Replay #3 Coming closer Wastin :D

[civvver]

where I said he plays HC because of financial? i said since he sticks with HC who is accidentely financial he will use cottages... not sure why you reverse the logic of mine sentence.

I didn't say you did. I was making the point in a very round about way that financial is kinda irrelevant and hammer cities are better. In my view anyway. It was admittedly not a very well thought out posting by me.

A hammer economy with specialized cities isn't *that* complicated. I think a lot of players get hung up on trying to fit their economic strategy into a box like cottage economy, hammer economy, specialist economy, even heard people mention food economies. Really you need to look at each individual city and then what your empire needs. Like in the screenshot seraiel just posted washington could go all hammers with a granary + forge + barracks and be a HE epic. Or it could build wealth. Or spam settlers. Hammer cities are flexible.

Compared that to a city with some food on rivers. You could make it a cottage city and convert it to a hammer city later with watermills. Up to you, depending on how developed your cottages are by then and if you need more unit production or not.

 

[Keilah]

Moar!

 

[civvver]

so is the game finished?

 

[Seraiel]

This ones not over, just need a break from all the writing and have to play that map I posted the Screenshots from in my last post, it's just to strong 4 Civs down already and I'm just in War with Willem + Darius to get some Vassals, 30 cities 300 BC. Sushi will be a little late though I think, because nobody wanted to trade with me in that round, build Shwedagon Paya and went free Religion because I sit between 2 blocks, but that was the poorest choice I ever made . All pleased, noone friendly, so nearly no trades, also no peace Vassals, but again: The map is OP, I think I still have a chance to beat my score

 

[WastinTime]

I don't want to steal your thunder, but all this talk about score has got me thinking about another attempt, aiming for 4 million.

 

[Seraiel]

Go for it I only want to get good at playing Civ, you help me a lot on that way and you play it for a much longer time then I do. It's normal when the Master beats the pupil, but don't stop playing if I ever make it happen the other way round

 

[Keilah]

we should have a little competition for high score, similar to HoF except we all play the exact same map, no events or huts, and (IMO) standard size/normal speed, just so it doesn't take 200 hours per game =]

That'd be fun, I'd be down for it even though I have no experience pimping score.

 

[Seraiel]

I have 0 experience with playing standart / normal, and usually I don't go for what we in germany call a "Schwanzvergleich" (eng. Penis-comparison) , but maybe, I'd join in just for the fun and simply to get used to normal settings Anyhow, I guess I just don't have the time and there would have to be some garantee that nobody cheated (i. e. reloading, etc.) and I guess the last point will be especially difficult. If you can get Methos or Denniz to check those games and no spoilers before all have finished, I'd join in.

 

[Keilah]

well how does HoF work to ensure no reloads? Could we use that (but hopefully modified to allow a pre-selected map and no huts/events)?

 

[Seraiel]

well how does HoF work to ensure no reloads? Could we use that (but hopefully modified to allow a pre-selected map and no huts/events)?

The games use BUFFY as a mod which has lots of features we aren't allowed to know To answer your question, you actually have to go to bed with Superslug iirc Ask Methos or Denniz, I'm sure they're glad to help.

 

[Kaosprophet]

I have 0 experience with playing standart / normal, and usually I don't go for what we in germany call a "Schwanzvergleich" (eng. Penis-comparison) ,

But... isn't that the whole point of the HoF?

 

[Mikehendi]

But... isn't that the whole point of the HoF?

Well... in that case most HOF players are really helpfull in trying to lengthen each others penisses.

 

[Kaosprophet]

Well... in that case most HOF players are really helpfull in trying to lengthen each others penisses.

What you boys do in the locker room is your business...

...but if I continue any further, I'll likely get accused of trolling. Carry on.

 

[WastinTime]

we should have a little competition for high score, similar to HoF except we all play the exact same map, no events or huts, and (IMO) standard size/normal speed, just so it doesn't take 200 hours per game =]

That'd be fun, I'd be down for it even though I have no experience pimping score.

It's good idea. It's just a casual competition for fun and to improve score strategy, so I would not care if people wanted to reload. In fact, you learn a lot from reloading and trying different things in the same situation. (you just can't submit the game to the HoF).

The problem with your suggestion is normal speed. You won't learn anything relevant to big scores because it is so different than marathon. There would be almost no way to get the early rush cities on deity. You would not be able to Oracle currency, etc.

Keep an eye out for a Score gauntlet. Those come around every now and then.

 

[WastinTime]

What do you think of this start location?

 

[ShengWuLien]

we should have a little competition for high score, similar to HoF except we all play the exact same map, no events or huts, and (IMO) standard size/normal speed, just so it doesn't take 200 hours per game =]

That'd be fun, I'd be down for it even though I have no experience pimping score.

Please do this. I'd be interested to see how HoF players handle the sort of maps most of us play.

 

[playshogi]

The highest scoring standard, normal, deity is about 950,000. So, being the first to 1 million would be a reasonably attractive achievement.

 

[Keilah]

It's good idea. It's just a casual competition for fun and to improve score strategy, so I would not care if people wanted to reload. In fact, you learn a lot from reloading and trying different things in the same situation. (you just can't submit the game to the HoF).

Semi-agree. It would be annoying to have one decide to reload over and over until he wins 5 combats in a row at 20% odds, though.

The problem with your suggestion is normal speed. You won't learn anything relevant to big scores because it is so different than marathon. There would be almost no way to get the early rush cities on deity. You would not be able to Oracle currency, etc.

The point wouldn't be to get a super-high score, the point would be to get a higher score than the other people in the competition =]

Keep an eye out for a Score gauntlet. Those come around every now and then.

What's that?

I'll try to contact the people Seraiel mentioned and see if I can make this happen within a few days.

 

[civvver]

Keilah you can't reload a bunch of times to get combat wins without turning on new random seed on reload. Otherwise you have to do something else that will eat the random seed and give you a new one. Ending a turn will work since mining anything has a small chance to reveal gems to it access the random seed, but if you ended turns just to try to win 20% combat situations you'd waste a lot of turns and it would probably be more detrimental.

 

[WastinTime]

Gauntlets are competitions that the HoF runs continuously. There have been hundreds of them. There are always 2 different ones going (see the HoF page for details). These always have just one win condition that everyone competes for. Sometimes that win condition is Score, but it is a bit more rare than others.