an incompetent chancellor.
 
From reuters

Of course, all the bailout phonies can do is continue to advocate doubling down on their risky bet.... as predicted.

double down, double down, double down, until it all completely collapses... then blame Obama for not doubling down enough.
 
From OMB:

Obama's final Fiscal 2010 Budget

Deficits are projected to be $90 billion higher in 2009 and 2010 than previously estimated. The budget still assumes that the carbon cap-and-trade program will use auctioned credits rather than credit giveaways, something that the Administration has already folded on for at least 15% of the credits. The Health Reserve Fund also assumes that the tax benefits of charitable donations will be capped, something that the Administration folded on in February. So additional deficits can be assumed to be higher than just $90 billion; if he continues to assume that charitable deductions will be capped (they will not), we can expect an additional $250bn shortfall over the next 10 years.

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From CBO:

The CBO's Monthly Budget Review estimates a $800bn deficit for the first seven months of fiscal year 2009. This estimate values financial rescues on net present value terms, not outlays terms, so the on-the-record deficit is still higher. The Treasury will issue its own statement Tuesday.

This week in indicators:
Retail Sales and Business Inventories (Wed)
CPI, NY regional report, Real Earnings, and Capacity Utilization (Fri)
 
The Baltic drama continues to unfold.
Latvian GDP 2008 -4.6 %
Latvian GDP Q4/2008 y-o-y -10.3 %
Latvian GDP Q1/2009 y-o-y -18 %

The downturn there still seems to accelerate.
 
The Baltic drama continues to unfold.
Latvian GDP 2008 -4.6 %
Latvian GDP Q4/2008 y-o-y -10.3 %
Latvian GDP Q1/2009 y-o-y -18 %

The downturn there still seems to accelerate.

When will this chicken come home to roost in the west?
 
the rescission isnt real. i have not felt its effect, nor has anyone else i know been affected by the recession

Fantastic way to live life. If you can't see the problem it isn't there. :goodjob:
 
Australia's federal budget for the financial year starting mid-year has been released.

Deficit will be the highest it has ever been $58 billion, and debt will rise to roughly $220 billion over the next few years.
 
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